Mitakuye Oyasin,
Osiyo. Very cool posts, responses and group, thanx! I hope you and yours are well and will continue to be. I've been an advocate/activist on all issues, et al, for 31 years of my 46; please, do what you can for humanity. Dylan Thomas' poem line comes to mind, "...and death (murder) shall have no dominion..."; as others might say, "we, the people...", can make it so! Jim and Greg, before I get into responding to you, here's some observations about the current events and there sad relation to current politics; to the detriment of peace. The dempublicans recent shows of how they're supposedly "really" struggling with the GOP, and supposedly "being the answer to what ails us", like the show of supposedly taking the GOP to task for their Mark Foley, 'Pagegate'; while, actually, they're busy trying to aid the GOP in their attempts at cover-up, that while attempting to project that they're going to get to the bottom of it. It's easy to pick up the signs, Hastert says he didn't know until "last Friday", then he said, "maybe his office got some info., and maybe he did too, yet, in a matter of fact way, 4 months ago", yet, it's common knowledge that the info. about Foley's predatory abuse of boys, in point, the House male Pages, was brought to Hastert's office and him several times; under oath, people have testified he knew a year ago, 4 years ago; that's only so far. So, Hastert, sensing people are smelling his b.s. for what it is, decides to fabricate he's starting a legal investigation of the highest order; former FBI head, Freeh- yet, it's not a criminal or legal investigation, it's just to tweak the Page program, though, really, to legitimize their cover-up. The dempublicans aren't really suggesting better, there should be a full criminal investigation of Foley, as, it is obvious to all, especially any kind of an investigator, that, if Foley was predatorily abusing Pages, while he's passing legislation in the Well of the Congress, as has been widely reported, he's probably doing much worse to kids he comes in contact with regularly, etc.. All pages should be interviewed by the authorities, with full anonymity, etc., so, that the truth comes out; against the will of the collaborating dempublicans, and the remocrats- although, the dempublicans will play it up in the media because of the timing, and because a good cover-up necessitates a good show (for e.g., the 9-11 Commission).
People seem to not be able to figure out why the GOP, Rumsfeld, and empress georgie, are making believe "they are open to changing strategies in Iraq", right before it comes out that they had to change their prognosis of the war in Iraq, now, they say they'll have to be there, at least, 4 more years- which, probably, means 10 years, given remocrats pathological lying. "Why didn't they just stick to the "stay the course" bs they've been serving usa citizens forever"?, is the question all around, well, the answer is they wanted to wait until the last political moment to release that prognosis, and since the prognosis suggests that they're totally messing up the war efforts, and their strategies are not only failing, but, actually, will, most likely, only fail in the future. So, they are trying to manufacture the perception in the polity that they're not extremists militarists fanatics, hell bent on their "course", like the Administration was in that other unnecessary war in Vietnam; before the fall of the usa in the Vietnam war. Ergo, the supposed flexibility on the GOP's part as of late, at least, allows for the possibility that they will change something in order to allow for the possibility that the usa won't lose the war; in the minds of the voters, they hope. Meanwhile, what's the facts: almost everybody in the top echelons of the military actually thinks Rumsfeld's execution of the war has determined a fiasco, and he should be dismissed; the magnitude of the loss being the only unknown quotient. As well, the British head of their military in Iraq says, "the British should leave soon, as they're making things worse, tactically, in Iraq". A top university study shows that 660,000 Iraqis have died since the beginning of the war, 10 times the official usa calculation of the number; yet, I suggest it more like going on a million- up from 100 a day to almost 200 a day now. The GOP has also, by now, figured out that the dividing up of Iraq into 3 parts, they thinking they could have bases in a Kurdish North, won't work, as the Sunni, nor, Shia parts would allow that- not to forget the fact that the integration of the 3 major groups in most major cities is thorough, so, that dividing up would be impossible. It is still tragically sad that most usa people in the know, even progressive activists, supposed feminists, etc., fabricate that their ethnocentric, religiously bigoted classist imperialism, they call "exporting freedom", which is not much better than the British saying they were "civilizing Africans" by making them slaves, etc., while the usa military machine continues to commit genocide in Iraq; with your tax dollars. Not to be outdone, empress georgie, the proliforater-in-chief, continues to fabricate his bloated, bold words and policies towards countries he has told that he will destroy their gov'ts, are going to stop those countries from exercising their rights to produce energy and defend themselves; what a feeble joke he's making usa foreign policy into- as well as our standing as a nation among nations. So, while empress georgie is selling nukes out the back of Airforce One, he tells everyone he has told he will destroy that they can't have nuclear energy, etc., hilarious. Pre-midterm Congressional election supposedly tough (patriarchal) rhetoric, plain and simple.
