posted April 11, 2001 00:21               

I find it odd that someone new would be all that interested in the politics. I find the fact that they would bother to register at a Trek board and never even talk about Star Trek even more puzzling.

Care to enlighten me Trident? The Line? The two of you seem mighty obsessed with Red Quacker, especially considering you weren't even here when all of the Quacker related stuff happened. You guys seem to complain alot about BBS administration....yet you really haven't been here long enough to form any real opinions, as evidenced by the clueless nature of some of your posts. Neilson, tshrike and phoenixfire do the same, but they actually post in on topic discussions, so I am less inclined to be suspicious. Never in my entire year hanging out at the BBS have I seen so many new people obsessed with board politics. I find it....odd. Hell, I have never seen any newbies all that obsessed with board politics period with the one exception of Red Quacker.

posted April 11, 2001 00:34            

Then I finally entered General Discussion (which is now GTD) and posted a few times there, but even then it wasn't often.

Next I went into the DS9 forum after seeing some DS9 reruns.

Then after all that, I FINALLY started looking and sometimes posting on the rest of the board. And now I must admit, I rarely post in VOY, DS9, or GTD. I mainly hang out in Q,S,& F, MISC, and TNZ. But it's mainly because I lost interest in Voyager and DS9 reruns are hard to come by. But I just like posting here, so these are the forums where my interest lies now.

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Are you a sexiest pig, of the female kind? If so you'll just love my sig. However, if you are a guy, or a guy without a sense of humor, you probably won't like it.

posted April 11, 2001 00:41               

What are you getting at, LL...

posted April 11, 2001 00:53            

The problem I find is that most of the threads are rehashes of old threads, and I find that someone in one of those old threads has said it much better than the new bunch has, and I have nothing better to add. I'd think that everyone who's been here a while must feel similarly.

I also admit that I enjoy the politics of the board. Probably for the same reasons I enjoy practicing law, enjoyed student government meetings run under Roberts Rules of Order, and like Star Fleet Battles. I do my best to point out things that interest me without flaming or hurting anyone's feelings, and I appreciate when the responses I get are thoughtful and not meant to harm my feelings as well.

I've really enjoyed your posts as well. Gotta go watch Voyager. See you later.

Minutes later: Just came back. Can't believe UPN delayed Voyager an hour to show a movie. Now I'm going to miss South Park!

posted April 11, 2001 01:09               

It's about time someone scored one for the home team... LizardLaugh, I love you, I really do...

posted April 11, 2001 01:12            

quote:

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Originally posted by Mxyztplk:
Dude. That was kind of lame. It's Tuesday, Voyager and South Park aren't on tonight.

Klptzyxm!

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lol. You've right that was lame of me. I can't believe I forgot what day it is. I'm getting fairly senile I guess. So, tonight is Battlebots then. Thanks for filling me in.

posted April 11, 2001 01:18               

"Oh Jack, Jack! Reverend Daniels! Please direct me to your carafe of medicinal elixir on yon veranda, It's such a nice sunset, and I hope to spend it in a rocker here at your side.

*The rev. Daniels slowly points a finger, just before he drifts off to sleep.*

posted April 11, 2001 01:36               

I don't know if I'd go so far as to suspect that Trident and The Line are actually RQ in sheep's clothing. But perhaps Mxyztplk is correct to imply that RQ's website is inspiring people to come over here. If so, he's actually helping Christian out by increasing traffic and the number of customers to click on those ads.

Hmm . . . this whole Red Quacker nonsense has actually lead to more people on the bbs, more traffic, more hits, more revenue, hmm . . . no, it couldn't be, could it? Is Red Quacker really Christian in disguise? Were all those ridiculous diatribes only a ruse to create a controversy as a cover to create a website to direct posters to the bbs? Is it all a conspiracy? No, no, it can't be! It can't all be a lie! Nooooooooooooo!!!!

And to think, I thought RQ was actually Daystrom. Wow, was I wrong or what? Sorry about that buddy. Maybe I could buy you a beer or something and we could shoot the bull and make up . . . but wait, no, it can't be, could Daystrom be Christian too? No! No! NOOOOOOOOOO!!! All that trouble with Daystrom was just a ruse, a test-run of the effectiveness of stirring up controversy and using extended bans to incite the membership and increase traffic. There never was a Daystrom he was just a long term plant, a deep cover alias, created by Christian only to be used years down the road in his devious schemes. The dastardly conspiracy goes deeper than I could have ever imagined!

