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They are
serious men with serious sales. But, cautious, paranoid and in no way the
new Pink Floyd, Radiohead have their troubles, and they have a new album
to promote. still, as singer Thom Yorke tells Tom Doyle, it's not all terrible
news: "murderers have stopped writing to say how much they relate to creep..."
Brightly early
most weekday mornings before 9am, when other rock stars still have at least
a good six hours of kip ahead of them - or have yet in fact to go to bed
following another night of drunken or chemically induced shenanigans -
Radiohead's curiously angular guitarist Jonny Greenwood can usually be
found in the middle of a field in the quiet Oxfordshire countryside, flying
his kite. If the widescreen possibilities of this undeniably evocative
scene has a touch of pink floyd-like imagery about it, then that perhaps
is no coincidence, since the soundtrack on the rake-thin 25-year-old man's
personal stereo is meddle, an album released in 1971, the year he was born.
This evidence
alone may not be enough to suggest that Radiohead are slowly mutating into
the new Pink Floyd. But then there are other factors which have to be taken
into consideration. Not least the fact that singer thom Yorke warmly recalls
recording parts of their self-produced third album, OK Computer, at their
recently acquired studio farmhouse while, outside the window, herds of
jersey cattle lumbered lazily through sunny fields. In the background,
an industrial chimney belched acrid smoke into the sky. "It was the floyd",
he enthuses before - perhaps typically - feigning vomiting in self-disgust
at having been forced to draw this seemingly unthinkable parallel himself.
Bassist Colin Greenwood has his own thoughts about his brother's kite-flying
plot to turn Radiohead into a progressive rock ensemble.
"Jonny made
us all watch Pink Floyd live in Pompei and said, now this is how we should
do videos," he offers, grinning, his already frighteningly voluminous eyes
widening in mock disbelief. "I just remember seeing dave gilmour sitting
on his arse playing guitar and roger waters with long greasy hair, sandals
and dusty flares, staggers over and picks up this big beater and whacks
this gong. Ridiculous."
Nevertheless,
there is no getting away from it: Radiohead's keenly awaited third album
is a sprawling, hugely experimental affair that cannot be described accurately
without using the words "out" and "there". The return single, Paranoid
Android, by way of an indication, is a six-and-a-half-minute epic in three
movements. Jonny greenwood admits that during the making of the record,
he had found himself becoming involved in a brave, but perhaps futile side
pursuit: trying to unearth half-decent prog rock albums.
"It's been
very disappointing because most of it is awful," he softly admits in his
engagingly posh way. "I've got it into my head that prog rock must be good
because it attracted a lot of fans. So far, i've just trawled through fairly
tedious genesis albums."
Aside from
all of this, there has also been the suggestions that Radiohead have been
gradually morphing into R.E.M. since the Oxford quintet's extended supporting
sojourn on the monster tour in the summer of 1995. Certainly Thom Yorke's
friendship with Michael Stipe - who made the onstage pronouncement that
"Radiohead are so good, they scare me" - has been well documented. In fact,
Yorke and Jonny Greenwood have just returned to Oxford from London, where
they were collaborating with Stipe on tracks for Velvet Goldmine, the glam
rock-scrutinising film stipe is currently producing. Notably, on OK Computer,
there is evidence that Yorke's approach to lyric-writing has taken on a
distinctly more oblique, Stipe-like bent.
Whatever comparisons
are being made, it's clear that Radiohead have gone through something of
a transitional period. It seems reasonable to declare that toying with
ground-breaking studio techniques and constructing wildly ambitious musical
atmospheres now figures heavily in their collective imaginations. Queen
for the 90's, anyone?
"I've been
building up my chest just now so that it looks good in a white vest," warns
the small and slight-framed Yorke, with his characteristic level of sarcasm.
"Christ, you should've seen the 'tache I had last week."
