----- Original Message -----

From: Jusuf Achmad

To: [email protected]

Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 9:15 AM

Subject: Re: [sufism_sufis] Exclusive vs Inclusive Groups AND Teachers

 

Salaam to T_ and friends,

 

Thank you for your positive response.  I will clear up my understanding a bit.  When we can see "The Immortal Teacher", we see all the mortals as teachers "withersoever we turn, there is the face of God" paraphrasing Al-Quran 2:115.  Just like a falling apple from an apple tree were teachers to Newton.  We are actually bombarded by tons of messages from God, but to process the information to be meaningful is the great jihad.  It is easier to love all when we can see all as teachers.  This is the path of man, the path of Unity / Oneness / Love.

 

On the other path, the Separation path, when we can see "The Immortal Teacher", we disregard (openly for Iblis path or hiddenly for Jinn path) all the mortals, because we feel that we are the only one have a special relation with God / Power.

 

I have experienced both paths.  Just like an H-bomb or an A-bomb, a union or a separation creates energy / power / love, a natural fenomena.  All paths will eventually lead to the One in total surrender.   

 

May we always be in peace,

 

Jusuf Achmad.

----- Original Message -----

From: T_

To: [email protected]

Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:22 AM

Subject: [sufism_sufis] Exclusive vs Inclusive Groups AND Teachers

 

Salaam jusuf,

I am in the habit of praying to find a mortal teacher...but funny things happen along the way.

 

last night I dreamt of a very elderly man in a nice kaffiyeh, he was rather tall, though bent a little due to age. he had piercing eyes and I could not determine their color..even when he came right up within inches of MY face!

his skin had that translucent and radiant shine of advanced age on it..we have all seen this on our elders. I was confused..and thought he was my deceased father in law, whom i have never met....or my husband as an old man?? who else would get SO close?

i touched his face and told him-Oh you have shaved your nice beard..his face was so soft and smooth, in spite of his age.

he had a light beige cardigan sweater on and slacks and he walked away quickly,and beckoned me to follow him with his hand...he was rushing me.

he kept looking back for me to come along. i followed him, but I was lagging behind.

 

I got scared thinking if this is my father in law and I have to go with him..i am going to die!

Well, aren't we ALL going to die?.how silly.

 

but IF this was a future teacher...I had better pay attention!

 

BUT what IF that WAS God..trying to get in my face and MAKE me follow ??

 what did i DO??

I hesitated!!!

 

I think that's what happens to many of us. God is right there..right HERE and still we hesitate, because we cannot process the information, we filter it to try to make it FIT.

just my 2 cents.

T_

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