Now, maybe I can begin to fathom Saleel Majeed's suspicions about the board and the Administration. Originally, since I never knew the guy, I didn't have any sympathy for his accusations, but now that I know the truth about Christian . . . wait . . . no, no, NOOOOOOOO!!!! It can't be, could it? Could Saleel Majeed be Christian too? Of course! After he left the bbs eventually exploded in popularity. There never was a Majeed. He was only a fictional character created by Christian in order to create drama on his fledgling network of sites!

Wow, I've got to hand it to you Christian, you are one deviously dastardly evil genius. All hail the Lex Luthor of Trekdom.

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posted April 11, 2001 06:42               

But I'm here for the Trek talk. I like talking Trek with other people who also like it.

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posted April 11, 2001 16:23               

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Never in my entire year hanging out at the BBS have I seen so many new people obsessed with board politics. I find it....odd.

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posted April 11, 2001 16:40            

I'm not at all surprised that people are posting less in the Trek forums in more in the "community-based" forums like Misc, TNZ, Ten Forward, and the political QS&F. I barely ever post outside those forums now.

Lately, the Misc forum has been getting pretty dull, and even TNZ is starting to run out of discussions that haven't already been...discussed.

QS&F, on the other hand, always has some new hot topic. Of course there are topics rehashed by newbies (rank, FAQ basics, Red Quacker). All the Trek forums have the rehashes too, but they're usually the only conversation going on.

posted April 11, 2001 20:27            

quote:

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Originally posted by Trident:
Uh oh, I'd better not say anything bad about the board or I'll get called Red Quacker. Nice one. Maybe it will work on the line.

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posted April 11, 2001 20:48               

Tell me The Line, why you would bother to register at a Trek board, but never talk about Star Trek, and spend most of your time talking about the place is run and very little time actually participating? How would you know how well the policy is being implemented or not implemented if you never even participate where the policy applies?

Compliment me or not compliment me, it won't make draw any conclusions about you. I don't necessarily think you or anyone else is Quacks, but I don't think you guys are on the up and up either.

Instead of answering the questions posed, you have deflected me by laughing that I have accused you of being Quacks. I haven't. I am just presenting evidence, and everyone else is welcome to draw their own conclusions.

posted April 11, 2001 21:06            

quote:

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
I don't necessarily think you or anyone else is [b]Quacks, but I don't think you guys are on the up and up either.
[/B]

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posted April 11, 2001 21:13               

I�ve tried to post some intelligent threads to stimulate intelligent conversation, but they are largely ignored in favor of the sensational threads mentioned above. As such, I soon grew tired of the immaturity and lack of intelligent life exhibited in the ST forums and sought intelligent conversation elsewhere. Enter QS&F and some of the other �political� forums. The issues, while not always Trek related, are interesting, the conversation for the most part mature and intellectual, and quite frankly, it�s fascinating.

There it is, my $0.02 worth. Take it or leave it, I really don�t care.

To Infinity.....AND BEYOND.....

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He's Dead, Jim!
Mr. McCoy - The Enemy Within

posted April 11, 2001 21:29               

Maybe things will change now that the new episodes are starting to air. To be honest, I got the impression that people were really straining to come up with conversation topics. I mean really, how many times can we talk about Janeway's mood swings?

posted April 11, 2001 21:32               

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I want you to come out and say it. You are accusing me of being Red Quacker. After that you can compare IP addresses and quietly eat your crow pie. You will look foolish but it shows you have more balls than if you cautiously make inuendos.

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I am *not* accusing you of being Red Quacker. I am pointing out abnormal and suspicious behavior, just as *you* are doing with the mods. What brought you here anyway? You still haven't answered that question. Where did you hear about the board? What is leading you to make such broad generalizations about a community that you know nothing about? I don't know who you are, but I *don't* think you are just some average Trek fan who stumbled on to this board. If you want to come here to critique, prepare to get some in return. If you want to challege the questionable actions of administrators, be prepared to have your own questionable actions challenged in return.

posted April 11, 2001 21:34            

quote:

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Originally posted by wraitheleven:
Ever notice how it's mostly the Lt. Cmdrs and the Commanders that seem to echo my sentiment. My impression is, we all came on "board" about the same time and were all "turned off" at about the same time. Hence the reason why we're here instead of posting in the other forums.

