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I don't like Gentle Giant as much as I'm supposed to. That certainly
doesn't mean that I don't like Gentle Giant at all. And of course, it would
be an absolute stupidity to deny Gentle Giant the right to occupy a worthy
place in the midst of all the important progressive groups of the early
Seventies. Gentle Giant arrived on the scene approximately at the same
time as everybody else - in 1970; however, they never really made it big,
and it's not difficult to see why. Or, wait, now that I finally braced
myself to explaining this, it's actually quite difficult.
Let's try it that way: on one hand, the advantages of Gentle Giant and
their differences from other prog bands of the time are rather obvious.
While the band never had a truly outstanding soloist, neither in the keyboards
nor in the guitar department, most of its players were quite gifted, especially
such multi-instrumentalists as Phi Shulman and Kerry Minnear, and the ace
guitarist Gary Green. More important, they were always bent on playing
music; and I should probably not only put these two words in italics,
I should have also made 'em bold and underlined and multi-coloured. See,
Gentle Giant rarely went for atmospheric build-ups and sound effects, nor
did they just fool around with their synthesizers. No, the band was always
intent on playing music, and playing it as well, as much and in as many
different ways as possible. Their blend of prog is almost impossible to
categorize: jazz seems to be the most obvious of influences, but it's only
one of the influences. Their work includes short and long passages of classical,
folk, rock'n'roll, even punk (in the late stages); mixing up medieval balladeering
and heavy metal, or slick pop with church organ instrumental parts is the
regular way of life for them. They say that in concert the band members
used to switch between various instruments all the time, so that the stage
usually looked as if it were set up for an entire orchestra. And, while
they rarely went for creating twenty-minute epics, the sine qua non
of most 'classic' prog bands, their songs are really a hard nut to chew
on: apparently, the thing that the band liked most of all was switch as
many time signatures as possible within the limits of a three-to-five-minutes
rock song without making it sound a complete cacophonous mess.
In other words, Gentle Giant are unique. The question is: but are they
good? Technical skill and loads of complex melodies do not necessarily
make up an impressive record. And this is where I come into conflict with
the average prog fan. For those who enjoy anything as long as it stays
a long distance away from 'pop', Gentle Giant's music is an absolute must
- these guys often make Yes sound like the Monkees. But for all their complexity,
Gentle Giant rarely achieve enough emotional effect through their music:
much too often, they just sound like they're playing for the sake of playing,
showcasing their skills but having no real feeling in their heart. Their
music is rarely 'atmospheric', either: they don't trigger your imagination
to make you wander through medieval landscapes like Genesis did in their
prime. Sometimes they engage you, sometimes they don't, but it's understood
that their primary purpose is not to engage you: their primary purpose
is to create waves and waves of new, complicated sound textures that stream
as far from the mainstream as possible.
This explains why Gentle Giant have never found a mass audience: they never
managed to make the big commercial breakthrough, and not even any progressive
rock fan is aware of their existence and importance in the first place.
They always had, and still have, a faithful group of followers (which isn't
really that large), which have always admired the band's progressive spirit;
but for a more 'opened' and eclectic fan like me, there's really far more
to dislike about Gentle Giant than to like about them. I do admire the
band's spirit and bravery to unleash such a constant stream of hard-to-follow
progressive albums from 1970 to 1976, but I'm also very selective about
their output. The regular prog audiences apparently thought likewise, and
with all their bravado, Gentle Giant never found a way to penetrate the
hearts of the critics or even the 'elitist' prog lovers. That certainly
does not account for the travesty committed by Rolling Stone, which did
not even bother to include Gentle Giant in its performer list; however,
it certainly accounts for, well, everything else.
Ironically, I feel much better about the last period of that band's career
than most of their fans do. At the tail end of the Seventies, Gentle Giant
chose the 'assimilative' tactics and went for a more mainstream sound,
steadily making the transgression from complex prog to rather simplistic
pop. For that, their latest albums are often loathed; yet they did create
some minor pop masterpieces, and their 'pop' products in the late Seventies
were infinitely better than, say, similar Genesis products (read in more
details on that in my Giant For A Day review).