After coming
down from such a high as Radiohead experienced when R.E.M. took them under
their wing and nursed them through the crucial period where they learned
how to get their music across to stadium-proportioned crowds (Yorke claims
his most deep-rooted nightmare is to become Jim Kerr at his worthiest),
the band were given carte blanche to record and self-produce their next
album. As a consequence, OK Computer unarguably finds them breaking into
new territory, from the looped-up, all-fronts assault of Airbag, through
the searingly anthemic Electioneering to the soothingly effective Exit
Music (For A Film), ostensibly she's leaving home retold with a panicky
edge.
Preliminary
sessions began - in a stroke of magnificent indulgence, at actress Jane
Seymour's mansion near Bath - in the spring of last year, the very same
place where the Cure initially developed the commercially disastrous Wild
Mood Swings. The previous summer, Johnny Cash had rented the house before
an appearance at Glastonbury. The flowing-locked English rose could be
reassured that Radiohead were something less of a rock'n'roll proposition.
Although they did rearrange the furniture.
"We recorded
in her library," Jonny Greenwood explains. "It was wonderful going somewhere
that wasn't designed for recording. Recording studios now tend to be quite
scientific and clinical. You can't really impose yourself without getting
over the fact that there are fag burns in the carpet and gold discs all
around. It's good to go and decide that we'll turn this beautifully furnished
sitting room into whatever."
While they
are a five-strong band of self-confessed "neurotics anonymous", the fact
that Radiohead are so keen to guard the rural location of their studio
farm headquarters, where the album was completed, is indicative of their
growing status as the archetypal art school-grounded english rock band
afford the imperial leather- like luxury of creative freedom. This, it
would seem, is a direct result of the fact that, throughout their five-year
existence - while everyone's heads were turned in the directions of initially
blur, then Suede and now Oasis - Radiohead have quietly grown into a formidably
successful act. Their second album, The Bends, has now achieved platinum
status in britain, a trend more or less followed in most record-buying
nations.
When, at the
beginning of 1996, Parlophone records released Street Spirit (Fade Out),
the fourth, campaign-closing single from The Bends, its hypnotically languid
tone rendered it too dark and sombre to be playlisted on radio one. It
still debuted with a one-fingered salute at number 5. On the release of
War Child's Help album the previous September, Radiohead's magnificently
moody contribution, Lucky (oddly included on OK Computer), proved the stand-out
- although the band had been forced too complete the track in an intensive
five-hour period to meet the required deadline, after a day spent posing
for a War Child camera crew dispatched to film them pretending to record.
"They were
waiting for us to record the song, and we were waiting for them to go,"
smiles the unnaturally lofty Ed O'Brien, credited on the group's record
sleeves for supplying "polite guitar", as opposed to Jonny Greenwood's
"abusive guitar". Of the video footage depicting casualties of the bosnian
conflict that was subsequently set to the track, Yorke - never one to understate
his emotional reactions - simply says, "it had me in tears".
Today the five
members of Radiohead, fresh from tramping through fields of rape for their
Q photo session, mill around the management offices close to their recording
studio, seemingly a relaxed and quietly polite bunch who enjoy a laugh
of the wry and knowing variety. O'Brien, lightly stoned this afternoon,
since this is effectively a day off for the band - although pockets of
them will frequently disappear into an adjoining recording room to continue
work on B-sides - is charming and affable and has earned a reputation as
the band member renowned for his on-stage acts of over-exuberance. The
band gleefully recall the guitarist once disappearing over the lip of the
stage at a theatre gig in North Carolina, tumbling into the orchestra pit
and then struggling for ages to clamber back out.
Groomed drummer
and, impressively, ex-samaritan Phil Selway proves suitably genial for
someone who has had a Japanese fan club - Phil is great - set up in his
honour. Another of the Phil is great club's occasional meetings is planned
for the following week, when Radiohead make a promotional trip to the pacific
rim.
The Greenwood
brothers, who share no distinctive physical resemblance, are polar opposites.
