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| Author | Topic: Microtubules, ORMES, and god-power |
| Parsifal |
posted 1/7/01 5:59 PM
(I just posted this over at Darkplanet also) I recently received an email from someone who had read some of my postings on this discussion board, and he asked me for more information on ORMES - orbitally re-aranged mono-atomic elements. I had planned several large posts on this topic, but with all the recent hub-bub, I decided not to. But this is extemely important to the Ong's Hat story. I believe that this is what makes travel to other universes possible. I will post more on this in the future, but for now I have decided to post my email response to him, for other serious seekers that may be interested. The following is that response: Hello (XXXX), I assume you are referring to my posts on the Darkplanet discussion board. You also mention my website? I am a little confused by that because I don't have a website yet, but will soon. What website were you referring to? Anyway, we are close in age, I am 40. I posted some things about ORMES on Darkplanet's forum because a person there has been interested in alchemy and he mentioned "the philosopher's stone". I was planning to post a very long post on alchemy, which would include a lot about monatomic material and its connections to consciousness, but things are getting ugly at that discussion board. There is always some joker that stifles creative thought on that forum. I am always glad to share what I have found to ring true to me with anyone that asks, however my truth may be different from yours. I have found that any information that is received through the normal sensory organs, such as the eyes or ears, can be deceptive or an outright lie. When seeking through the world, and especially the Internet, always keep in mind that you are really seeking in the wrong place. You must seek within yourself through meditation to find the truth. But of course, I am sure that you understand this. I really don't know where to start. I don't know what background you have. I will give you some links to visit, but they may not make sense to you unless you are familiar with prerequisite material. The ORMES material, and why I believe it is so important, is an all encompassing subject. It has taken me a decade to make sense to me personally, and I have a lot of background knowledge of many subjects from my lifelong search for answers to the big questions. For now, I will summarize what I believe, without going into the details of why I believe it. It would take a book length letter to detail everything. This is why I really should create a website, your inquiry has inspired me to do that. I will let you know the url when I set it up. But for now, this will be an EXTREME summary! I believe we are each an unborn Elohim. We have the capability of mind over matter. We have god power. We have the power to create universes, and to destroy them. We have the power to physically travel between them. Anything that can be thought of can be manifested. But the "switch" to turn these functions on is in the off position. The switch to access these functions lies dormant in the 90% part of the brain that we do not use. I believe that we have ORMES naturally occurring within the microtubules of our cells. These elements are our physical interface between parts of our consciousness and our bodies. This is where our "aura" comes from. Our mind can control our dna through this interface. We do not have to physically get sick and die. This is our link to immortality. We truly are gods for we are God's children made in His/Her likeness. I believe that as we access the 90% unused portions of the brain, we cause more of our atoms to go into the high spin state, called ORMES. This is what Kundalini awakening really is. Ingesting ORMES can speed things along, but I personally don't believe a person should do this! Their mind must also be ready. It is similar to the damage that can happen to a person who trips on acid if they don't have the mental training to deal with disturbing visions, only enormously worse. If they turn on this god power before their mind is capable of controlling it properly they will literally create a very real and inescapable and possibly ETERNAL HELL for themself! I am not kidding around here! The above summary is what the "jigsaw puzzle pieces" I have found in my quest look like to me when assembled. The best site I have found for information on ORMES, including ways to make this "m-state" material (called ORMUS, otherwise known in ancient times as "philosopher's stone") is this one: http://zz.com/WhiteGoldWeb/ This one link is all you need. It is the most comprehensive site on the subject. You may also want to do a search on "David Hudson" and "microtubules" and "tubulin". I will post my reply to you on the Darkplanet forum as others may be interested in this. Rest assured, I will only post my response, you will remain anonymous. Thanks for asking, and God/Godess speed in your journey, Parsifal |
| Parsifal |
posted 1/8/01 3:00 AM
Very important read: http://members.aol.com/yggdras/paraphysics/BCarter.htm It REALLY is very important if you want to understand how biological matter can jump universes. |
| Parsifal |
posted 1/11/01 2:19 AM
http://danwinter.com/ormus/index.html |
| Harla Quinn |
posted 1/11/01 10:27 PM
