Free Will?
These are actual conversations that I've had with christians I've met in IRC, Yahoo Chats, ect. These have not been edited in any way, and are here purely for your entertainment.

Heres a conversation I had with someone after encouraging an idiot to commit suicide.....

JD: read my website.
JD: its short
JD: and its helped people
JD: please take five minutes and read what i wrote there and think about it, please?
mrspiggy01012005: i did
JD: that was fast.
JD: well?
mrspiggy01012005: i speed read
JD: nice.
mrspiggy01012005: it true i had question in that to
JD: what's true?
mrspiggy01012005: on things u wrote
JD: well, what question
mrspiggy01012005: on jesus being reallyu
JD: ........are you going to ask me  a question
JD: or continue to act high
JD: o.O
mrspiggy01012005: u asked if jesus is god he is he never sin
JD: where did i ask tht
mrspiggy01012005: in between ur lne
mrspiggy01012005: lines of typing
JD: ...are you saying its what i MEANT but didnt say?
JD: im having trouble understanding what the hell your talking about
mrspiggy01012005: find jesus in ur bible
JD: you didnt read my website, did you.
mrspiggy01012005: i did
JD: what kind of things did i say
JD: what don't you agree with
JD: hello?
mrspiggy01012005: u say we have free will. God lets have it
JD: god cant be outside of time
JD: and give us free will
JD: because if he's outside of time he knows what will happen
JD: and that is all we can do.
mrspiggy01012005: he in time
mrspiggy01012005: he here with us right now
JD: he knows the future
JD: does he not?
mrspiggy01012005: he could see what we want might give us what we want
JD: he's all powerful.
mrspiggy01012005: he know when he wants end the world
JD: he can see the future, and know what we'll do
mrspiggy01012005: ye[p
JD: so
JD: how can we have free will
mrspiggy01012005: he gives it us
JD: ....
JD: are you an idiot?
JD: he cannot give us something that can not exist.
mrspiggy01012005: no i am doing 7 different things at once
JD: If god knows the future and is all powerful
JD: then we cannot have free will
JD: unless god didnt know the future.
JD: .....right? see what im getting at here?
mrspiggy01012005: ok whatever what u want believe
JD: its not a matter of belief
JD: its a matter of not being a fuckwitted idiot.
JD: blind faith is not a good thing to have,
JD: and you said you were part of a youth group?
JD: you are ENCOURAGING this blindness and stupidity that is destroying the world 

Well, she sure changed me. How can you argue with THAT kind of logic?

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Heres another converastion I had with someone I know over the internet

