From: From: Helen Silvey [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 9:00 AM
To: Haines
Subject: Re: BattaileFrom: I've looked until I had to go on to something else, but I have another avenue
just opened up, I'll give it a try and let you know what happens. The is the
only ref. I have:From: !Va. Mag. of Hist. & Biog. Vol. 33, Jul or Jun 1925, p. 35. Va. Council
Journal: John Battaile was one of the first justices sof Caroline in 1728. He
was son of Col. John Battaile, of Rappahannock and Essex Counties who was a
captain of rangers in service against the Indians n 1692 and a burgess for
Essex in the same year. He married Elizabeth, daughter of Col. Lawrence Smith
of Gloucester, and dying in 1708, left (with other issue) John Battaile of
the text. See this Magazine, III, 1, 2; and IX, 213, where the epitaph of
John Battaile, the younger, is given.On 10/5/99 9:29 PM, "Haines" wrote:From: This is the ref. I have for his son John "The Ranger":
!"Torrence and Allied Families" by Robert M. Torrence, The Wickersham Press,
Philadelphia 1938, p. 305 "Captain of Rangers against the Indians, in 1692;
Burgess, 1692-16996; Colonel of Militia, at the time of his death; will dated
Jan. 24, 1707-8; . . ."
!The Colonial Gen. Vol. VIII, #3
!LDS AF, March, 1994, AFN: 9JZN-05
!Wm. & Mary Quarterly, v. 1, 2nd ser, p. 151: "Nicholas Battaile, b. 1701,
son of Col. John Battaile, Sr. (d. [illeg.] and Elizabeth, dau. of Maj.
Lawrence Smith, and sister of Sarah Smith, the wife of the first John
Taliaferro."
!Va. Hist. Mag., v. 23, 1915, p. 88 - makes ref. to VA Mag., v. 3, p. 1
!Wm. & Mary Quarterly, v. 9, ser. 1 - "...of St. Mary's Parish, Essex
Co...Will ...dated 10 Jan., 1708, pr. 10 Feb., 1709, names wife Elizabeth,
sons John, Lawrence, Hay and Nicholas Battaile; ...residue to be equally
divided between his wife and son John...mentions also "Brother Charles
Taliaferro: and Mr. William Thornton"
!Thomas Hill to Laquita Armstrong on Fido 7/29/94
!Ben Franklin on Fido 8/15/94
!Va. Magazine of History & Biography, Vol. 41, Apr., Jul., Oct., 1933:
...Domesday Book...Vol. One and Two..."Bataile-hall, the Manor house...took
its name from the ancient family of Batailes who enjoyed it as early as the
reign of King Henry II...Richard Battaile held two fees in 1165; his son,
Will. de Bataile gave and confirmed all the Tythes of his lordship of
Stapleford to the Priory of the Holy Trinity in London...grant he made by
laying down a gold ring on the alter of the said church of the Holy Trinity.
He calls it his gift, though he owns the same was granted by Harvey Battaile,
his great-grandfather...As late as 1853...in the church of Clare, County
Suffolk, Eng., "there was to be seen a stained-glass window in which were the
Arm of Battayle...The Rev. A. H. Hord, directly desc. from Lawrence4 Battaile
of "Prospect Hill"...points out that Harvey Battaile would have been of a
proper age to have accompanied Wm. the Conqueror, in 1066 to England, and
adds: "I am, therefore, of the opinin that the Battile family of va. were
probably of Norman origin and came over with William the Conqueror."
...the exact date of his coming, or by what ship, from what port, is not
known...on april 2d, 1684...a :Certificate ...for the importation of the
following persons into the colony"; one of the persons being John2
Battile...within a few weeks after the date...John1 Battile is sworn in as
"Under Sheriff for the South side of the Rappahannoc."...and by June 1st,
1687 had "lately married Catherine, one of the daughters of Mr. Robert
Taliaferro, Dec;d."..1692 he was in command of a Company of Rangers against
the Indians...169206...member of the House of Burgesses from
Essex...Catherine...lived but a short time after their marriage, and died
without issue...1695, as Capt. John1 Battaile he received a certificate for
six hundred acres of land for the importation of twelve persons; in the year
1707, Thomas Merriweather sold to John1 Battaile 1631 acres "in the freshes
of the Rappahannock, commonly known as Solomon's Garden,"...Jan. 20th,
1707-8, John1 Battile wrote and signed his Will, and in less than a month it
was offered for probate...