That said, I still find the courage to award the band a rating of two,
if only for their utmost importance to prog as a genre. And, well, whatever,
it's quite possible to make yourself a ninety-minute tape of Gentle Giant
tunes and consider it one of the best prog tapes ever made. I guess that's
what I'm going to go do right now, oh wait, just a minute, lemme give you
the scoop on the lineup.
Lineup, then: Derek Shulman - vocals; Ray Shulman - bass,
violin, percussion, backing vocals; Phil Shulman - brass instruments,
vocals; Kerry Minnear - keyboards, vocals; Gary Green - lead
guitar; Martin Smith - drums. While the first five gentlemen were
more or less constants in the line-up, the drummers for Gentle Giant kept
coming and going; John Wethers seems to have been the most important
of these.
General Evaluation:
Listenability: 2/5. One
of the hardest bands to get into, no doubt about that - but once you get
used to their medieval/jazzy vibe, things will get better. A little.
Resonance: 1/5. They don't even
take you on to a mystical journey or something. They're "curious".
Kinda like King Crimson.
Originality: 3/5. They did borrow
a lot from others in their beginning, but the classic GG style is something
never tried by anybody else.
Adequacy: 3/5. Sometimes they're
far more pretentious than they should be ('Knots?' Who do these guys think
they really are?), but at least they didn't have a Pete Sinfield write
their lyrics.
Overall: 2.25 = *
* on the rating scale.
What do YOU think about Gentle Giant? Mail your ideas
Your worthy comments:
a b <[email protected]> (02.08.2000)
I must say I whole-heartedly disagree with your review of Gentle Giant.
Now, before we start feeling animosity here, I'd like to explain my position.
My primary interest in music is in composition. I was raised on classical
music. My favorite composers include people like Bartok and Ligetti, as
well as "easier" composers like Shostakovich, Prokofiev, Sibelius,
Mahler, etc. And I must say that Gentle Giant's output is, compositionally
speaking, almost tame and tonal when compared to some of my other music.
That said, it is easy to see why someone of my background would consider
Gentle Giant as one of the best prog bands ever. The emphasis is on composition,
and they do it well.
My introduction to GG came a couple of years ago on the internet. After
hearing a couple MIDIs, I went out and bought a couple albums. No more
than a week later, I was the proud owner of every GG studio album. I instantly
enjoyed everything on all but the last three albums. To tell the truth,
I can't stand the last three -- to pop, and I hate pop.
Octopus and Interview are my two favorite albums, but all
the others (excluding the last 3) are definitely worth having if you enjoy
classical music, esp 20th C. music. Very intrigueing. If you don't care
for mainstream rock, discarding it as repeditive, simplistic, compositionally
empty, base, and often repulsive, but at the same time happen to like rock
instrumentation, then GG is a must.
I just wanted to offer a contrary opinion.
Oh by the way -- I don't really care for King Crimson. I've never been
able to get into them, even though I've spent hours listening to them and
even own some of their recordings. I haven't
Year Of Release: 1970
Record rating = 10
Overall rating = 12
A solid prog-rock album, sharing all of prog's flaws but also apparently
unique in its blend of instrumentation.
Best song: FUNNY WAYS
Important Preliminary Note: this is the best album by GG I've
heard so far, but I still feel pretty feeble about that twelve I've given
it. I still hold out hopes for some of their more 'popular' (not 'pop'!)
albums like Power And Glory or Acquiring The Taste; if they
turn out to be more strong efforts, I'll reduce this here rating to a 9.
Consider it a little mathematical trickery, if you wish. Now, on to the
review.
Gentle Giant might have been 'giants for a day', but they were certainly
midgets for a year - at least, such a year as 1970. In the fall of 1969,
such an album as their glorious debut might have been a sensation. As it
was, King Crimson's In The Court Of The Crimson King had already
firmly taken the niche in which this album was meant to be inserted, and
sceptics and critics might have easily done the mistake of dismissing Gentle
Giant as a carbon copy, if not a miserable parody on, prog rock's first
masterful statement. Indeed, it's hard to get rid of the 'parody' idea,
especially when putting both CD's next to each other and glancing at the
covers (remember the Crimson King? If you don't, here's a
link.) And as for the music itself, Gentle Giant have certainly taken
a prog approach much similar to King Crimson's: relying more on bringing
jazz and avantgarde elements into rock music than mating it with classical
a la ELP or going into the ultra-complex pattern of Yes and the
like. Not to mention the band's impressive instrumental techniques: the
Mellotrons, recorders and saxes are quite prominent throughout the record,
making it a bizarre, delicious hodge-podge of ideas. Finally, some of the
songs sound almost exactly like early King Crimson ('Alucard').