Jonny rarely touches alcohol; Colin can regularly be located in a pub after
frenzied searches five minutes before the band are due on stage. Jonny
is silent unless coaxed; Colin is effusive when engaged on the topic of
books, records, other bands. Jonny was likely described as "a dreamer"
by his teachers, his head seemingly operating at some cloud-high altitude;
Colin is sharp and wary and likely the cornerstone of Radiohead. when together,
both share an inscrutable look if questioned on virtually any subject.
Colin admits to feeling guilty of acting a touch cruelly to his colour-blind
younger brother when they were growing up: he would mix up the crayons,
which the guitarist claims "retarded me".
"We share the
same gene pool," states the elder, directing another meaningful look towards
his sibling.
"But I got
the shallow end," adds his toothily blessed younger brother, without any
detectable hesitation.
Meanwhile,
the boyishly proportioned Thom Yorke pads around barefoot in blue canvas
jeans, Radiohead fan club t-shirt and gaultier shades, his short spiky
hair dyed black after extended periods as peroxide blond and retina-damaging
orage. Quietly intense, he is a man possessed of a bitingly sharp sense
of humour, although an air of brow-beaten cynicism can be detected in his
every utterance.
The others
simply describe Yorke as "a bit of a worrier", but it would seem that his
enduring reputation as a troubled and overly angsty individual is reasonably
well-deserved, despite his claims to having recently "learned to relax
a little". He talks with his head bowed and eyes closed, covering his face
with his hands and peering through his fingers, sometimes curling his limbs
up into a tight ball, as if he is under physical attack. The prospect of
Radiohead performing this summer to 40,000 people in Ireland as well as
headlining a major festival (interestingly, on the same weekend as the
strategically unannounced Glastonbury bill) seems to fill him with dread.
"I can't see
why we're doing these big gigs," he shrugs. "Thing is, whoever it is up
there, it's not the person sitting here. It's a completely different state
of mind, that you have to spend a long time getting into. I can't switch
it on and off. when even the logistics of these big gigs are discussed,
I just fucking freeze up. It's not something I'm emotionally capable of
dealing with yet. Hopefully I'll get back into a different frame of mind
where it won't worry me."
While there
is a certain fragile quality to Yorke, the two sides to Radiohead's chief
songwriter are exemplified in those moments when his distinctive singing
voice swoops down from a choirboy falsetto to a low, anguished snarl. Similarly,
in conversation he can suddenly cop an attitude, turning shirty and argumentative.
O'Brien remembers his first impression of the young Yorke when the two
were involved in a play - the former acting, the latter providing musical
accompaniment - at the Oxford school where Radiohead first met as teenagers.
"There was
this tense dress rehearsal," O'Brien remembers, "And thom and this other
fella were jamming freeform cod jazz throughout it. The director stopped
the play and shouted up to this scaffold tower thing they were playing
on, trying to find out what the hell was going on. Thom started shouting
down, I don't know what the fuck we're supposed to be playing. And this
was to a teacher."
Born with one
eye closed on October 7, 1968, the infant Thom Yorke had already endured
five major operations on his paralysed eyelid by the time he was six. Made
to wear an eye-patch during his early school years, he was cruelly mocked
by his schoolmates. He half-bitterly brushes off suggestions that this
may have caused him to have a slight chip on his shoulder.
"Oh no," he
states sharply. "I was sweet and lovely and nothing ever happened to me.
(Cagily) when I was younger, I was in the music room most of the time,
anyway. It was great. No-one came down and there were these tiny rooms
with sound-proofed cubicles. I suppose I'm quite an aggressive person.
I was a fighter at school, but I never won. I was into the idea of fighting
(laughs hysterically). I've had to calm down a bit, otherwise I'd go nuts."
Yorke recalls
the moment in his younger life when he realised that he was perhaps not
quite as handy with his fists as he'd imagined.
"In first year
at college, I went through this phase where I was into this granddad hat
and coat I had," he quietly explains. "They were immaculate and I was into
dressing like an old man. But I went out one night and there was these
three blokes, townie guys, waiting to beat someone up and they found me.
