StinkyjtbsPinky: well, i'm not athiest, but i'm not religious
Patrickswg1981: so your agnostic
StinkyjtbsPinky: i added something to my site, but i don't think i'm going to link it so people can see it until I have someones opinion
StinkyjtbsPinky: i'm whata whata
Patrickswg1981: agnostic
StinkyjtbsPinky: click here  and tell me what you think.  If you say yea put it up, i'm adding more
Patrickswg1981: ok well your makin a few assumptions
StinkyjtbsPinky: where?
Patrickswg1981: first off people dont look towards the bible for science
Patrickswg1981: its spiritual guidance
Patrickswg1981: the bible is faith
Patrickswg1981: its not meant to be used as a text book
StinkyjtbsPinky: no, but that's where they get their answer's about jeasus and god and all that
Patrickswg1981: yes but that is faith you talk about it in the context of science
StinkyjtbsPinky: i understand that.  But alot of people live by it.
Patrickswg1981: yes as guidance
Patrickswg1981: but not as a historical text
Patrickswg1981: there are different approaches to viewin the bible their is a fundamentalist approach in which i believe you are referring to when you talk about some people
StinkyjtbsPinky: ok, so then where did we come from?  besides that gaorilla theory...  where's this planet come from.  sure they're all madeup of rock and dirt, but how'dthis one become the one to live on?
Patrickswg1981: what reason would u like?
Patrickswg1981: i can answer that but i need to know what reason u want
Patrickswg1981: people read the bible to answer those questions through a spiritual standpoint
Patrickswg1981: scientifically we are nothin more than amino acids
StinkyjtbsPinky: ok then, how did we come about?
Patrickswg1981: scientifically or religiously?
StinkyjtbsPinky: if we weren't "constructed by God"  how did we get here?
Patrickswg1981: what do u mean we as a people or life itself
StinkyjtbsPinky: life, people.
StinkyjtbsPinky: everything
StinkyjtbsPinky: I know how we get here now- but when there was supposadly only two people- come on now, a woman can only have so many kids
Patrickswg1981: ok well here we go i'll start from the beginnin lol
Patrickswg1981: do u want this from a scientific point of view or religious
StinkyjtbsPinky: and if insest is wrong, then how did everyone come about because the first peeps on earth would all be related
Patrickswg1981: sandi your readin into the bible way to much
Patrickswg1981: its not accurate
StinkyjtbsPinky: i've never read the Bible
Patrickswg1981: well from what you know
Patrickswg1981: its wrong lol
Patrickswg1981: because the bible is very inconsistent
StinkyjtbsPinky: it wasmade by MAN
StinkyjtbsPinky: that's why I'm kinda weary on it
Patrickswg1981: hate to burst your bubble but about 90 percent of all the great minds through history have been man....
Patrickswg1981: einstein, netwon, jefferson, franklin, da vinci, socrates, plato
StinkyjtbsPinky: Patrick, what I'm trying to get accross is- if it was made by MAN how do we know that God is real?
Patrickswg1981: its faith sandi
StinkyjtbsPinky: what about it?
Patrickswg1981: faith is a belief in somethin
Patrickswg1981: everybody has difference reasons for sayin god is real
StinkyjtbsPinky: yes, but what I am asking is- how do we know it's true?  I believe in God, but how do we know he;s there?  How do weknow satan is real?
Patrickswg1981: you said you believe in god...why
StinkyjtbsPinky: I've never seen a dead body walking around- and God isn't alive, so how do we know he or she is there?  How do we know he isn't a she?
Patrickswg1981: answer my question first
StinkyjtbsPinky: I was raised believing there is one, but as I get older I question it.  I'm not sure
StinkyjtbsPinky: i've never seen him
StinkyjtbsPinky: or her
Patrickswg1981: some people feel god exists because for some he gives them guidance
Patrickswg1981: many believe that god is a part of consciousness
StinkyjtbsPinky: have they seen him?  has anyone seen him?
Patrickswg1981: which once again goes back to faith either you believe or dont
StinkyjtbsPinky: or is religion just one big cult?
Patrickswg1981: you dont have to see anythin to know that it exists
Patrickswg1981: can you see air?
StinkyjtbsPinky: nnope
Patrickswg1981: but we know it exists right
StinkyjtbsPinky: yea
Patrickswg1981: same with god
StinkyjtbsPinky: thats a good point
Patrickswg1981: i am a genius ya know :-P
StinkyjtbsPinky: lol
StinkyjtbsPinky: Okay so answer me this- why is the grass green?
Patrickswg1981: it all boils down to faith
StinkyjtbsPinky: lol
Patrickswg1981: cholorophyll
Patrickswg1981: thats why the grass is green
StinkyjtbsPinky: where'd that come from?
Patrickswg1981: cell evolution
StinkyjtbsPinky: where'd the first tree come from?
Patrickswg1981: complex amino acids from an asteroid that hit earth long ago
StinkyjtbsPinky: where'd the first animal come from?
Patrickswg1981: ok here i'll lay it all out for u
StinkyjtbsPinky: where did life itself come from?
Patrickswg1981: ok about 6 billion year ago an asteroid crash landed on earth. the asteroid contained amino acids that transformed the face of the earth. life began as simple organisms, sponges, protozoans, etc....then as time went out genetic mutations occured and created different species, life eventually evolved and evolved
Patrickswg1981: all life came from water
StinkyjtbsPinky: but how do we know that if no human life source existed then?
Patrickswg1981: huh?
Patrickswg1981: no human life source?
StinkyjtbsPinky: no one existed then
Patrickswg1981: humans came share a common ancestry with apes
Patrickswg1981: did u know that the genetic comparision to an ape is 99.5 percent or so
StinkyjtbsPinky: ok then how did apes develope into us?
Patrickswg1981: mutations
StinkyjtbsPinky: how did cave man develpe into us
Patrickswg1981: mutations and evolution
Patrickswg1981: if you take a genetics class u'll learn all about it lol
StinkyjtbsPinky: where did all the words come from then/?  cave men didnt talk like us- how did we make up words to fit a certain thing
StinkyjtbsPinky: lol
StinkyjtbsPinky: i'm just picking your brain
Patrickswg1981: your not pickin my brain because i actually have the answers to all of those questions lol
StinkyjtbsPinky: so answer my last one then
Patrickswg1981: about language?
StinkyjtbsPinky: yup
Patrickswg1981: culture
Patrickswg1981: sociology 101 lol
StinkyjtbsPinky: where did all that come from?
Patrickswg1981: its like an invention
Patrickswg1981: we name inventions just by callin it whatever we feel is necessary
StinkyjtbsPinky: ok so if cave men were stupid, who was smart enough to "invent" everything?
Patrickswg1981: so someone invented the wheel and called it the wheel
I decided to stop the conversation there because I was getting silly.
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