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posted April 11, 2001 21:40            

quote:

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
I am *not* accusing you of being Red Quacker

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How thoughtful.

quote:

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I am pointing out abnormal and suspicious behavior, just as *you* are doing with the mods.

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Does this mean the mods are really Red Quacker in disguise?

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What brought you here anyway?

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It's called a web browser.

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Where did you hear about the board?

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It's linked to by just about every Trek page on the internet. Should I have asked for permission before posting here?

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What is leading you to make such broad generalizations about a community that you know nothing about?

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What broad generalizations? You're making broad generalizations about me.

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I don't know who you are, but I *don't* think you are just some average Trek fan who stumbled on to this board.

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Thanks again. I wouldn't want to be some average Trek fan who stumbles everywhere.

quote:

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If you want to come here to critique, prepare to get some in return.

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I am prepared. For the official board apologist, you get awfully touchy. Might want to work on that.

quote:

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If you want to challege the questionable actions of administrators, be prepared to have your own questionable actions challenged in return.

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posted April 11, 2001 21:43            

quote:

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Originally posted by Neilson:
I can juggle, and I came here via TrekToday. I came to TrekToday via CNN. I came to CNN via WashingtonPost. I came to WashingtonPost via Netscape. I came to catch Series V fever.

I'm still waiting.

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I think the mods would like an official report written up about how you came to download Netscape and buy a computer.

posted April 11, 2001 21:50            

quote:

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Originally posted by Neilson:
The Line: I liked you from the first post I saw 'bout how you were new here but knew the score. You are a hoot. I'm enjoying this witty repartee between you and LL very much. You're both pretty smart cookies.

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posted April 11, 2001 22:08               

quote:

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How thoughtful.

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I have been accused of being thoughtful.

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Does this mean the mods are really Red Quacker in disguise?

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Not yet Then again, none of them seem to have an obsession with Quacks either.

quote:

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It's called a web browser.

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Really? I had no idea.

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It's linked to by just about every Trek page on the internet. Should I have asked for permission before posting here?

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Nope. We aren't the NAZI's you seem to think we are.

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What broad generalizations? You're making broad generalizations about me.

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No, not really. I have merely pointed out a few things which are true.

1) You have made some broad (and false) generlizations about the board and the administration.

2) You have never posted in the Trek forums

3) You post a hell of alot about board politics

4) You have an odd fascination with Red Quacker

5) You haven't been here very long.

quote:

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Thanks again. I wouldn't want to be some average Trek fan who stumbles everywhere.

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Does the average Trek fan stumble everywhere? I am a klutz myself, but I wouldn't make the inference that all Trek fans are clumsy.

quote:

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I am prepared. For the official board apologist, you get awfully touchy. Might want to work on that.

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Good. You seem rather touchy yourself. Like to dish, but don't like to taste?

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I will. Just tell me when I take questionable actions.

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I believe my suspicians about you so far have already been raised. I will keep you posted on anything else I dig up.

quote:

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I think the mods would like an official report written up about how you came to download Netscape and buy a computer.

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That won't be necessary

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Isn't it Curious how anyone who disagrees with the mods has some wretched ulterior motive? Just goes to show, the mods are flawless.

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another false generalization. Actually, some of my favorite people here are the most critical about the administration. Reno...Indi...Saavik...Twain. Who knows? I may grow to like you too.

posted April 11, 2001 22:13               

quote:

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Originally posted by Neilson:
I can juggle, and I came here via TrekToday. I came to TrekToday via CNN. I came to CNN via WashingtonPost. I came to WashingtonPost via Netscape. I came to catch Series V fever.

I'm still waiting.

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LOL

posted April 11, 2001 22:28               

quote:

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
This is the first time Wraith has ever posted in here that I have seen and s/he did it seem come here for the very reason this board is set up and doesn't particularly seem obsessed with the politics. I do appreciate your imput, btw Wraith.

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Thanks...I think

Actually, I have posted in QS&F before. I do tend to limit my postings to intelligent replies to intelligent conversations. Although occasionally I do succumb to a bit of levity.

And, in an effort to dispel your confusion, I�m male, 28, and married, w/ 2 boys (ages 5 & 3) and a girl due in June. (Yes, I am already indoctrinating them on the ways of the Trek) My wife watches Voyager with me in hopes that our daughter will be a Trekie like her dad.