"...there are references to Col. John1 Battaile in early records too numerous
to be cited at this time, but we may select one of special interest: 'Fryday,
May 3, 1694; Mr. Speaker informed the house that he had received from his
Excellency 2 letters, viz; one from Mr. Taliaferro, Lieutenant of Rangers at
the head of the Rappahannock river, and one from Captain Battaile in the
upper parts of said river giving an account of the Mischief lately done by
Indians in order to communicate them to the House &c.' (Journal, H. B.)."
!Benjamin Franklin on Fido May, 1995
!Betty A. White, 916 Elizabeth St., Gilmer, Tx. 75644 (903)843-3426, Feb.,
1993 - "Sources of Information: Capt. of Rangers & House of Burgess"
!Va. Mag. of Hist. & Biog. Vol. 33, Jul or Jan., 1925, p. 299 Va. Council
Journals. NOTES TO COUNCIL JOURNALS: John Battaile of Rappahannock,
afterwards of Essex county, was a captain commanding rangers against the
Indians in 1692 and was a Burgess for Essex in the same year. He married
Elizabeth, daughter of Col. Lawrence Smith, of Gloucester county, and in his
will, dated Jan. 21, and proved in Essex, Feb. 1707-8, named his wife, his
sons John, Hay, Lawrence and Nicholas and daughter Elizabeth. His eldest son,
John, of the text, was born in Dec. 1695, and died March 4, 1732-3. He
married Sarah _____. This well known family has spread widely through the
South and West.
!Va. Mag. of Hist. & Biog. Vol. 33, Jul or Jun 1925, p. 35. Va. Council
Journal: John Battaile was one of the first justices of Caroline in 1728. He
was son of Col. John Battaile, of Rappahannock and Essex Counties who was a
captain of rangers in service against the Indians n 1692 and a burgess for
Essex in the same year. He married Elizabeth, daughter of Col. Lawrence
Smsith of Gloucester, and dying in 1708, left (with other issue) John
Battaile of the text. See this Magazine, III, 1, 2; and IX, 213, where the
epitaph of John Battaile, the younger, is given.
!Internet Aug., 1996: Andrew Harrison and his son Andrew with wife Elizabeth
were ancestors of the Harrison lines of Loudon Co. and Monroe Co. TN. He was
born at least by 1707. (Records show he was of age by 1728 and could have
been of age earlier.
"Andrew Harrison (son of Andrew Harrison who died in 1718) on August 10,
1708, gave bond in Essex County Court as the guardian of Elizabeth Battaile,
and on January 2, 1710, Andrew Harrison and Elizabeth, his wife, deeded land
which was bequeathed by the said Elizabeth's father, John Battaile. By which
we know that the wife of Andrew Harrison, Jr. was Elizabeth Battaile,
daughter of Capt. John Battaile, of Essex County, Virginia, who was Captain
of Rangers against the Indians in 1692 and in the same year a member of the
House of Burgesses from Essex County..." !2. "The Wives of Colonel John
Battaile of Virginia" by Henry G. Taliaferro in "The Virginia Genealogist",
Vol. 36, No. 2, Apr-Jul 1992,
pp. 83-88.
From: "Richard W. Kesler" <[email protected]> 04 Nov 1998, Page 84 0f
reference 2 reads in part as follows:
'The identity and number of the wives of John Battaile of Rappahannock
River is a matter of some confusion. My own conclusions differ from those of
McGroarty, who held that Battaile had two wives: Catherine Taliaferro and
Elizabeth Smith. I believe that Battaile had three
wives.
'Three bits of documentary evidence concernig the identity of Battaile's
wives were known to McGroarty. The first, an order of Rappahannock Court, 1
June 1687, states that John Battaile had "lately married Catherine, one of
the daughters of Mr. Robert Taliaferro,
decd." The second, dated 16 June 1700, is a power of attorney from Col.
Lawrence Smith of Gloucester County to his "son-in-law Capt. John Battaile."
The third is the will of John Battaile, in which he refers
to his "loving wife, Elizabeth Battaile." From this, McGroarty
condluded that Battaile had two wives, that Catherine (Taliaferro) Battaile
died shortly after her marriage, and the Elizabeth of the will was the
daughter of Lawrence Smith.