Homicidal Monk17: hey
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: heya
Homicidal Monk17: how r u?
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: good
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: workin on my site
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: www.geocities.com/homicidalnun/home.html
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: check itout
Homicidal Monk17: k
Homicidal Monk17: i saw dawn of teh dead
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: how was it
Homicidal Monk17: it was good
Homicidal Monk17: i just have to say not all christians are how u say
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: explain..
Homicidal Monk17: a perfect christian does all this bowing down to got and following him but no one is a perfect christian, i mean im a christian and i dont walk around telling everyone i dont pary all the time i dont love ppl who i dont think deserve it
Homicidal Monk17: i dont think god knows everything were going to do
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: your couterdictint he bible
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: in other words
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you're only hearing what you want to hear
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and filling in the rest with your imagination
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: god is omnipotent and outside of time, any preacher will tell you that
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: although those to concepts co=existing is impossible
Homicidal Monk17: no, i hear it all, i just dont beleive the bible is actually somethiung god had written, i believe its a story based on the truth that someone wrote ...but i do believe there is a god 
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: why
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: heather
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: the fucking bible
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: is the only connection we have to jsesus, god, anyone from them
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you cannot just believe something without any kind of base
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and you base your beliefs on the bible and at the same time say you dont believe it
Homicidal Monk17: yes u can
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: well you can
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: but that makes you a fucking idiot
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: who deserves whatever hell they believe in
Homicidal Monk17: it doesnt make me a fucking idiot
Homicidal Monk17: u cant judge a person by that jd
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: if you believe something with no base to it
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: that makes you an idiot
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: if you believe something you have made up to be the truth then truth be damned, you are an idiot.
Homicidal Monk17: thats like me saying because u believe in what u believe in then ur a fucking idiot now thats not fair is it?
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: no, 
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i gave a reason
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: to why believing osmething with no base makes you an idiot
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you're just calling names
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: giving no reason
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i gave reasons for hating christianity
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and i gave damned good ones and you have not defended your faith at all, no christians ever can
Homicidal Monk17: why i beleve in god is because there is a book about it and we didnt create ourselves 
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: micidal Monk17: no, i hear it all, i just dont beleive the bible is actually somethiung god had written, i believe its a story based on the truth that someone wrote
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you just said
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you dont believe god wrote it
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: so what if theres a book about it
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: theres a book about the government actually being lizards
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you believe that?
Homicidal Monk17: i dont beleive god himself wrote irt burt i do believe some one who followed him a family member maybe wrote it
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: god didnt have family members
Homicidal Monk17: jesus did
Homicidal Monk17: What I dispise most about christianity is that its all centered around fear....fear of satan..sin...hell...entertainment...swearing, sex, homosexuals,     
Homicidal Monk17: i dont like what u say there because thats a stero-type
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: no it isnt
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: its in the fucking bible
Homicidal Monk17: They scare little children into thinking that if you do these kinds of things, you are GOING TO HELL, NO QUESTIONS ASKED
Homicidal Monk17: and they never told me that
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: they often do
Homicidal Monk17: they said u could ask and he would forgive u
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: they told me that
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and they tell a lot of people that
Homicidal Monk17: but u cant say that they tell everyone that
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: how do you think the religion got started
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i didnt say that
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i said that they told people that
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: not everyone or some
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i didnt say either so my statement is true
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: learn to fucking read
Homicidal Monk17: well u still make stero-types
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you dont even know what a sterio type is
Homicidal Monk17: and thats not fair
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: yes it is
Homicidal Monk17: yes i do!
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and thats not a sterio type
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: fine what is a steriotype
Homicidal Monk17: no jd its not
Homicidal Monk17: its like saying all cheerleaders are blond and dumb and are always happy when thats not true
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: no i said
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: wat is a steriotype
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: not an example
Homicidal Monk17: an image of a certin group or type of person......
Homicidal Monk17: like a set image
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: right,
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and that wasnt a sterio type
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: so tell me
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: whats wrong about what ive said in that page
Homicidal Monk17: that is too a stereotype
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: so whats wrong
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: what have i said that is wrong
Homicidal Monk17: i dont frea sex and i dont fear swearing or homosexuals
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: thats not what i said
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i didnt say christians did
Homicidal Monk17: i dont fear sin hell or entertainment
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i said chiristianity teaches you to do that
Homicidal Monk17: no it doesnt
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: yes it does.
Homicidal Monk17: it doesnt teach u to fear them
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: they say
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: no sex before marriage,
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: homosexuality is wrong, stay away form it,
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: never sin, sinning is bad and will send you to hell,
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: dont do anything not christian, dont listen to heavy metal music, read your bible
Homicidal Monk17: no if u dont ask for forgiveness it can send u to hell
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: they do all of those things
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you have to be sorry
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: that is the stupidest fucking system 
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and hers a point
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: why would go dcreate us
Homicidal Monk17: and it says nothing about music
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: if he is perfect
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: YES IT FUCKING DOES, THEY BURN CDS AND PREACH AGAINST ROCK GROUPS ALL THE TIME
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: THEY SEND LETTERSR TO CITIES ASKING TO BAN BANDS
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: are you living under a rock?!
Homicidal Monk17: but god didnt tell them to do it!!!
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: why would a perfect being create something not perfect
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: yes he did