I do appreciate all that you Mod�s do. I don�t think that it�s your fault that the Trek boards have degenerated into immaturity; I think it�s more a function of boredom than anything else.

And, just so you know, you�re one of my favorite Mod�s Liz.

To Infinity.....AND BEYOND.....

posted April 11, 2001 22:55            

1) You have made some broad (and false) generlizations about the board and the administration.

You have been unable to produce any. If I do it so often, why is it so difficult to produce them?

2) You have never posted in the Trek forums

So what? They're boring! I can post anywhere I please.

3) You post a hell of alot about board politics

Yes I do. I like to! Heaven forbid I do something I like. You like posting a lot about board politics too. Don't give me that "I'm a mod" nonsense. You're just a regular mod for the Misc. forum. You don't have to be here any more than I do. You do this because you like to. Just like me.

4) You have an odd fascination with Red Quacker

I find Red Quacker fascinating. It's not so odd, though. You seemed more than a bit obsessed with him while he was here. You replied to almost all of his threads.

5) You haven't been here very long.

posted April 11, 2001 23:03               

quote:

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. Even famously critical folk like Saavik, Indi and Reno didn't start out here yammering about the policy before actually participating the discussion.

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posted April 11, 2001 23:31               

quote:

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You have been unable to produce any. If I do it so often, why is it so difficult to produce them?

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You never asked me to. I have pointed out several incidents within threads where you have done this, but you always seem to ignore the comments. I will produce some of your false statements/generalizations about the board if you would like.

quote:

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So what? They're boring! I can post anywhere I please.

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Why did you register here in the first place?

quote:

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Yes I do. I like to! Heaven forbid I do something I like. You like posting a lot about board politics too. Don't give me that "I'm a mod" nonsense. You're just a regular mod for the Misc. forum. You don't have to be here any more than I do. You do this because you like to. Just like me.

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Acutally, all of the mods are expected to keep up with things in QSF. Some do, some do, some don't, some do but don't post. I have been here a while, grown to care about the place, the community. That is why I have interests here. What is your interest here? You don't particularly care about Trek, I don't see you getting involved in any non-political discussion. Why do you care how the board is run, you said yourself, it is boring? What kind of person involves himself with a place he considers boring?

quote:

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I find Red Quacker fascinating. It's not so odd, though. You seemed more than a bit obsessed with him while he was here. You replied to almost all of his threads.

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Key words -- while he was here. I found Quacks entertaining and fun to spar with. I wouldn't mind seeing him return even, though I probably wouldn't reply to his posts unless he had something new going on besides the 'evil admin' shctick. I do think he is overrated. However, since he left, I hadn't given him a whole lot of thought until I noticed all of this newbie fascination with him. I was here when Quacks made his apearance. I got a few laughs out of him, thought he was entertaining, then later annoying, now I am pretty much indifferent, but I witnessed him first hand. You weren't even here...or were you? You started a thread demanding he be let back, yet you weren't even here and (ostensibly) don't even know the guy. You showed up one day and almost immediately started making comments about policy and Quacks.

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Yes, the greatest of all BBS sins. I'm a newbie. I haven't earned my right to speak in the Questions forum, hmmm? You are an elitist mod. That may be a broad generalization, but it sure ain't false.[

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posted April 11, 2001 23:40               

* Stands and applauds *

Score:

The Line: 1
LizardLaugh: 2

posted April 12, 2001 00:35               

quote:

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Indi -- of course...I mean that in the nicest possible way.

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posted April 12, 2001 01:41               

Man, o-man! I do have a lot of them! I'm chuckling about it now because most were either: A) about rank; which got me labeled an obsessor, when I was actually fascinated with so many other's obsession. And B) threads on systemic changes in the operation of the board. In this persuit, I've been largely banging my head against a wall. Items have been discounted without any kind of investigation or intellegent discussion of alternatives. And further, while I somewhat can't help myself. Like I said, I'm an engineer, born and breed. I come here for fun, not to do the kind of shit I get paid for.

You know: When I first came here, it was only with the intention of resolving three mysteries: a) standard of sentience, b) bits in a quad, c) Enterprise "H".

