raydempsey: i was lucky enough to watch your evolution as a stoner lucas_s_d: phisical world problems: you get stoned and it just so happens that you have to go to a job interview (Blatant example) lucas_s_d: oh lucas_s_d: oh? lucas_s_d: i believe you are correct lucas_s_d: im certainly a different type of stoner now then when i frist started to smoke the bud lucas_s_d: the munchkin scene!!!!!! raydempsey: we all evolve lucas_s_d: sorry lucas_s_d: yeah lucas_s_d: we are all constantly evolving lucas_s_d: stoners just get to see a different view of it all lucas_s_d: we have the abilty with pot to anaylize anything, and we usualy tend to stick to philosophy, but mostly cause its more interesting raydempsey: jason has but not as much lucas_s_d: ==\/== similar but not quite meeting the the same place - a ch'iepe symbol lucas_s_d: and yes raydempsey: how so? lucas_s_d: evalution ==\/== philosophy raydempsey: ok i see lucas_s_d: sorry i was spaced out lucas_s_d: im back now raydempsey: i had a weird feeling lucas_s_d: and what was that lucas_s_d: voices) raydempsey: yesterday... raydempsey: felt like i had only 20 seconds of new memory until it got erased raydempsey: that lasted for 2 minutes raydempsey: like i was waking up over and over lucas_s_d: i feel like that all the god damn time lucas_s_d: constantly lucas_s_d: ive never been able to put it in words before lucas_s_d: waking up and feeling that this happend in a dream. but last time it happend, you woke up right at the point that you woke up lucas_s_d: the feeling that you were just dreaming. but a dream youve had before raydempsey: i never can tell people about my future predictions lucas_s_d: totaly raydempsey: if feels like as they happen....my mind is just saying "oh yeah...remember that?" lucas_s_d: yeah. lucas_s_d: exactly lucas_s_d: its like, yep just like last time. lucas_s_d: i knew that chick was going to be right there, and there is that same sign raydempsey: it's like i'm predicting the future but a second too late lucas_s_d: if you say that one of those things is going to happen, even if it wasnt going to, by you saying it, it will at least be concidered as the moment does pass raydempsey: and of course that one time that i got ahead of myself and predicted future for like a minute lucas_s_d: yeah lucas_s_d: at DQ raydempsey: that was actually kinda not cool lucas_s_d: did it make you think "if i can do that mabey this place IS controlled by me" lucas_s_d: cause i woulda lucas_s_d: but then again im crazy raydempsey: i was thinking more along the lines of: raydempsey: "finally, now these people know i'm not crazy and i do see things" lucas_s_d: thats a much healthier look at it raydempsey: considering vince and jj always got mad when i 'started up' ... lucas_s_d: have i become a hostile stoner? raydempsey: no not at all lucas_s_d: good lucas_s_d: that last comment seemed hostile lucas_s_d: or could be construed as such raydempsey: you're pretty laid back lucas_s_d: good to hear raydempsey: thought provoking to say the least lucas_s_d: maybe just hostile minded people would find me hostile lucas_s_d: i thought of something about this thing im watching raydempsey: and whats that lucas_s_d: the first time i say it i say it wrong, then i say a few versions of the same thing, the beggining. lucas_s_d: then the catch the 2nd run through, i had to sit thru what i had already seen lucas_s_d: if i stop this viewing of it, i'll have to start over, with the memories of every time i watched it in the past lucas_s_d: as i ramble away lucas_s_d: sorry raydempsey: i understood lucas_s_d: speaking of understanding... lucas_s_d: what is the correct spelling of our word raydempsey: ummm not sure lucas_s_d: i think it included an apostrophe lucas_s_d: you spelled it well earlier raydempsey: gei'pe raydempsey: or something lucas_s_d: that works raydempsey: wanna know what i tried? lucas_s_d: yes raydempsey: looking up a latin word that means "absolute truth" lucas_s_d: did you find one? raydempsey: i couldn't find a good translator engine lucas_s_d: the realization that you just realized absolute truth ==\/== gei'pe raydempsey: ==V== what is that raydempsey: i see raydempsey: nevermind raydempsey: is that symbol when you have been enlightened to absolute truth? lucas_s_d: no raydempsey: i don't understand then lucas_s_d: ==\/== is a way of saying when two words mean something compleety different, but at the core they are the same thing. raydempsey: i get it lucas_s_d: so when leaving their core root, they happened along different word evolutions, and meant different things raydempsey: wow, that's deep lucas_s_d: http://www.iskcon.org/main/twohk/philo/roots/absolute.htm lucas_s_d: much deeper people than me raydempsey: what's an example? lucas_s_d: an example lucas_s_d: having an example ==\/== you understanding my example lucas_s_d: maybe a better one would be lucas_s_d: this ==\/== and example lucas_s_d: wait lucas_s_d: an not and raydempsey: that's too deep for me lucas_s_d: duality man raydempsey: i hardly understand it 'cause it's so deep lucas_s_d: duality ==\/== absolute truth lucas_s_d: yeah they through in big words to impress themselves lucas_s_d: multifarious manifestations of the cosmos = unneeded frills raydempsey: yes lucas_s_d: fuckin robert pirsig man raydempsey: that's for people who take that shit way too seriously lucas_s_d: he fuckin says it all man, in plain simple english anyone can understand lucas_s_d: its modern philosophy raydempsey: well i can't lucas_s_d: thats not pirsig. lucas_s_d: thats some philosophy major fuckwad with a rich dad raydempsey: i see raydempsey: i like philosophy that deals with questioning things that people don't care to question lucas_s_d: "the doors are about chaos disorder and things that seem to have no meaning" -jim morrison lucas_s_d: questioning the unquestioned is the only way to do anything philosophicly raydempsey: i'd like to hear some of morrison's philosophy lucas_s_d: morrison just rehashed lucas_s_d: he just redid ginsburg and neitche and blake raydempsey: everyone questions who are we and why are we here raydempsey: i like to question why little things happen lucas_s_d: sometimes i dont think everyone does lucas_s_d: sometimes i think alot of people just never question anything raydempsey: people would rather be given an answer than a question raydempsey: hence religion lucas_s_d: and they have had better childhoods and never fucking thought about anything lucas_s_d: exactly lucas_s_d: people want answers not more questions raydempsey: religion: don't worry about it...here is your answer, don't question it...just live it lucas_s_d: the dualty between taking somethings word for it and searching for it lucas_s_d: after you find it you will have to take your own word on it raydempsey: here's a twister: lucas_s_d: ergo duality ==\/== absolute truth lucas_s_d: ok raydempsey: i think each person's religion should be what their own philosophy has grown to believe, not what religion gives them.....but at the same time that would be a religion lucas_s_d: yes raydempsey: my religion technically is to not live a religion raydempsey: and that is the paradox lucas_s_d: its a question of breaking philosophy away from religion, even though religion was originaly part of philosophy lucas_s_d: my religion is to follow only the path i walk on raydempsey: religion ==V== philosophy lucas_s_d: yes!! raydempsey: they share a bond lucas_s_d: yes raydempsey: did you make that symbol thing up? ==V== lucas_s_d: yeah lucas_s_d: soryry raydempsey: i like that thing lucas_s_d: its kinda van halen. lucas_s_d: but i didnt do that on purpose raydempsey: yeah it is...i didn't realize it until you told me lucas_s_d: i cant quite pinpoint the definition for it in words, but i think you have a good grasp of it raydempsey: so what is our official gei'pe definition? raydempsey: Something known to be 100% absolutely true lucas_s_d: it was stated earlier as ==\/== is a way of saying when two words mean something compleety different, but at the core they are the same thing. raydempsey: yeah....that's the definition for the symbol raydempsey: what is the name of the symbol raydempsey: i think YOU should name it lucas_s_d: ok lucas_s_d: toreroc lucas_s_d: wait tooreroc raydempsey: how's it pronounced? lucas_s_d: just like its spelled raydempsey: and how is that lucas_s_d: vocilazation ==\/== reading raydempsey: tu-rur-ik? lucas_s_d: ok raydempsey: can we change a vowel though? raydempsey: too much rrrrrrr raydempsey: terrrrrrr errrrrrr ik lucas_s_d: hmm lucas_s_d: root core lucas_s_d: core root backwards raydempsey: i see raydempsey: i didn't see that at first lucas_s_d: i know it was a well place oddity raydempsey: is there any other combos? raydempsey: we got to get dual in there somehow lucas_s_d: yeah raydempsey: lauderoc lucas_s_d: louder rock? lucas_s_d: like van halen lucas_s_d: i like it lucas_s_d: an accidental oddity raydempsey: lauderic won't be too bad raydempsey: "the words are lauderic of each other" lucas_s_d: i said it in math and ray puts it in words lucas_s_d: that seems backwords raydempsey: that's pretty cool lucas_s_d: im gonna turn in about now raydempsey: so, from what i understand, lauderic is like....when two things that are different share a dualatic root meaning lucas_s_d: yeah lucas_s_d: very much so raydempsey: ok fair enough raydempsey: ok, well if you're going to bed, i'll talk to you later raydempsey: i'm pretty tired too