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: by creating us
Homicidal Monk17: those are just psycos
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and knowing the future
Homicidal Monk17: god said nothing about music
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: we dont have free will
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you are a simp
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: god said 
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: to hate sin,
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and not let people sin
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: they think bands sin
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: so they follow his word
Homicidal Monk17: no they dont
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: yes they do.
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: ANSWER
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: :
Homicidal Monk17: no jd they dont
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: whos they
Homicidal Monk17: christians
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: ....yes, they do. often 
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: christian groups
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: will do those things
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: churches burn harry potter books, shit like that
Homicidal Monk17: christians listen to more then just that type of music
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: they do. dont fucking argue it, theres no point in arguing something if your obvoiusly wrong.
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: now answer me,
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: why would a perfect being
Homicidal Monk17: none of my churches have ever burned a book or cd
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: crate something
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: create*
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: because needing or wanting is a flaw
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and if god has a flaw he is not perfect
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: so how can he be perfect
Homicidal Monk17: because hes god thats just the way it is
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: no no no no
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: god is perfect
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: if god is perfect hed have no needs or wants
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: he does
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: he created us and killed us and fucked with the planet
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: he created hell
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: a loving god does not create a hell
Homicidal Monk17: nothing says a perect christian cant have needs
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: your entire belief system is so fucked up it makes no sense
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: NO NO NO
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO ME
Homicidal Monk17: yes i am
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: THEY SAY GOD IS THE ONLY THING THAT IS PERFECT
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: NO 
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: SHUT UP FOR A SECOND 
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: AND LISTEN
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: they say god is the only thing that is perfect
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: something that is perfect
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: can have no needs or wants
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: because that is a flaw
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: so how can he be pefect
Homicidal Monk17: how is having need or wants a flaw?
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: because 
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: to be perfect
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: is to be complete in every way and to be totally pure
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and to be complete and content and pure
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you dont need anything
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: or want anything becaus eyou dont need it
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: and you wouldnt have desire
Homicidal Monk17: nothing in the bible says u cant have needs or wants
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: because thats not perfection because to be perfe
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: ...you are so fucking stupid
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i didnt say
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: YOU canthave needs or wants
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i said
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: TO BE A PERFECT BEING
Homicidal Monk17: we all have different definations of perfect
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: YOU CANT HAVE NEEDS OR WANTS
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: NO WE DONT
Homicidal Monk17: who says that
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: NO WE FUCKING DONT, PERFECT IS NOT A RELATIVE WORD
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: that is what perfect is
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: to be complete and pure
Homicidal Monk17: not to me
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: perfect is not relative in this context
Homicidal Monk17: what does god want or need?
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: he wanted to create
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: he wanted to be entertained
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: he wanted something to love him
Homicidal Monk17: the 2nd one u have no proof
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: doest natter
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: first and third
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: are proof enough
Homicidal Monk17: and they said he was a perfect christian
Homicidal Monk17: not a perfecr being
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: no they said he wsa perfect
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you 
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: im done with you
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you are too stupid to carry on a conversation
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: stay christian
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: we need organized religion to keep the ignorant idiots in line
Homicidal Monk17: jd that was totally rude and uncalled for
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you're being completely incoherent!
Homicidal Monk17: no im not
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: it says hes perfect all over the fucking bible
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: its like every other line
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: how can you say that to me
Homicidal Monk17: ur lettig ur opinion completely take over without anytype of open mind
Homicidal Monk17: it says hes the perfect CHRISTIAN
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: NO IT DOESNT
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: IT SAYS
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: HES PERFECT
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: READ THE BIBLE
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: IT SAYS IT EVERYWHERE
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: FOR FUCKS SAKE
Homicidal Monk17: ive read the bible
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: NOT WELL ENOUGH
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: read it again
Homicidal Monk17: yeah right 
Homicidal Monk17: thats a waste of time
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: ........christ on a fucking bike
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i cant stand this anymore
Homicidal Monk17: i told u im not a full christian i have my boubts too
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: can i use this conversation for my webpage
Homicidal Monk17: no because ur just gunna use it to say im dumb and im not
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: no i wont
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i wont alter it in anywya
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: ill just put it on there
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: im making a section 
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: for conversations
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i wont even comment on it
Homicidal Monk17: i guess
Homicidal Monk17: im just saying ui cant look at it with a closed mind
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: no
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: immaking sense
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you are not
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: i am backing up my opinions with evidence and rational thought
Homicidal Monk17: to u, to me i make sense
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: you are not. how can i have an open mind to that
Homicidal Monk17: as i said im not a fully devoted christian talk to my grams and she can back everything up
SatanMadeMeDoIt7: okay, give her my screen name
Of course, her grandma didnt have the internet. 1