BTW: On whatever old post. I said "mensching" when I meant "kvetching".

posted April 12, 2001 02:22            

I have in the past week posted in the Trek Gaming forum, and post regularly in:

Gen Disc.
Future of Trek
Trek Tech

and occassionally in:

Misc
Gen Sci Fi
The "news" forum as i like to call it

I never read the Voyager or TOS forums...

rarely read the TNG forum...

More often read DS9 since its my fav...

posted April 12, 2001 02:45               

Other things, like reviewing server capacity are totally doable, and done all the time, and perhaps need to be done here.

On an ancillary point: Conditions tonight appear similar to what I belive they were like two weeks ago; when I piled up posts right out of the gate - Mostly just the "hard-core" members working a few threads on just a few forums. Loading is more-or less right-now (at least for me and my cable modem). And if the posts are mostly short (which many of tonight's most definitely have not been), it's like a chat room. Bam-Bam; you can almost hear everyone talking at the same time.

posted April 12, 2001 05:44               

I can't get into the other rank lounges, and I am *not* banned. How would I go about editing a post I made in say...the commodore's lounge? More to the point, how did Quacks manage to edit a post in the lower decks with a higher rank and being banned?

Looks like there is more here than meets the eye...

posted April 12, 2001 13:52               

quote:

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Originally posted by StarCallan:
So... how do I fit into all of this?

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You're the second shooter... on the grassy knoll.

In all seriousness, LL is making some good points here. I keep following this thread, and the more and more it goes on, the deeper and deeper hole she is digging for you guys. I know that you think all of the sudden she's on a wild goose chase or "just another MOD power trip" but there's very obviously somethign up.

posted April 12, 2001 15:47               

quote:

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So that means one of the admins must have done it?

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posted April 12, 2001 17:43               

Very, very clever Quacks. If you are reading this (and I am sure you are), I must say I am very impressed.

edit -- phoenixfire, to answer your point about why not the commander's lounge.

1. Did he ever actually make any posts there? If so, would someone of commander rank mind checking for me.

2. If yes, were they edited? If not, why would Quacks go to the trouble of going through the newbie lounge?

Good questions, let's see if we can answer them.... Good thinking phoenixfire, that never occured to me until you mentioned it.

oh...and as to doing it only in the lower decks...having it planned all along. I think you might be right. Getting someone to 'accidentily' resurrect an old post is an iffy proposition. Planting someone there purposefully is not Alot easier to register a new username, than hope a commander will ressurect an old post.

posted April 12, 2001 19:01            

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
oh...and as to doing it only in the lower decks...having it planned all along. I think you might be right. Getting someone to 'accidentily' resurrect an old post is an iffy proposition. Planting someone there purposefully is not Alot easier to register a new username, than hope a commander will ressurect an old post.

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An interesting _story_...
Either accuse me of a crime or shut your trap. You got nothin' on me, copper. _Nothin'_.

posted April 12, 2001 19:02               

Ok....The Line...Trident....where are you guys? It is after 18:00 GMT....

edit -- speak of the devil

posted April 12, 2001 19:14               

quote:

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Originally posted by Trident:
An interesting _story_...
Either accuse me of a crime or shut your trap. You got nothin' on me, copper. _Nothin'_.

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Nothing against thre rules about speculation....should I be *gasp* censored?

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It doesn't make any difference if RQ edited posts in the Commander lounge. The Lower Decks get a lot more traffic than any others. It only makes sense that he'd go fishing in there instead.

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Why only edit one post in one lounge? Then one post of the 290 something already on the board? If I wanted to get noticed by my edited posts, I would edit LOTS of posts. Not just two posts. I would increase my chances by editing posts in *both* lounges. Mightly convenient of you to have discovered Quacks so quickly....

posted April 12, 2001 19:18            

quote:

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Originally posted by Trident:
An interesting _story_...
Either accuse me of a crime or shut your trap. You got nothin' on me, copper. _Nothin'_.

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posted April 12, 2001 19:30            

quote:

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
Why only edit one post in one lounge? Then one post of the 290 something already on the board? If I wanted to get noticed by my edited posts, I would edit LOTS of posts. Not just two posts. I would increase my chances by editing posts in *both* lounges. Mightly convenient of you to have discovered [b]Quacks so quickly....

[/B]

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posted April 12, 2001 20:09            

quote:

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
how were you given very specific instructions?