'To digress momentarily, Robert Taliaferro and Lawrence Smith, both
emigrants to Virginia, are believed to have been brothers-in-law, having
married daughters of William Debnam, and early settler of York and Gloucester
counties. Lawrence Smith furthermore believed to have been the nephew of
Augustine Warner, member fo the Council of Virginia. In 1658 Catherine, the
widow of William Debnam and mother-in-law to Taliaferro and Smith, married
the Rev. Charles Grymes. They were the grandparents of John Grymes, member
of the Council of Virginia. On 26 March 1666 Robert Taliaferro and Lawrence
Smith patented in partnership 6,300 acres of the Rappahannock at Snow and
Massaponax creeks, present Spotsylvania County. John Taliaferro, third son
of Robert, married Sarah Smith, daughter of Lawrence, 1682.'
!"Anneliese L. Kennedy" <[email protected]>15 Dec 1998
!GenServ 6-1999 RITN7NB database belonging to: Rittenhouse, Becky, email:
[email protected]<29056 Wildlife Lane, Brooksville, FL.,34602,
352-796-6578
!GenServ 6-20-00 >Hamlin, Anne< email: >[email protected]<
>Helen,
>I just read your post on the Battailes. I descend from this line and
>also
>have John as my end-of-line person. If I find a bridge to Europe, I'll
>let
>you know. If you find it first, please inform me.
>Jim Haines
>[email protected]
>From: Helen, Sacramento
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Helen Silvey [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 9:00 AM
To: Haines
Subject: Re: BattaileI've looked until I had to go on to something else, but I have another avenue
just opened up, I'll give it a try and let you know what happens. The is the
only ref. I have:Va. Mag. of Hist. & Biog. Vol. 33, Jul or Jun 1925, p. 35. Va. Council
Journal: John Battaile was one of the first justices sof Caroline in 1728. He
was son of Col. John Battaile, of Rappahannock and Essex Counties who was a
captain of rangers in service against the Indians n 1692 and a burgess for
Essex in the same year. He married Elizabeth, daughter of Col. Lawrence Smith
of Gloucester, and dying in 1708, left (with other issue) John Battaile of
the text. See this Magazine, III, 1, 2; and IX, 213, where the epitaph of
John Battaile, the younger, is given.On 10/5/99 9:29 PM, "Haines" wrote:This is the ref. I have for his son John "The Ranger":
!"Torrence and Allied Families" by Robert M. Torrence, The Wickersham Press,
Philadelphia 1938, p. 305 "Captain of Rangers against the Indians, in 1692;
Burgess, 1692-16996; Colonel of Militia, at the time of his death; will dated
Jan. 24, 1707-8; . . ."
!The Colonial Gen. Vol. VIII, #3
!LDS AF, March, 1994, AFN: 9JZN-05
!Wm. & Mary Quarterly, v. 1, 2nd ser, p. 151: "Nicholas Battaile, b. 1701,
son of Col. John Battaile, Sr. (d. [illeg.] and Elizabeth, dau. of Maj.
Lawrence Smith, and sister of Sarah Smith, the wife of the first John
Taliaferro."
!Va. Hist. Mag., v. 23, 1915, p. 88 - makes ref. to VA Mag., v. 3, p. 1
!Wm. & Mary Quarterly, v. 9, ser. 1 - "...of St. Mary's Parish, Essex
Co...Will ...dated 10 Jan., 1708, pr. 10 Feb., 1709, names wife Elizabeth,
sons John, Lawrence, Hay and Nicholas Battaile; ...residue to be equally
divided between his wife and son John...mentions also "Brother Charles
Taliaferro: and Mr. William Thornton"
!Thomas Hill to Laquita Armstrong on Fido 7/29/94
!Ben Franklin on Fido 8/15/94
!Va. Magazine of History & Biography, Vol. 41, Apr., Jul., Oct., 1933:
...Domesday Book...Vol. One and Two..."Bataile-hall, the Manor house...took
its name from the ancient family of Batailes who enjoyed it as early as the
reign of King Henry II...Richard Battaile held two fees in 1165; his son,
Will. de Bataile gave and confirmed all the Tythes of his lordship of
Stapleford to the Priory of the Holy Trinity in London...grant he made by
laying down a gold ring on the alter of the said church of the Holy Trinity.
He calls it his gift, though he owns the same was granted by Harvey Battaile,
his great-grandfather...As late as 1853...in the church of Clare, County
Suffolk, Eng., "there was to be seen a stained-glass window in which were the
Arm of Battayle...The Rev. A. H. Hord, directly desc. from Lawrence4 Battaile
of "Prospect Hill"...points out that Harvey Battaile would have been of a
proper age to have accompanied Wm. the Conqueror, in 1066 to England, and
adds: "I am, therefore, of the opinin that the Battile family of va. were
probably of Norman origin and came over with William the Conqueror."