From Matti "As a matter fact, I have not been doing anything very detailed on microtubules and I am not professional in details related to microtubules! Microtubules as quantum antennae hypothesis led to the notion of 'massless extremals' (MEs) with MEs serving as quantum antennae. Microtubules certainly represent one very important level in the fractal hierarchy of MEs but MEs in ALL length scales are fundamental for nderstanding life. MEs are in well defined sense electromagnetic life forms and symbiosis of these lifeforms in all length scales defines what we call life. For instance, EEG represents MEs at ELF frequencies: our electromagnetic body would thus be at least of order of Earth size. These ELF MEs are crucial for the model of qualia and human consciousness. Microtubule level MEs would presumably represent much lower level qualia. The primary qualia are however in well defined scale invariant, same in all length scales." |
| Parsifal |
posted 1/11/01 11:18 PM
Regarding Matti Pitk�nen, that sentence in my post in the PsiWars thread should have been in quotes. I was referring to what I read in this Barry Carter article: http://members.aol.com/yggdras/paraphysics/BCarter.htm ---------------- excerpt from the article -------------- A Finish physicist named Matti Pitk�nen has outlined a theoretical framework for superconductivity in biological systems. He has also outlined a hypothesis which suggests a physical ORMUS connection to psychokinesis and other psychic phenomena. Matti Pitk�nen claims that the movement of matter by mind which occurs inside of the microtubule is virtually identical to psychokinesis or moving objects outside the body by the power of mind alone. In a May 1997 email Matti wrote: Dear Barry, Certain person claiming to have ability to do psychokinesis contacted me and he encouraged me to think about a possible TGD inspired model of psychokinesis. Although I have worked only less than week it seems that this will turn out to be a good question. As a matter of fact it seems that separate pieces of TGD inspired model of biosystem begin to fit together very nicely. The key concept is what I call topological field quantization. Magnetic field in TGD decomposes into flux tubes parallel to the flux lines of field. These flux tubes are cylindrical surfaces with outer boundary. If one requires that there is no ordinary matter inside them one obtains hollow cylindrical flux tubes with opposite charged wormhole densities on the inner and outer surfaces of this cylindrical surface. Note that wormhole flux tubes involve always two spacetime sheets with opposite magnetic fluxes. Wormholes form a BE condensate and this topologically quantized magnetic field becomes quantum object of macroscopic size and a potential conscious being if TGD inspired theory of consciousness is correct!! [Various] people seem to speak about White Gold almost as a conscious being: they might be right! If PK-able person is able to control this kind of macroscopic field associated with his body then PK becomes possible by levitation in this field, provided the object is wormhole super conductor (recall that wormholes can give rise to super conductivity in which wormholes are charge carriers as well as ordinary electronic super conductivity). By changing voluntarily the quantized magnetic fluxes in flux lines of magnetic field PK-able person can control the magnetic field at will and thus create levitating force. Actually also DNA inside cell could perform similar control of motion. In fact, the genetic code might be transcribed into the structure of the wormhole magnetic field surrounding DNA and this would make possible the translation of genetic code to biostructures. So called phantom DNA effect is in accordance with the hypothesis that DNA in presence of coherent light (created by microtubules by quantum antenna hypothesis!) gives rise to wormhole magnetic field. Wormhole magnetic fields might [be] the key feature of biological systems behind coherent photons. Matti Pitk�nen has expanded this concept on his web site. In his paper there he writes: The basic philosophy of the model is following. PK is not just some isolated exotic phenomenon but only a special case of the voluntary control of bodily motions, which we all routinely perform. The only difference is that the range of voluntary control extends over the boundaries of the body in case of PK. This leads to important conclusion: PK phenomena must involve classical long range fields, which give for biosystems spatial extension larger than what is visible (that is hands with which to grasp on external object!). According to TGD inspired theory of consciousness, cell and even DNA can be conscious and perform choices. Thus the model should also provide understanding about small scale biocontrol such as the (voluntary!) control of the motion of cell organelles performed by cell nucleus. A related problem is how genetic code is transformed into spatial structures during ontogeny and the idea that each DNA sequence corresponds to a characteristic classical field configuration, is attractive. Thus the model in question is not meant to be an ad hoc solution of a particular problem called PK but a general solution of several basic problems in biology. It looks like the ORMUS elements might provide the missing link in our understanding of the relationship between mind and matter. |
| Harla Quinn |
posted 1/15/01 7:09 PM
