Thom Yorke
loosens up
Radiohead's
insular front man talks about band's new album, fatherhood
Life
is a bowl of cherries for Radiohead's Thom Yorke. No, really -- he insists.
He's not quite as put-upon as he's invariably made out to be.
The material
suggests otherwise. America first became aware of Yorke in 1993, when he
agonized about what a "Creep" he was. Four years later his band released
"OK Computer," its masterpiece of modern-world alienation. Last year's
brooding reverie "Kid A" and its sister project, the brand-new "Amnesiac,"
provide further proof that peace of mind eludes Radiohead.
For the new
album, however, Yorke and his band mates have vowed to make themselves
(if not the music) more accessible. The inscrutable singer is even doing
a few interviews; on the eve of a headlining appearance at Shoreline Amphitheatre,
he granted us one, by e-mail. Happy-go-lucky he's not, but he's working
on it.
Q: Your rants
against computers are astute and very funny, yet you conduct your interviews
by e-mail. Isn't that a contradiction?
A: E-mail is
better than a phone for me. I can't think quick on the phone.
Q: My Radiohead
records are filed between Rachel's (the indie chamber-music group) and
Rage Against the Machine. I have a theory that bands are often a perfect
blend of the two groups that sandwich them in alphabetical order. Anything
to it?
A: It depends
if you're in the rock and pop section or not. And what the hell is indie
chamber music?
Q: What happened
to all those guitars that were supposed to be on "Amnesiac"?
A: Oh yes,
"Kid A" was just an aberration. We lost our way, lost our roots. You see,
music with guitars has soul, apparently, and everything else is going off
the rails one way or another. It is, therefore, the duty of the cream of
British music critics to steer us back. Although at least guitars don't
crash.
Q: The new
album and "Kid A" are stuffed with repeated phrases that seem to float
freely in space: "women and children first," "Ice Age coming," "where'd
you park the car?" What do you do to quiet your mind?
A: I put all
of its junk in songs and inflict them on other people, safe in the knowledge
that whatever virus it was that gave me them has left me for good.
Q: Brass-band
funeral marches figure prominently on songs on each of the previous two
albums. Why?
A: Charlie
Mingus. He changed the way I heard everything forever. Especially "Freedom"
from "The Complete Town Hall Concert" (on Blue Note). It's what I thought
rock music was... It was like hearing voices from beyond. The horns hit
all the hidden notes you'd forgotten about. Like the first time I heard
Sonic Youth.
Q: There's
an alarming number of vague Billy Joel references in the new song titles
-- "Life in a Glasshouse," "I Might Be Wrong." Intentional?
A: I don't
know any Billy Joel. Except that one about "still rock 'n' roll to me"
which I remember singing along to in a megastore.
Q: Had you
changed diapers before the arrival of your new baby, Noah?
A: No, but
it's OK. Even his s-- is golden, except when I am hung over. And in his
sick are pearls from the ocean. I have them all over my suit to prove it.
Q: Can you
see characteristics of yourself already in Noah? If so, how scary is that?
A: I think
he's got my temper, poor chap. He sticks his lower lip out when he doesn't
get his own way. This is also familiar. And of course he is absolutely
beautiful, naturally. It's funny, but I don't find it scary. It makes sense.
I was absolutely obsessed with death all the way through "Kid A"/"Amnesiac."
Now I'm not.
Q: Are you
a picky eater?
A: (Another
lifestyle question? Along the lines of what makeup do I use and how do
I spend my spare time?) I am vegetarian. Which means in France I want to
be sick all the time. In Germany and Portugal I hardly eat at all until
I leave. But when I am hungry I get very desperate. I draw the line at
cheese in a can, however. Days and days traveling in the United States
living on tortilla chips and salsa can also take its toll.
Q: Novels or
nonfiction?
A: Nonfiction
for a long time. Novels to keep me human. There's a book called "Hunger"
by Knut Hamsun I just read -- novel that I identified a lot with. And at
the moment I'm reading George Monbiot's book called "The Captive State,"
about the corporate takeover of Britain. Another lifestyle question?
Q: You've sung
with Bjork and PJ Harvey. Who's on your wish list?
A: I'll go
anywhere. I'm cheap as well.
Q: Despite
the title of your concert film, "Meeting People Is Easy," it would appear
that it's not.
A: It goes
in phases. Depends whether the person concerned wants anything. Recent
example would be sitting in a Jacuzzi being harassed by a would-be manager
of a nineteen yr old singer-songwriter. Would I be interested in listening
to his demo? By the way, he is a friend of the head of Warner/Chappell
(music publishing) blah blah bubble bubble bubble ...
Q: Do you set
goals for the band, or yourself personally?
A: NO. That's
soooo '80s, dahling. Personally I'd like to not be ill next time we tour.
That would be nice. To spend less time making the next album, or EPs or
whatever. Oh yes, and we've got to sort out our studio. It's a nightmare
-- cables, guitars, samplers, disks, pllugs, light fittings, old coffee
cups, tapes, DATs on the floor, paper everywhere, bits of wood, five different
drum kits and cymbals and stuff, plug adapters that make no sense. Two
Apple II computers, broken psychedelic lighting, three years of ignored
paperwork, soft toys, candles, speakers, paintings and drawings and photocopies,
broken synths, calculators, outboard gear that has never worked since we
bought it.
Q: What would
be the ideal way for a band like Radiohead to go out?
A: Ummm . .
. fistfight. Blood all over the carpet.
Di
James Sullivan
24/06/2001
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