...the exact date of his coming, or by what ship, from what port, is not
known...on april 2d, 1684...a :Certificate ...for the importation of the
following persons into the colony"; one of the persons being John2
Battile...within a few weeks after the date...John1 Battile is sworn in as
"Under Sheriff for the South side of the Rappahannoc."...and by June 1st,
1687 had "lately married Catherine, one of the daughters of Mr. Robert
Taliaferro, Dec;d."..1692 he was in command of a Company of Rangers against
the Indians...169206...member of the House of Burgesses from
Essex...Catherine...lived but a short time after their marriage, and died
without issue...1695, as Capt. John1 Battaile he received a certificate for
six hundred acres of land for the importation of twelve persons; in the year
1707, Thomas Merriweather sold to John1 Battaile 1631 acres "in the freshes
of the Rappahannock, commonly known as Solomon's Garden,"...Jan. 20th,
1707-8, John1 Battile wrote and signed his Will, and in less than a month it
was offered for probate...
"...there are references to Col. John1 Battaile in early records too numerous
to be cited at this time, but we may select one of special interest: 'Fryday,
May 3, 1694; Mr. Speaker informed the house that he had received from his
Excellency 2 letters, viz; one from Mr. Taliaferro, Lieutenant of Rangers at
the head of the Rappahannock river, and one from Captain Battaile in the
upper parts of said river giving an account of the Mischief lately done by
Indians in order to communicate them to the House &c.' (Journal, H. B.)."
!Benjamin Franklin on Fido May, 1995
!Betty A. White, 916 Elizabeth St., Gilmer, Tx. 75644 (903)843-3426, Feb.,
1993 - "Sources of Information: Capt. of Rangers & House of Burgess"
!Va. Mag. of Hist. & Biog. Vol. 33, Jul or Jan., 1925, p. 299 Va. Council
Journals. NOTES TO COUNCIL JOURNALS: John Battaile of Rappahannock,
afterwards of Essex county, was a captain commanding rangers against the
Indians in 1692 and was a Burgess for Essex in the same year. He married
Elizabeth, daughter of Col. Lawrence Smith, of Gloucester county, and in his
will, dated Jan. 21, and proved in Essex, Feb. 1707-8, named his wife, his
sons John, Hay, Lawrence and Nicholas and daughter Elizabeth. His eldest son,
John, of the text, was born in Dec. 1695, and died March 4, 1732-3. He
married Sarah _____. This well known family has spread widely through the
South and West.
!Va. Mag. of Hist. & Biog. Vol. 33, Jul or Jun 1925, p. 35. Va. Council
Journal: John Battaile was one of the first justices of Caroline in 1728. He
was son of Col. John Battaile, of Rappahannock and Essex Counties who was a
captain of rangers in service against the Indians n 1692 and a burgess for
Essex in the same year. He married Elizabeth, daughter of Col. Lawrence
Smsith of Gloucester, and dying in 1708, left (with other issue) John
Battaile of the text. See this Magazine, III, 1, 2; and IX, 213, where the
epitaph of John Battaile, the younger, is given.
!Internet Aug., 1996: Andrew Harrison and his son Andrew with wife Elizabeth
were ancestors of the Harrison lines of Loudon Co. and Monroe Co. TN. He was
born at least by 1707. (Records show he was of age by 1728 and could have
been of age earlier.
"Andrew Harrison (son of Andrew Harrison who died in 1718) on August 10,
1708, gave bond in Essex County Court as the guardian of Elizabeth Battaile,
and on January 2, 1710, Andrew Harrison and Elizabeth, his wife, deeded land
which was bequeathed by the said Elizabeth's father, John Battaile. By which
we know that the wife of Andrew Harrison, Jr. was Elizabeth Battaile,
daughter of Capt. John Battaile, of Essex County, Virginia, who was Captain
of Rangers against the Indians in 1692 and in the same year a member of the
House of Burgesses from Essex County..." !2. "The Wives of Colonel John
Battaile of Virginia" by Henry G. Taliaferro in "The Virginia Genealogist",
Vol. 36, No. 2, Apr-Jul 1992,
pp. 83-88.