Repost from DP Here is a communique snippet from Sarfatti I thought I would share with you guys. It is interesting because of the microtubules connection and the reality architecture leanings... Dante [Sarfatti] Bohm pilot wave landscape of qubits is posited to be intrinsically mental, i.e. capable of subjectively felt consciousness in the field itself. There are good reasons to make this postulate. This automatically solves Chalmers "hard problem" as set forth in his Dec 95 Sci Am article. It's a postulate. You do not prove them. They are justified by their empirical results. This model has several: 1. Cosmic connection for consciousness generation. 2. Complexity cutoff for consciousness generation depending on age of universe ~ 10^18 i.e. a billion billion qubits of nonclassical information. This fits microtubule nanoanatomy of our own brain. It also means small animals cannot have private consciousness. They may have discarnate group mind so that the herd acts intelligently and the individuals are shepherded by the collective, e.g. Ant Colony. This would also explain to some extent the Black Magick power of charismatic leaders like Adolph Hitler in Lennie Reifenstal's "Triumph of the Will" for example. Also in Rock Concerts, Raves and Lynch Mobs. On the positive side in military battle units to some extent. In group mind mode, even complex humans lose their moral individuality. Quite literally, their souls are stolen by "The Devil" to use ancient terms. Indeed, I did some study of the theory of Mussolini's metaphysics of the Fascist State while at Cornell in Mario Einaudi's course on Political Theory (in which I got an A) and Il Duce, it is clear, was quite aware of this phenomenon. I am sure scholars better qualified than I have studied this? Rupert Shedrake's "morphogenetic field" is a very watered-down New Agey Philosophy-Lite phenomenology of these collective phenomena that all are implicit in "post-quantum signal nonlocality". These ideas are also well know in Haitian "Voudou" from the African religions and we also I imagine find them in Shamanism. I think Joseph Campbell also talks about it in his theory of myth. A good reference is Erik Davis's "Techgnosis" www.levity.com/techgnosis. Also on Voudou in physics www.innerx.net/personal/t...ml#outline 3. Computation of Einsten clock duration of single binding undivided moment of consciousness in the "stream" (William James). ~ 0.1 - 1 sec 4. Power dissipation to maintain stream of consciousness ~ 10^-2 watts. Bohm shows that ordinary quantum theory is "one-way" i.e. Q -> M The Bohm pilot wave landscape Q (AKA "quantum potential") acts on the material system point M with no direct reaction of M back on its personally attached Q. This is why we have local quantum randomness even in nonlocally connected parts of a whole when we only look at a single part, i.e. "quantum signal locality" means no faster than light or precognitive backward in time communication via nonlocality. Consciousness, in this model, is the distortion of Q from direct reaction of M on it's Q. This changes unconscious Q to conscious Q* i.e. Q* <- M Both arrows happen at once, under certain conditions that require a critical complexity. This is the "strange loop", the "two-way relation" in strong violation of the statistical predictions of orthodox quantum theory. That is, now post-quantum signal nonlocality from this very special kind of self-organizing feedback-control loop not the same as quantum and classical feedback loops of several kinds at different levels of the dynamic process of complex systems. Now this theory is a physics theory. It says nothing about the content of of consciousness. It says nothing about psychology, spirituality, ethics, morality etc. The physics of consciousness in not "Beyond Good and Evil" it is pre-morality like pre-geometry is to Einstein's geometrodynamics. I should also say that post-quantum theory is a covering theory of quantum theory. In the same way quantum theory is a covering theory of classical theory. General relativity is a covering theory of special relativity. Things true in the theory are violated in the covering theory of the theory. This is Philosophy of Science 101. The Rebbe Yeshua, known to Christians as Christ, gave the Moral New Testament as a covering theory of the Moral Old Testament as in new wine Q* in new bottles M, not old wine in new bottles nor new wine in old bottles. Or "skins" I suppose? Saul-Paul can correct my lousy knowledge of theology. :-) http://www.innerx.net/personal/t...ml#outline |
| Klyph |
posted 3/19/01 4:07 PM
hi http://www.levity.com/alchemy/artephiu.html |
| Pahana |
posted 3/19/01 9:09 PM
Interesting Sarfatti post previously. I have a feeling from what I read there that he is somewhat contained by his own ideas. IE - assumption that all animals are group mind only, dislike of modern celebratory activity 'this happens in....rock concerts, raves.... on the positive side....war'. I think his last statement about Christ probably is his own personal opinion and needs some more explanation. On the positive side, the idea of quantum physics assuming a one sided interaction is astute. The reaction is rather somewhat continuous, being that the measuring device is altered by the act of measuring (it has to be so the output can be read). I don't think this demands consciousness of the measuring device however. Thats better left for another proof. 142=7. |
| dante |
posted 3/22/01 7:16 PM
...the observation does not occur in the device but in the observation of the device... this is one of the great challenges to PQM - at what point does the state vector collapse... ...does a chain of events sit in statis until a "conscious" participant interacts?... So both that being observed and the device that is observing both then have to be observed by an object with an internal self-aware reality (conscious)... ...it gets very sticky and semantic when it is explained without the math... ...very, paradoxical... ...and you are very celar on Jack - he is limited by his own genius, but if you hammer on him long enough until he runs out of arguments he will adopt new beliefs... -p |
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