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Mandy
Lieutenant
posted April 12, 2001 00:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Mandy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm afraid to get caught in the cross-fire. Mods: don't get so defensive. Listen to what the others have to say. If they're being stupid, ignore them. Everyone else: don't be so hard on the mods. They're just trying to do their job.

Camren
Lt. Cmdr.
posted April 12, 2001 00:47     Click Here to See the Profile for Camren   Click Here to Email Camren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are you talking about?

Red_Wacker
Lt. Cmdr.
posted April 12, 2001 00:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Red_Wacker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HuH?

Indi
Commodore
posted April 12, 2001 00:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Indi   Click Here to Email Indi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any publicity is good publicity, as long as they spell your name right.

where'sSaavik?
Fleet Captain
posted April 12, 2001 01:31     Click Here to See the Profile for where'sSaavik?   Click Here to Email where'sSaavik?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, perhaps this new person, Mandy is actually Lisa pretending to be Christian pretending to be Red Quacker pretending to be where'sSaavik? pretending to be Mandy.

you never know.

Don't worry Mandy. There's been an explosion of invective on the higher trafficed forums and the frustration from those areas is just making its way into here. It's a phase. After VOY's finale the board will quite down a little, the current batch of newbies will get used to the give and take, people will calm down. Criticism of the Mods/Admins runs in cycles. It won't be long until QSF turns back into a relative ghost town with only DEA and I. Me nitpicking and him rolling his eyes.

. . . ah, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a fat white guy who is threatened by change." -The Family Guy

Where is Saavik?

Red_Wacker
Lt. Cmdr.
posted April 12, 2001 01:36     Click Here to See the Profile for Red_Wacker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Theres a saying that goes something like this "He who doesn't change dies."

LizardLaugh
Admiral
posted April 12, 2001 01:41     Click Here to See the Profile for LizardLaugh   Click Here to Email LizardLaugh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's right...

LizardLaugh -- all one word. I will also answer to 'LL' and 'Liz'.

Saavik -- lol. I hope that one day soon you are one of us....MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Mandy -- don't worry about it, we live for this stuff

DEAverification
Fleet Admiral
posted April 12, 2001 02:07     Click Here to See the Profile for DEAverification   Click Here to Email DEAverification     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually I personally like this recent change in the atmosphere of Suggestions+. For the first time in a good while, this forum is a vast landscape of serious debate and interesting conversations that means a lot to all of us. I've been very disappointed at TNZ as of late, which is having a spell of diverse sexual innuendo, far to extreme political debates, the general anti-American sentiment.

Here we have still have real discussion with well educated people in every corner that don't need to say 'fuck you' every post to get a point across..

Indi
Commodore
posted April 12, 2001 02:33     Click Here to See the Profile for Indi   Click Here to Email Indi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
R_W
quote:
Theres a saying that goes something like this "He who doesn't change dies."

But oh my friends and oh my foes, it makes a lovely light.

StarMan
Rear Admiral
posted April 12, 2001 03:46     Click Here to See the Profile for StarMan   Click Here to Email StarMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's an old saying: "Don't put all your chickens in one basket."

No sorry, its "Don't put all your eggs in one basket."

However, that has little impact on this discussion. Interpret it as you will.

originally posted by Mandy:

quote:
I'm afraid to get caught in the cross-fire. Mods: don't get so defensive. Listen to what the others have to say. If they're being stupid, ignore them. Everyone else: don't be so hard on the mods. They're just trying to do their job.
First, let me say I share your fear of the fighting. It can be a dangerous and potentially fatal exercise to traverse this forum. But for people like myself, that fear, that edge makes it worthwhile. Without the risk involved there is no pleasure to be taken from any of it.

But wait, as I look deeper into your post I see you are trying to stay on the fence. Stay neutral! You must understand that there are to be no compromises or open hands of peace in this sordid affair. Since it's inception there has remained one, undeviating constant on this BBS: moderators vs normals.

The moderators are not your friends, make sure you understand that now. They are the sworn enemy who must be knocked down from their pedestals. Look around, do you think we'd have half the problems we do now if they weren't in our midst? Their authority is not required, but they impose their reigme upon us innocent cyber-dwellers.

Say no to moderators, Mandy. Spit in their faces and curse every decree they try to hand down to you.

Moderators, self appointed guardians of the BBS. Hmph...

[This message has been edited by StarMan (edited April 12, 2001).]

Red_Wacker
Lt. Cmdr.
posted April 12, 2001 03:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Red_Wacker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DEAverification:
Here we have still have real discussion with well educated people in every corner that don't need to say 'fuck you' every post to get a point across..

That was uncalled for.