Yet, some things can't even be spun, so, regardless of the remocrats double to quadruplespeak, pathological lying, revisionist accounts of history, continual non-disclosure, etc., "we,...", will, hopefully, see the truths abounding before our very eyes, and vote for the vote by voting; as well as vote with our conscious and hopes, and not our fears, etc.. Congressional midterm elections, in which third parties should be picking up ground on the dempublicans, specifically because of the dempublicans being collaborators with the criminally insane and treasonous remocrats, in the war crimes and genocide in Iraq, are less than a month away, that being said, there has been, and hopefully will be more, great strides in our Struggle with AIDS, etc.- though, false positivism is just that. So, that brings us to the remocrats desires to engineer a war with Iran. We must keep in mind that, since, as most usa citizens don't know, they had no intention on winning either the war in Afghanistan or Iraq, just starting them, that may not be too big a stumbling block for the remocrat global engineers; although, we hope and struggle towards the fact that it is. Some might ask why they didn't even plan a strategy that would even have a possibility of winning either war, especially since there was no reason to rush into a war with Afghanistan (almost no technological warfare capability), or mitigate that war's potential ability to be won by rushing into the next war with Iraq (mitigated technological warfare capability by earlier usa war with it, and the sanctions, UN inspections, etc.)?
It's an aspect of the Vietnam syndrome, the remocrat conspiracy knows that if they lose a major war, they won't be able to get the usa populace to be willing to allow another major war for awhile, yet, if they start a war, and can keep the people from knowing they're losing it, they can start another, as they did in Iraq, without winning the first, for they haven't lost the first, yet. As well, if they get the third started (third ball in the air), as they have been trying to do with Iran for years, for, they haven't lost the first 2 yet, they can, regardless of whether they have a plan to win it, have adequately prepared for it, or not, etc., because the populace of the usa is so "Snowed" over that they won't know what the remocrat scam is that is being played on them, and the fact that they not only don't have to allow it, but, actually, have a responsibility to stop it. So, the remocrat conspiracy just has to manufacture enough evidence, to manufacture enough perceptions in enough people, to manufacture enough consent to start it's third failed war, to get the third ball in the air, so that the realization of the supposed necessity for "unending war" will, possibly, be forced by the amount of atrocities the us military has been instructed to do, and the losses emboldening all the supposed terrorists and supposed rogues states these 3 wars have realized. That way, the remocrat conspiracy will dictate a state of "unending war", manufacturing the centralization of astronomically increased corporate welfare to all, predominantly, remocratic industrial complexes: military, defense, intelligence, homeland security, police and prison, as well as the astronomically increased use of oil, and our astronomically increased dependence on fossil fuels, etc.. To say they deem their plan 'perfect' would be an understatement, as they deem there is little possibility of the usa avoiding it, because of the supposedly "successful" engineering of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars starts; and the astronomical increase in the manufacturing of supposed terrorists, by the usa.
Yet, midterm election remocratic winning potential has been mitigated by these, and many other, truths coming out more prominently, the remocratic conspiracy needed more 'fixes', or 'locks' to determine the usa populace would be so scared that they would continue to vote remocratic. Ergo, the Lebanese war by Israel, trying to solidify the remocratic projection that an "unending religious war" with Islam is an inevitability, also, the Pope's inciting Islamists by reading a 1400's perception by a Roman Catholic leader of that time, erroneously and stereotypically labeling Islam, trying to get Islamists to over react. Yet, those 2 global acts haven't swayed polls enough in the remocrats favor, in their opinion, so, the remocrats came up with the tried and true plan of terrorizing the usa populace by instigating, ordering, or otherwise directing the last weeks 3 separate incidences of premeditated mass-murderings of schoolchildren, in their schools; as they did with the Columbine shootings, etc.. For, as I informed everyone going on a decade ago, the Columbine shooters were kids who were trained and motivated by the remocratic led psychic terrorism, "the suck", and there is clear evidence that some of these current shooters were also directed, etc., by the same, the remocrats terrorizing the usa population into swinging conservative, if not voting remocratic, then dempublican; at least not third party, in their hopes, in the coming midterm Congressional elections, and next years imperial election. As well empress georgies' speechifying the populace effects is waning, that attempt at soft brainwashing of the people is also losing its desired effects. The latest shooter, 32 year old Mr. Roberts, wife, supposedly suggests that "he did it due to a 20 year old grudge", b.s., how could he have a 20 year old grudge against little Amish girls; that's absurd. Not to mention the fact that these 3 shooting acts in the last week have redirected the mass-media away from the other stories that are prominent in the news, on Iraq's civil war heightening, Afghanistan settling into its actuality of being an emerging narco-state, more evidence that the remocrat conspiracies elite's not preventing the 9-11 attacks on purpose, another remocratic national leader, Foley, being a pedophile coming to light, etc..