That said, Gentle Giant are hardly as impressive, shocking and emotionally
resonant as King Crimson, at least, as King Crimson was on the border
of the decades. The album sounds dangerously smooth, with relatively quiet,
toned down guitar and keyboard parts, and a homely, soft type of production
that can't provide any of the tunes with a 'universal', bombastic feel
even when they obviously demand one ('Giant'). The instrumental parts,
which are many, are not as well thought out as in King Crimson's case,
and, while I indeed admire the band members' prowess at multi-instrumentalism,
none of the members are virtuoso players. In other words, none of the songs
make you burst out of your chair or grind you into the wall: for comparison,
just replay your trusty rusty 'Schizoid Man'.
But why complain? There have always been first-rate and second-rate bands
- and hey, there've been third- and fourth-rate bands, too - and Gentle
Giant is simply a terrific second-rate prog-rock band (there I go hanging
these labels again; but see, I'm not an anti-labelist as so many people
claim to be and think they're so clever and so 'above' labeling. Labels
are extremely useful when not over-abused). Anyway, I slowly grew used
to this album, though I admit it did take me a while. Many of these songs
are really well-written, and kudos to Gentle Giant for not falling into
the regular trap and, for the most part, sticking to the 'middle-length'
pattern. There's only one nine-minute epic on here, 'Nothing At All', and
as is the case with almost any prog epic except the most worthy, it has
its moments that suck and other moments that... suck even more. Heh, heh,
just kidding. It starts out as a soft folksy medieval ballad, with a very
pleasant vibe about it and beautiful vocal harmonies, then becomes quite
rockin', with some mighty riffage and mad soloing courtesy of Gary Green,
but as you're just settling down it suddenly turns into a pointless electronic
drum solo courtesy of Martin Smith (or maybe it's principal keyboard wiz
Kerry Minnear that does the drumming? he's credited for 'tuned percussion'
on the album) which just bores the very soul out of me. What a waste of
space on an album that's quite short by itself.
The first four tracks on the album are swell, however (in a relative way
- remember, it's a second-rate prog-rock band we're speaking of!). 'Giant'
sets the band's entire image, with its 'demiurgical' lyrics and pompous,
twisted melody, full of nice guitar lines, sax swirls and grumbly bass
lines. Of course, the song immediately brings visions of '21st Century
Schizoid Man' to mind: nowhere near as powerful or shocking, though. I
must also say that I'm definitely not a fan of Derek Shulman's vocals:
he shares the same kind of bleeting tenor that distinguished the 'infamous'
Roger Chapman of Family, but unlike Chapman, he never uses his voice in
a freakin' perverted way, so it's not even interesting as a novelty factor.
Thankfully, he doesn't sing too much on this track: the verses are all
short.
'Funny Ways' is the definite highlight of the album. Brother Phil Shulman's
vocals are, in contrast, quite gorgeous, sweet and heavenly, and this beautiful
ballad, all drenched in acoustic guitars, pretty synth strings and real
cellos, is a perfect marriage of progressive ambitions with classical-influenced
pop schlock (the latter not taken in a real denigratory sense on here).
The mid-section is probably the closest they ever got to a cathartic climax
on here, with Green taking a short, but surprisingly effective, hard-rocking
lead.
'Alucard', then, is the forgotten gem of this record. If you think that
it was Pete Townshend, or Stevie Wonder, or ELP, that first put the synthesizer
to a proper musical use, do not think that any more. Kerry Minnear basically
makes the song his own, building it on a gruff, gloomy synthesizer riff
and exploiting the instrument masterfully throughout. Once again, the song
reminds me of King Crimson - 'Pictures Of A City' this time - but this
time I'd say it's the Gentle Giant song that's the superior one. The powerful,
unforgettable interplay between the synth and Phil's saxophone simply can't
be beat: it's quite a rousing experience, and a would-be masterpiece, if
not for the particularly ugly vocal sections spoiled by ugly sound effects.