DEAverification
Fleet Admiral
posted April 12, 2001 04:07     Click Here to See the Profile for DEAverification   Click Here to Email DEAverification     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fell free to send it to the complaint department...

Do you need directions on where to speak? ;)

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    DEAverification :P

DrWho
Commodore
posted April 12, 2001 05:29     Click Here to See the Profile for DrWho   Click Here to Email DrWho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Incoming...

Lex
Captain
posted April 12, 2001 14:44     Click Here to See the Profile for Lex   Click Here to Email Lex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Happen to the 123 Kid ?

CaptainPhil
Captain
posted April 12, 2001 15:18     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptainPhil   Click Here to Email CaptainPhil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He had to go back to school to learn his ABC's.

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phoenixfire
Fleet Captain
posted April 12, 2001 16:46     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenixfire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lex:
What Happen to the 123 Kid ?

Interesting, the Gen. Disc. troll disappears the same time Red_Wacker appears.

Trident
Commander
posted April 12, 2001 19:02     Click Here to See the Profile for Trident     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mandy:
I'm afraid to get caught in the cross-fire. Mods: don't get so defensive. Listen to what the others have to say. If they're being stupid, ignore them. Everyone else: don't be so hard on the mods. They're just trying to do their job.

This is no warzone. There were a few flames, but nothing major.

phoenixfire
Fleet Captain
posted April 12, 2001 19:16     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenixfire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure, but that's probably how TNZ started out.

Trident
Commander
posted April 12, 2001 19:31     Click Here to See the Profile for Trident     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TNZ fizzled out. Now TNZ is nothing more than a link to various porn sites. Christian must be proud to preside over such a place. The only interesting forums left are QS&F and sometimes Miscellaneous.

The Line
Commander
posted April 13, 2001 15:34     Click Here to See the Profile for The Line     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mandy:
Mods: don't get so defensive. Listen to what the others have to say. If they're being stupid, ignore them. Everyone else: don't be so hard on the mods. They're just trying to do their job.

Thank you so very much! You've solved all our problems with your crafty mediation.

quote:
I'm afraid to get caught in the cross-fire.

Then stay out of here.

Lightning
Captain
posted April 13, 2001 15:44     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning   Click Here to Email Lightning     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be nice

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LizardLaugh
Admiral
posted April 13, 2001 16:09     Click Here to See the Profile for LizardLaugh   Click Here to Email LizardLaugh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Trident:
TNZ fizzled out. Now TNZ is nothing more than a link to various porn sites. Christian must be proud to preside over such a place. The only interesting forums left are QS&F and sometimes Miscellaneous.


TNZ goes though cycles. Read through the old threads. Sometimes it is full of nothing but interesting discussion, sometimes it is full of sex threads. LAst sex phase was back in August. I guess people are getting horny again.

In its early days, it was all debates over religion and homosexuality. Later it was politics. If goes through cycles. In a few weeks, there won't be any sex threads. Everyone will be on to something new.

oh, and phoenixfire TNZ was created specifically for heated debate and topics not appropriate to Misc. It was loud and boisterous in there from the beginning. It wasn't meant to be tea and crumpets by design. It has evolved and changed over time -- again, it is cyclical. Flame wars and sex threads come and go, the interesting debate is a constant.

The Line
Commander
posted April 13, 2001 16:24     Click Here to See the Profile for The Line     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lightning:
Be nice


I am being nice. My advice was sound.

CaptainPhil
Captain
posted April 13, 2001 21:12     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptainPhil   Click Here to Email CaptainPhil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes LL we are getting horny again very horny. And this is me happy to see you.

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CaptainPhil-Title= Master of Smilie's

Reaperman
Lt. Cmdr.
posted April 14, 2001 18:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Reaperman   Click Here to Email Reaperman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mandy:
I'm afraid to get caught in the cross-fire. Mods: don't get so defensive. Listen to what the others have to say. If they're being stupid, ignore them. Everyone else: don't be so hard on the mods. They're just trying to do their job.

War is inevitable when the fascistic overlords of the BBS and their 'soulless minions of orthodoxy' try to supress freedom of thought and speech.
Choose your side in the bloody struggle that is to come.

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'But with very nice borders.' - Dr Frankiln

Zeke
Commander
posted April 14, 2001 19:40     Click Here to See the Profile for Zeke   Click Here to Email Zeke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Trident:
The only interesting forums left are QS&F and sometimes Miscellaneous.

And SF&F, lest we forget.

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Go to Five-Minute Voyager and we'll stop staring at you

Catatonic Piano
Commander
posted April 14, 2001 20:36     Click Here to See the Profile for Catatonic Piano   Click Here to Email Catatonic Piano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Threads in TNZ seem to be a lot more prone to mutation than threads in other forums. I've noticed that most "popular" threads have diverted away from the original topic at least to some extent by the 15th or 20th post... Take a look at the IHOP thread, who would have guessed such an innocuous topic could turn into a raging flame war, or the "Your prayers..." discussion, which quickly transformed into a debate on the significance of prayer and the differences between deistic and theistic interpretations of religion.