There is enumerable pieces of evidence to that effect, yet, I'll just talk about one, for now. Mark Foley's life should be investigated, not because anyone is suggesting homophobia should be supported, rather, because his behavior, as part of a Congressional pedocide program, is an aspect, though, a small one, of the war against middle to poor class males, globally; executed especially thoroughly in Western societies, like the usa, etc.. How is it so successful here, because all the conspiracies concur on executing the war; surely, for their own reasons- yet, they all come down to 2, uber avarice and greed, just like the remocrats. If they thought it didn't work they wouldn't do it, but, they think it does, so, for e.g., supposed feminists, who've embraced the devolution, war on men, instead of uplifting them, leaving feminisms evolutionary roots far behind. That is one of the main reasons why supposed feminists vote dempublican, instead of third party; even though, the collaborating dempublicans are a necessary 'fix', 'lock' for the remocrats to keep power- classistly, patriarchally, imperialistically, etc.. This is another reason why we're seeing a closing of the guard, a circling of the wagons in Congress, to make sure the Pagegate investigations will actually be not much more than a bipartisan cover-up.
One might ask why do remocrats get voters from that demographic more than dempublicans, especially since that war is predominantly being waged by remocrats (conservative religions, the usa militaries, the Congresses pedocide programs, etc.)? It's only due to ignorance of the facts, if those remocratic males knew that their gov't, military, led by the remocratic party were premeditatedly mass-murdering them from infancy (infantcide, where they 'suck' infants to death in the crib and have their Dr. Mengeles call it 'crib death', etc.) on, in order to supposedly control them, and dictate they become fascists, for e.g., "honored" dead soldiers, making astronomically increased corporate welfare and profits to remocrat industrial complexes like the arms industry possible, then they might not give into the sociological pressure they face to become their bully, become those who have abused them, give into the nihlistic narcissistic sociological programming of the corporate structure's convolutions direction of devolution; and join the nazi remocrats. If they knew the party they vote for, premeditatedly raped, or had others rape their sisters, destroyed their brothers testicles when they were infants, etc., I don't think they would; or, at least, not as many would. How many would join the nazi army if they knew the truth that they would be ordered to continually premeditatedly mass-murder Iraqi women and children, in order to, supposedly, "make them free"? I don't think as many would.
As well, it's well known that this situation with Mr. Foley was investigated and covered up over a year ago, and these same remocratic leaders who are feinting outrage at Foley, and ignorance of the situation, participated in that same cover-up for years. Let them, your representatives and the people know that Mr. Hastert, and all remocrats involved in the cover-up, should resign; and there should be a complete and exhaustive independent investigation, as the Congress can't be allowed to investigate itself- for, we know, if they're allowed to, they'll just make their cover-up more foolproof. The remocratic program of "leaving no child's behind alone" program, as opposed to what they call it, "the leave no child behind" program, must be changed, for many reasons. Don't forget, a high ranking remocratic leader of Homeland Security was arrested only months ago for pedophiling, as well; it has to stop! The Pages truth should be out, and we should all look at it squarely, and go from there; don't allow the bipartisan cover-up. Four remocratic Congressional leaders have been convicted, two are in rehab, vote the bums out. Vote your conscience, not your fears.
Jim Bryant, my replies follow your atrocious attempt at a tiff :)
JB: ""off the wall" strange. You think there is a hideous conspiracy out there to make you take your meds? Mind control? Hmmm... Has ET ever abducted you and anal-probed you? ... do you call Jesus a "racist"? My dear Sir, go to your nearest fundie christian home and watch the children playing "Left Behind: The Game" on their playstation. You'll love how they go door to door in American cities massacreing men, women, and children. I guess you would call this good family entertainment? I call it training the children to do such things. Do you know what the fuck you are talking about? I know what the fuck I'm talking about. ...state that attitudes like yours are why schizophrenics and manics usually have to have supervised medications ordered by a judge. All too often they go off their meds."
Since you purposely didn't answer 99 % of my legitimate critique of your absurdist extreme slander of me, and 90 % of the world's population, I can only conclude you're doing this as an attack of me and, since part of that attack is to waste my time, to stop me from doing advocacy for peace, I must only be concise.