They said something, I turned around, blew them a kiss and that was it.
They beat the living shit out of me. One was kicking me, one had a stick
and the other was smashing me in the face. That put me off fighting a bit."
Back in mid-'80s
Oxford, where Radiohead first bonded and began rehearsing, essentially
as the school band, they called themselves On A Friday. Selway was in the
sixth form, O'Brien in the fifth year, Yorke and Colin Greenwood in the
fourth and Jonny Greenwood - the last to join - in the third.
"We're still
in our same classes and years really," the elder Greenwood grimly decides.
"The thing about having been together for such a long period is that there
are some heinously embarrassing group shots from ten years ago when were
in adolescence with varying styles of haircut and demeanour which would
now be openly laughed at in the street."
During this
era, of course, the quiff was king ("You'd literally take a photograph
of morrissey to the barber and say, i want it like that") and if On A Friday
resembled the Smiths visually, they had yet to find a foothold musically.
The four others remember tapes of Thom Yorke's early compositions as being
"schizophrenic".
"One track,
rattlesnake, just had a drum loop that thom did himself at home on a tape
recorder with bad scratching over the top and kind of prince vocals," Jonny
Greenwood remembers. "The chains had viola and was meant to sound like
the Waterboys. What is that you see was a feedback frenzy. After hearing
it, I knew Thom was writing great songs and I knew what I wanted to do."
Nevertheless,
the younger Greenwood's ambitions were thwarted by the group's reluctance
to let him join. Described by them as "a precocious talent" who would whip
through an assortment of instruments in an attempt to impress his potential
bandmates, On A Friday's first gig at Oxford Jericho tavern in 1987 featured
(according to Selway) Jonny sitting on stage "with a harmonica, waiting
for his big moment".
As imageless
as a police identity parade, and embodying such extremes of stature and
build that Ed O'Brien probably towers a whole foot above Thom Yorke, Radiohead
initially found it difficult to attract attention during the lifespan of
their debut album, 1993's Pablo Honey, when other, more fashion-conscious
outfits were hogging the limelight.
On its initial
release in the UK, the second, self-hating single, the possibly classic
Creep, stiffed. As with the fixx before them and bush afterwards, Radiohead
suffered the indignity of being rejected by their motherland and embraced
by America when Creep became a slacker anthem after an extended period
of over-exposure on college radio. By the time Radiohead arrived in America
for their first tour, Creep was already in the Billboard top 40, and for
the summer of 1993 its mutant guitar crunch and soaring melody spilled
out from car radios and apartment windows all over America.
Its follow-up,
the bracing stop whispering, failed to maintain the momentum and the band
found themselves performing to capacity audiences interested in hearing
one song. For a time, Yorke re-christened the song crap.
"At that time
the whole so-called alternative rock thing had happened there," remembers
Yorke, "populated by sap programmers from the 80's who didn't have a clue
what they were putting on and Creep suffered from that. It was a good song,
but afterwards it was, well, let's have more that please because the programmers
understand it, and it's like, no, sorry."
"We didn't
know what was normal in America," Jonny Greenwood muses. "We went over
there and we'd turn on mtv and Creep would be on again. We though, oh,
that's good."
"People were
being very nice to us over there because Creep was doing well," adds Selway.
"Stop Whispering didn't do quite so well, so that opened us up to the more
cynical side of it."
"We were hysterical,"
decides O'Brien. "One moment we'd be giggling, the next we'd be really
down. Our reactions were extreme."
Regretfully,
it was around this time that Radiohead, under pressure to visually re-invent
themselves, became the tightly trousered, big-haired rock band they felt
America had expected of them. Jonny Greenwood and Yorke even accepted modelling
assignments for American fashion magazines, the latter sporting a hellish
tangle of hair extensions atop his cranium.