From: "Richard W. Kesler" <[email protected]> 04 Nov 1998, Page 84 0f
reference 2 reads in part as follows:
'The identity and number of the wives of John Battaile of Rappahannock
River is a matter of some confusion. My own conclusions differ from those of
McGroarty, who held that Battaile had two wives: Catherine Taliaferro and
Elizabeth Smith. I believe that Battaile had three
wives.
'Three bits of documentary evidence concernig the identity of Battaile's
wives were known to McGroarty. The first, an order of Rappahannock Court, 1
June 1687, states that John Battaile had "lately married Catherine, one of
the daughters of Mr. Robert Taliaferro,
decd." The second, dated 16 June 1700, is a power of attorney from Col.
Lawrence Smith of Gloucester County to his "son-in-law Capt. John Battaile."
The third is the will of John Battaile, in which he refers
to his "loving wife, Elizabeth Battaile." From this, McGroarty
condluded that Battaile had two wives, that Catherine (Taliaferro) Battaile
died shortly after her marriage, and the Elizabeth of the will was the
daughter of Lawrence Smith.
'To digress momentarily, Robert Taliaferro and Lawrence Smith, both
emigrants to Virginia, are believed to have been brothers-in-law, having
married daughters of William Debnam, and early settler of York and Gloucester
counties. Lawrence Smith furthermore believed to have been the nephew of
Augustine Warner, member fo the Council of Virginia. In 1658 Catherine, the
widow of William Debnam and mother-in-law to Taliaferro and Smith, married
the Rev. Charles Grymes. They were the grandparents of John Grymes, member
of the Council of Virginia. On 26 March 1666 Robert Taliaferro and Lawrence
Smith patented in partnership 6,300 acres of the Rappahannock at Snow and
Massaponax creeks, present Spotsylvania County. John Taliaferro, third son
of Robert, married Sarah Smith, daughter of Lawrence, 1682.'
!"Anneliese L. Kennedy" <[email protected]>15 Dec 1998
!GenServ 6-1999 RITN7NB database belonging to: Rittenhouse, Becky, email:
[email protected]<29056 Wildlife Lane, Brooksville, FL.,34602,
352-796-6578
!GenServ 6-20-00 >Hamlin, Anne< email: >[email protected]<
>Helen,
>I just read your post on the Battailes. I descend from this line and
>also
>have John as my end-of-line person. If I find a bridge to Europe, I'll
>let
>you know. If you find it first, please inform me.
>Jim Haines
>[email protected]
>Helen, Sacramento
Excerpt from a letter written by David H. Franklin Riherd:
Grandfather Taylor was of Scott-Irish blood. He was raised an
orphan boy. He was tall and rather slender build. He had the
biggest ears of any person I ever saw- fine conversationalists.I have heard him tell many incidents of his life which would be
of but letter interest to you. he was a practical joker in his
younger days. He died in 1880, at the age of 75. He was a
farmer the most of his life. A Republican in politics and a
Baptist in religion. Almost all of his children were lovers of
books and several were educated.
Excerpt of a letter written by David H. Franklin Riherd:
Grandmother was a Durham, born in 1812, a large portly woman.
Blond with light blue eyes of a reserved nature had two brothers,
Rodney and Ezekiel. Uncle Ezekiel was a physician and lived at
Fountain head, Tenn. One sister named Nancy. Grandmother's name
was Lousa. She married David Wareham Taylor. The had eight
children: William, Zorintha Permilia, Lucy Ann, Thomas Franklin,
David, James Morgan, Albert Claudiius and Louisa. William died
when about grown. My mother was born 1835. The old bible you
have shows you that.Grandmother was related to Lord Durham of England. Uncle Rodney
lived at Bethfrage, Tenn.
BIRTH: EZEKIEL MARSHALL
SUMNER COUNTY
PRIVATE
VIRGINIA MITILIA
$40.00 ANNUAL ALLOWANCE
$120.00 AMOUNT RECEIVED
MAY 3, 1832 PENSION STARTED
AGE 77BIRTH: FRANCIS MARSHALL
SUMNER COUNTY
VIRGINIA MILITIA
$30.00 ANNUAL ALLOWANCE
$75.00 AMOUNT RECEIVED
MAY 13, 1832 PENSION STARTED
AGE 84
LAND: Record of the Taxable Property and Polls in Sumner County for the year 1816
Name Acres Situation
Ezekiel Marshal 270 Barrens
She was named in her husbands will as Lucy