JB: ""off the wall" strange." Well, this is a lessening of your insult level against me, yet, still, it, obviously communicates your attempts to aggravate and denigrate me; only non-peaceful people do either.
JB: "You think there is a hideous conspiracy out there to make you take your meds?"
Since you purposely ignored my statements that I've never taken psychotropic medications, never been diagnosed with any mental illness, and my profession is mental health counseling supervision, one can only conclude this, again, is your attempt at denigrating me with your bigotry, also well, you think it brings legitimacy to your infantile arguments by calling me "mentally ill and not taking ordered medications", and 'magically' deligitimizes mine, a fascist perspective and projections; again, there's no peace about you at all- you're more like the extremist remocrats you pretend to rail against.
JB: "Mind control? Hmmm... Has ET ever abducted you and anal-probed you? "
Again, you prove that you're a supposed socialist only, and, in fact, as a totalitarian, your obvious fascism has more in common with the remocrats you fabricate you are against- while you conspire with them.
JB: "... do you call Jesus a "racist"? "
Your comparing yourself to Jesus communicates your grandiosity, again, quite well.
JB: "My dear Sir, go to your nearest fundie christian home and watch the children playing "Left Behind: The Game" on their playstation. You'll love how they go door to door in American cities massacreing men, women, and children. I guess you would call this good family entertainment? I call it training the children to do such things."
You start with false politeness, then you insult me by fabricating I support mass-genocide, which I don't, when you advocated for the same in your last reply me; again, fake politeness to cover an ultimate insult- no peace at all in you.
JB: "Do you know what the fuck you are talking about? I know what the fuck I'm talking about."
Ahh, abusive and crude language, you use to fabricate you're supposedly real and down to earth, as well as to impress the weak minded with your fascism; I don't stoop to such gimmicks to win points, as I don't want to win points- again, no peace about you at all.
JB: "...state that attitudes like yours are why schizophrenics and manics usually have to have supervised medications ordered by a judge. All too often they go off their meds."
Again, you use your bigoted and fascist attack against the mentally disadvantaged, to attempt to attack me, by your projecting that, supposedly, I'm mentally disadvantaged because you disagree with my perspectives; again, a combination of totalitarian and remocrat, yet, fascism, plain and simple- no peace, even in your vicinity, obviously.
Greg Bryant, you said: "Jim and James, these sound like personal attacks. Can we get back to peace & politics? If we don't like each other's style, can't we just ignore it? Of course, I guess I can just ignore this argument, but it just sounds nasty. -Greg"
Any relation to Jim? I've not "attacked Jim personally", I've critiqued his attacks of me and 90 % of the world's population, accurately. As well, I never wrote something about Jim that could be described as "nasty". As I mentioned about Jim, did you even read my original post?
Still, "la machine", the corporate structure, and their ever increasing and increasingly interlocking systems of premeditated mass-destruction-murdering programs are all just linx in the chains on humanity, attempting to stop us from breaking free, we can break the chain of murder, the chain of death; by abolishing the over use of fossil fuels and being most alive! That's also why I think allowing evolution as a common language, as it's the thread that links every, in the fabric of life, is a good place to start. For, the corporate structure has made a trap of this world, yet, all life is in it, so "we..." can't underestimate our responsibility; that generations past have heaped on our heads and shoulders by not acting on theirs, then. Dylan Thomas' poem's line comes to mind :) "...and death (murder) shall have no dominion...", as others might say, "we, the people..." can make it so! Will you? By the by, "In Germany they [the Nazis] came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up. - Pastor Martin Niemoeller, 1946", so the story goes, though, you might know that they actually came first for the mentally ill, elderly, handicapped, diffabled, foreigners, poor (Gypsies, Roma, et al); homeless, like the republicans are doing now. Defend yourself by defending them, one for all, all for one! Remember the lessons of WWII, if you're not taking bullets, you're making them, etc.; I'm bleeding every moment, are you? What do you think? From the heart in the heart of the heartland. Some groups I moderate:
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"Painting is poetry which is seen and not heard, and poetry is a painting which is heard but not seen." ~ Leonardo da Vinci Enjoy an autumnal eve' as you can. Copy, share, as you will. Lest "we" forget, if you don't exercise responsibility, its Siamese twin sister, freedom, will wither like a muscle, as well. Sadly, now, it first needs to be exorcized, before its exercised. Viva la evolution!
Matutinally Yours, james m nordlund reality (aja) :)
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