"I was rock,"
winces the frontman with an embarrassed laugh. "There were so many elements
to that period, but the hair was the worst. It was such a weird trip anyway,
because suddenly we were seen as this big investment and there was money
being thrown at us. It didn't last long enough to mess us up, but then
i suppose, for a while, it probably did."
The most positive
knock-on effect of Creep's us success was that on its re-release in the
uk it reached number 7. On the negative side, Radiohead were in danger
of looking like a one-trick pony. Immediately they set to work on The Bends,
titled after the dramatic side-effects of emerging from the depths too
rapidly. Cutting between zooropa-fashioned loop collages (Planet Telex),
folk rock (Fake Plastic Trees) and hushed atmospherics (Bulletproof), the
record managed to distract the listener for long enough to forget that
Creep existed. Of course, America couldn't get its head around it.
"There's this
assumption, especially over here, that Radiohead are big in America", O'Brien
offers. "Radiohead are not big in America. we had Fake Plastic Trees as
a single and it was played to a radio station. They did a survey of their
listeners - 18-to-25-year-old males who drive four-wheel-drive jeeps -
and it came bottom of the list. The thing with Radiohead and america is
that we had one pop hit there."
"And they don't
remember it anyway because they've got the attention span of insects,"
Yorke mutters, darkly. "Our so-called success in America was that it allowed
us to do lots of things, but it also meant that somehow we owed somebody
something. But I couldn't work out who and I couldn't work out how much."
Flying in the
face of the drug-hoovering, groupie-rogerering rock band image, Radiohead
present themselves as evian-sipping abstainers, content to play a hand
of bridge on their tour bus, thanking you very much. Nevertheless, the
punishing 18-month touring schedule that followed the bends was not without
casualties.
There is an
undercurrent of obsessiveness within the group, a matter most evident when
they play live. Jonny Greenwood plays his guitar with such teeth-grindingly
frantic force that he unknowingly lacerates his fingers. Recently, he has
taken to strapping on an arm brace, which could be seen as a unique guitar-hero
affectation. However, Greenwood insists he's been ordered to wear it since
it was diagnosed that his playing style was causing repetitive strain injury.
Similarly, he is keen to point out that the bulky headphones he sported
through the latter half of the bends tour are industrial ear shields he
was advised to wear after suffering from a dangerously leaky lughole.
"My ear was
ringing and bleeding for two weeks on an American tour," he reveals, with
strangely calm detachment. "There was this terrifying gig in Cleveland,
where I was nearly fainting. I was taken to the hospital at three in the
morning and the doctor said the situation was really grim. I'd love to
do without both of them, but the arm brace I'm still going to need. It's
conceited to deny there's any affectation but having said that, I enjoy
putting the arm brace on before I play. It's like taping up your fingers
before a boxing match. It's a ritual."
The most memorably
grim incident of the tour, however, occurred in Munich, when Yorke blacked
out and collapsed onstage.
"That had been
building up," he mumbles while wriggling uncomfortably in his seat, head
in hands. "There's been an incident in America where i'd been really sick
as fuck. this cold had got to my throat and whacked me out. It turned into
laryngitis. The promoter takes you to the doctor, that's the normal standard
thing, and the doctor says, oh no, you're fine to play. You argue with
them. They say, no, take these drugs and you'll be fine. Then you realise
the promoter is paying the doctor. It got bad again in Germany because
we were sleeping on a cold damp tour bus in the middle of winter. This
doctor turns up - usual thing, paid by the promoter - with this huge bag
of drugs. All sorts of shit, man. He offered to inject me with steroids,
which i refused. I didn't take anything because I thought I could get through
it. We did the soundcheck and I was like, oh shit, this is really bad.
My voice was not there at all. By that point, it's too late, you can't
cancel. I go on and third song in, I lost it. I remember hitting the floor
and then i wasn't there."
He pauses and
his face contorts into a perverse smile. "It was great, actually."
Most things
about Thom Yorke's burgeoning rock star status seem to trouble him deeply.