Looking back over old posts from time to time, I haven't really noticed any decline in thread quality between now and say a year ago. There have been a lot of new people lately, it might just take a while for us to find a "niche" on the board and for things to get interesting again.

The Line
Commander
posted April 14, 2001 21:35     Click Here to See the Profile for The Line     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Reaperman:
War is inevitable when the fascistic overlords of the BBS and their 'soulless minions of orthodoxy' try to supress freedom of thought and speech.
Choose your side in the bloody struggle that is to come.


Right on, and no staying on the fence for you reg posters who wanna get in good with the mods. Our first move is gonna be to chop the fence down and into bits.

Rob Hal
Admiral
posted April 14, 2001 23:25     Click Here to See the Profile for Rob Hal   Click Here to Email Rob Hal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Trident:
The only interesting forums left are QS&F and sometimes Miscellaneous.

You know, we also have Trek Forums on this board too...

CaptianHowdy
Commander
posted April 14, 2001 23:42     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptianHowdy   Click Here to Email CaptianHowdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And those deal with Trek stuff right. *walking slowly backwards out of this thread*

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Shake your Booty.

The Line
Commander
posted April 15, 2001 00:27     Click Here to See the Profile for The Line     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trek is supposed to be watched not talked about. Hate to break it to ya but it's also being canceled this summer. Say sianara to another series.

Jethro Elvis
Lt. Cmdr.
posted April 15, 2001 00:48     Click Here to See the Profile for Jethro Elvis   Click Here to Email Jethro Elvis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Getting kinda bitter, aren't you, Line?

Yer Pal,
Jethro (Mr Happy) Elvis

The Line
Commander
posted April 15, 2001 01:27     Click Here to See the Profile for The Line     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jethro Elvis:
Getting kinda bitter, aren't you, Line?

Yer Pal,
Jethro (Mr Happy) Elvis


What do you want, a cookie?

Yer Pal,
The (sorry all we have is oatmeal raisin) Line

CaptianHowdy
Commander
posted April 15, 2001 02:18     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptianHowdy   Click Here to Email CaptianHowdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I do want a cookie.

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Shake your Booty.

Rob Hal
Admiral
posted April 15, 2001 03:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Rob Hal   Click Here to Email Rob Hal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Line:
Trek is supposed to be watched not talked about.

Well this is a Star Trek Discussion board, so you can just leave now.

phoenixfire
Fleet Captain
posted April 15, 2001 18:53     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenixfire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Line:
Trek is supposed to be watched not talked about.

Why? Is it a secret?

CaptainPhil
Captain
posted April 16, 2001 02:06     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptainPhil   Click Here to Email CaptainPhil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could be. For a price that is.

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I must go down to the seas again,
to the lonely sea and the sky,
and all I ask is a Tall Ship,
and a star to steer her by. John Masefield

Trident
Commander
posted April 16, 2001 13:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Trident     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
In its early days, it was all debates over religion and homosexuality. Later it was politics. If goes through cycles. In a few weeks, there won't be any sex threads. Everyone will be on to something new.

Something new, Detective? I thought you said it went in cycles. This means we'll be going back to debates over religion and homosexuality. Nothing new, just the old topics rehashed over and over and over and over again. As I said, TNZ has fizzled out.

The Line
Commander
posted April 16, 2001 19:21     Click Here to See the Profile for The Line     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rob Hal:
Well this is a Star Trek Discussion board, so you can just leave now.

Not all of it is a Star Trek discussion board. It's easy, I just stay away from the parts where it is one.

Indi
Commodore
posted April 17, 2001 04:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Indi   Click Here to Email Indi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
catatonic Peni..er piano
quote:
Threads in TNZ seem to be a lot more prone to mutation than threads in other forums. I've noticed that most "popular" threads have diverted away from the original topic at least to some extent by the 15th or 20th post... Take a look at the IHOP thread, who would have guessed such an innocuous topic could turn into a raging flame war,

It always amazes me the hypocrital pinheads who run around crying "bad flame war bad flame war" while at the same time running from thread to thread throwing little flame bombs.

Is it an act or are you really this duplicitous IRL.

T'Bonz
Commodore
posted April 17, 2001 07:32     Click Here to See the Profile for T'Bonz   Click Here to Email T'Bonz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HA ha ha...good post...you have a way with words

T'Bonz pictures little gremlins running around with little bomblets...

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Worf NOT of Borg: "Assimilate THIS!"

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