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What's wrong, can't you enter the lower decks? No wonder you're so clueless about the matter. RQ edited his post a few times _after_ I resurrected it, giving the name and date of the Misc. thread he wanted to be bumped. DEA, being as humorous as ever, wiped it out and left

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what a loser...

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I see stupid people.
DEAverification :P
[This message has been edited by DEAverification (edited March 29, 2001).]

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posted April 12, 2001 20:34            

quote:

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
*beats [b]DEA over the head*

No, I don't have access to the lower decks. HEy! Why don't you email me and tell me what it said [/B]

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posted April 12, 2001 21:13            

quote:

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
I don't have [b]Quack's email address. Do you?[/B]

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posted April 12, 2001 21:48            

quote:

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
aw shucks...an email from you would just make my day though

An email from both you and [b]Quacks (oh, and The Line while we are at it) would just make my entire week.[/B]

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posted April 12, 2001 22:04               

Trident -- maybe if you sent me an email, I'd leave you alone for a bit? I know you have to go in a couple of hours, so waddya say?

posted April 12, 2001 22:13               

Normally trolls and troublemakers are dealt with and then sink into obscurity.

This person keeps hanging on as a topic. For the life of me, I can't figure why. It's like - who the fuck cares?

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T'Bonz of Borg: "Resistance is illogical!"

posted April 12, 2001 22:19            

quote:

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
Trident -- maybe if you sent me an email, I'd leave you alone for a bit? I know you have to go in a couple of hours, so waddya say?

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posted April 12, 2001 23:48               

quote:

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
*beats DEA over the head*

No, I don't have access to the lower decks. HEy! Why don't you email me and tell me what it said

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Sorry dear, it wasn't very interesting anyway..

What Trident means by specific directions is Quack told him in detail how to change the number of days threads are listed in Misc, the title of the thread he wanted resurrected - Probably because he already made his return post and asked him to post it effectively bringing it to the top. I rained on Quack's parade by editing his posts and closing both threads, which of course ends all editing possibilities.

posted April 13, 2001 00:14               

But my conscience said, "No, Zeke! You must not do this -- it would be spamming! And while I've got your attention, delete the evil Napster and set all your mp3s free!" And so I followed the dictates of my conscience, and did not make that meaningless post.

Aren't you glad I did that?

posted April 13, 2001 00:29               

Thanks LL.

And I thought RW was on a 24hr. ban? Whoever he/she is, they're also a worm for not coming forward when the joke was over.

posted April 13, 2001 01:24               

quote:

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Originally posted by tshrike:
Zeke spends a lot of time spreading his/her spam.

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I'm all man, thank you. Now is this a bona fide accusation, or are you just answering sarcasm with sarcasm? If you think I've been spamming lately, do tell me -- I'll laugh in your face, but I'll listen.

posted April 13, 2001 02:05            

quote:

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Originally posted by LizardLaugh:
Hey! you are back! Thought you'd left for the day

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Good evening(?), Detective.

posted April 13, 2001 13:04               

And here, I thought Questions, Suggestions & Feedback was a simple little section with typical responses from board users. Then, I come to find that you all have a conspiracy, a "charismatic" villain, political intrigue, and a female chief of investigations.

If this were anywhere else..

But, since this is a Trek forum, you should keep good records and secure a Holo-Novel deal. Good night(?) everybody, 6am = beddy bye time for yours truly.

[This message has been edited by Starlight Knight (edited April 14, 2001).]

posted April 13, 2001 15:20            

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You never asked me to. I have pointed out several incidents within threads where you have done this, but you always seem to ignore the comments. I will produce some of your false statements/generalizations about the board if you would like.

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Yes, by all means, produce something for once! Other than more false generalizations that is.

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Why did you register here in the first place?

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Why else? So I could post. You seem to be having trouble accepting the fact that I can post.

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Acutally, all of the mods are expected to keep up with things in QSF. Some do, some do, some don't, some do but don't post.

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In other words, some like QSF, and some don't like QSF. You mods aren't as different from we posters as you'd like to think.

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What is your interest here? You don't particularly care about Trek, I don't see you getting involved in any non-political discussion. Why do you care how the board is run, you said yourself, it is boring?

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I am correct in saying the Trek forums are boring. It's the other forums I'm interested in. Coincidentally, those are the forums I post in. What a paradox I am...