The word he uses most frequently is "doomed". While he claims not to suffer
from an acute fear of fame ("It's just that i have no respect for it"),
he admits that his growing friendship with Michael Stipe has involved the
R.E.M. singer offering guidance on how Yorke should deal with his concerns,
although the Radiohead frontman is protective of their relationship.
"If you don't
have any semblance of a normal life, then you won't be able to write,"
he muses, "and if you can't write, then you won't be there. He's helped
me to deal with most things I couldn't deal with. The rest is not anyone
else's business and that's what's great about it. Anyway. Whatever. It
sounds like i've been touched by an evangelist or something."
Why still
bother to make music then?
"Because I
can be very drunk in a club in Oxford on a monday night and some guy comes
up to you and buys you a drink and says that the last record you made changed
his life. That means something. It makes you chill about it."
As a result
of the anguished nature of your lyrics, are Radiohead fans fairly obsessive
individuals as a whole?
"They were.
In the letters they can be, yeah. But when you meet people it's a different
thing. People put pen to paper for different reasons, some of them quite
weird. It was set up like that from the first record because of Creep and
all the hyperbole around that, but actually we lost most of that debris
when we brought out The Bends. Murderers have stopped writing to me to
say how much they can relate to Creep, so that's cool. Now it's just people
who're into what we're doing and there's a respect on both sides."
So your
motivation is purely and simply the music you make and the reaction that
you'll get from it?
"(Sarcastically)
I know it sounds awful, but yes. (Changes mood) but, y'know, that's probably
lies as well..."
You do seem
to eat yourself up about everything.
"I'm not eating
myself up," he continues, defensively. "It's just that if i read that last
statement, I would think, wanker. Because whoever's said it isn't being
honest."
There was
a certain point at which Nirvana had to pull back because they felt they
were getting too big and they couldn't handle it. Can you see yourself
doing the same if you get really famous?
"Yeah, i've
got the pull-back button ready. you have to have. that hotline back to
the president."
How would
you do that? release a few 17-minute singles?
"No... no there's
other ways to do it. there's other shadows you can find. you can still
be there. that was the thing i've had to learn recently. but it still gets
to me."
Do you ever
fear for the ill-effects of increased success on your mental health?
"Oh, yes,"
he exclaims, his mood strangely and suddenly lifting. "Thank you, yes."
Later that
afternoon, as the light begins to fail, Thom Yorke appears to have returned
to a more balanced state and almost rhetorically enquires, "I don't think
this has been about moaning, do you?" pulling an "urgh" face when his band
mates invite him down to the beer garden of a local pub for some light
tea-time refreshment, he wanders off instead in the direction of the studio
to continue work on the b-sides for paranoid android.
As the others
wend their way through the winding country lanes on the way to the hostelry,
the talk turns to the fact that their frontman seems to be bearing so much
intolerable weight on his shoulders.
"It's weird
to see the public representation of Thom," ventures Jonny Greenwood after
a time, "because it's quite different. I find Thom to be very affectionate
and child-like."
"Yeah," his
brother adds, "but we don't draw the curtains of our bedrooms at night
when we're going to sleep and see all these people staring up at the window.
We don't have to deal with that. it's different graduations of stress,
I suppose. What's important to him is, if he can have two different personas,
it's a way of protecting himself."
"Well, I shared
a room with him for four years," selway laughs, before tellingly adding,
"and that's not the man in the interviews."
Deeply weird
bunch, Radiohead. Insular, posh, irrationally paranoid, yet capable of
creating achingly beautiful songs resplendent with mind-warping sonic tricks.
They might just have the potential to rechisel the granite face of rock
music, if their new-found prog edge doesn't devour them or they don't disintegrate
in the process. God help them if they ever get into proper drugs.
"Us on hard
drugs? That would be horrible," Thom Yorke had stated earlier, in a lighter
mood. "We'd probably end up sounding like Bryan Adams."
06/1997
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