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Key words -- while he was here. I found Quacks entertaining and fun to spar with. I witnessed him first hand. You weren't even here...or were you?

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I wasn't here, so how could I talk about him until after he left? Shall I rent a time machine and discuss him along with the rest of you? Would you approve of that?

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You started a thread demanding he be let back, yet you weren't even here and (ostensibly) don't even know the guy.

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Wrong. I offered his return as the solution to several problems. No moderator has ever answered them.

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You showed up one day and almost immediately started making comments about policy and Quacks.

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Another false generalization.

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elitest? No. We were all new once. We just didn't do the strange things you are doing.

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Strange things, you mean like commenting on policy and offering helpful suggestions? In other words, these are strange things for newbies to be doing since we haven't yet earned the right to speak. Elitist mod.

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I don't have anything against newbies.

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Yeah right, I'll bet some of your best friends are newbies.

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I like new people, new blood, new minds.

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Especially new blood.

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You must have me confused with Quagalo.

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Well, he does have several accounts.

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It is all of the other things COMBINED with the fact that you are new which present the paradox.

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I get it, it's not the false accusations and meaningless drivel, it's when you combine them all. Garbage in, garbage out.

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It isn't that I dislike newbies or think critcism is wrong or that Red Quacker should stay banned, it is the fact that I can't pass up a good paradox.

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You have yet to explain how I'm a paradox.

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A philosopher once said 'when you find a contradiction, always check your premises'. You are a contradiction. I am checking

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posted April 13, 2001 23:05            

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A typical Day In Trek BBS. That pretty much sums it up

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posted April 14, 2001 01:02               

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From the sublime to the rediculous, there is only one step - Napoleon Bonaparte

posted April 14, 2001 02:13               

If anyone has seen any constructive, non-beligerant posts from The Line. Please cite them here. I can't remember any.

posted April 14, 2001 03:21               

The Line -- I'll get back to you when I return from Mexico. Enjoy my absence

Yours Truly,

posted April 14, 2001 03:55               

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Don't worry [b]Starlight Knight. Its just another day on the TrekBBS...[/B]

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posted April 14, 2001 14:06            

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Originally posted by tshrike:
Enjoy Mexico, LL. It'll be a quiet board without you.

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posted April 14, 2001 15:38            

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I wouldn't count on it. She's the one who's been keeping everyone under control lately.

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Under control? If by that you mean that she's been laying down the law in QS&F, I don't think so. If you mean that she's been directing the course of the threads then you're right. This thread here, and many of the other threads regarding insenuations of double identities and conspiracies have been guided by her directly or indirectly. Without LL, I think things will grow a little more quiet (read, boring) around here this weekend.

posted April 14, 2001 21:29            

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I don't see why a select few hate this board and still come here. Anyway, I don't have any problems with the board (except for one moderator.)

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posted April 15, 2001 00:43            

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The point is, TL: You seem to have an excess of dirty laundry. Not yet potty trained perhaps?

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Once you got a freedom you don't ever give it up, you know what I'm saying, I bet you do.

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Once you got a freedom you don't ever give it up, you know what I'm saying, I bet you do.

Misspelling ridiculous now that is rediculous.

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Do you know your rants..sound like Red quackers..and if you are him i will have to kill you now

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posted April 15, 2001 06:29               

Oh, and pass me one too please.

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That was The Line. But I don't think the kid well learn his lesson that easy. But let me ask again: Does anyone recall any good, non-troll posts he made?

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posted April 16, 2001 14:09            

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And here, I thought Questions, Suggestions & Feedback was a simple little section with typical responses from board users. Then, I come to find that you all have a conspiracy, a "charismatic" villain, political intrigue, and a female chief of investigations.

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posted April 16, 2001 19:16            

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Hey, why didn't any of you other guys point this out? I suppose you'd let me walk around with spinach on my teeth too?

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posted April 17, 2001 19:39            

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As the crumbs on my qwerty well attest to; this is where I eat my dinner.

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posted April 17, 2001 20:19               

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Originally posted by Trident:
Maybe we should round up all the trolls and banish them to one forum where they can fight each other for our amusement. The Trek BBS Coliseum, if you will.

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Nah, then he'd be asking the cadets to get his popcorn and boxing gloves.

*Points to phoenixfire's post*

posted April 17, 2001 20:35            

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Nah, then he'd be asking the cadets to get his popcorn and boxing gloves.

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