Finally, the practice of 'calm after the storm' is carried on to the following
track: the brontosauric 'Alucard' is succeeded by the quiet and cold aura
of a tune, quite naturally entitled 'Isn't It Quiet And Cold?'. Phil again
sings lead here (why don't they let him sing everything on here?
His voice is so angelic!), and the song itself is a charming jazzy shuffle
with a wonderful cello accompaniment, and hey, what's that in the background?
Electric piano? Sounds really relaxing and moody to me. Even the glockenspiel
is moody. Ooh, is it moody.
Now if only they hadn't run out of ideas on the second side (both 'Nothing
At All' and the bloozy 'Why Not?' have their moments, but both also overstay
their welcome), I would easily call it the best prog record written by
any second-rate prog rock band I've ever heard. As it is, I'll simply call
it One of the best prog records written by any second-rate prog rock band
I've ever heard. (Hey, have you realized you're dealing with a hopeless
scholastic? And have you ever tried to count my average number of
parentheses per review?) In any case, I simply don't understand what the
hell that last track is doing on there. Is it a mocking re-arrangement
of 'God Save The Queen' or what? One and a half minutes more of wasted
tape; man, these guys sure have a lot of filler for such a short record.
Isn't it quiet and cold when there are no comments for an album?
Your worthy comments:
Ben Greenstein <[email protected]> (04.05.2000)
Hmmm... Something about this one really rubs me the wrong way. Maybe it's just the way they blatantly imitate King Crimson on almost every song, or maybe it's the lousy production. Either way, the band really hasn't found it's voice yet, experimenting with some truly ugly synth arrangements ("Alucard") and some cornball balladry (I don't quite HATE "Funny Ways" - at least, not until that disgusting "upbeat" part). The only songs that I really like are "Isn't It Quiet And Cold" and "Why Not?" The rest are pretty lousy. Especially "Nothing At All." A low six.
David Albert <[email protected]> (08.08.2000)
Mostly i can agree, although this effort is surely not the best album of GG and I can`t see them imitating King Crimson`s In The Court..., and I heard both records quite often ! Maybe the cover is a nice little gag, but no parody and a marvellous picture indeed. I don`t see any musical ideas copied, except naturally the overall prog-style which is a bit invented by the Crimson King. All songs are good, Ok "The Queen" is borin but very short (Thank God) and "Nothing At All" has great moments but is too long. My favourites are "Funny Ways" ( an excellent ballad, with a fast 7/4-rhythm part), "Alucard" ((DRACULA) this song sets prog rules !, and how Kerry uses the synthesisers...a forgotten gem really) and "Why Not" (if you want to see GG rock, you`re right here, contains also a very beautiful soft part...). "Giant" is an engaged prog-rocker,too. Your rating of 10 is alright.
Kevin Muckenthaler <[email protected]> (17.10.2000)
Gentle Giant's first release is a little rough around the edges, but it has a charm of its own. I really don't think some of this sounds totally like King Crimson; Gentle Giant had their own style even on their first album. "Giant" is a pretty ambitious opening track. Derek's vocals sound less refined on this album than on subsequent releases. "Funny Ways" is great and moody, and the psuedo-Caribbean section is funny. I agree about Gary Green's guitar solo here: it's quite good. "Alucard" is another fun track with a good groove. I like the effects on the vocals because it adds to the spookiness of the lyrics. Phil's vocals and Ray's violin on "Isn't It Quiet and Cold?" are great. The first part of "Nothing at All" (before the drum solo) is a perfect piece of music. The vocal harmonies are immaculate in the quiet part, and the guitar riffs are loud and aggressive during Derek's section. There's this little whistling keyboard part in there somewhere that's really cool, as well. The drum solo is kinda funny and pointless, as is Kerry's accompanying piano part. I don't think it's electronic drums. They probably used something called a phaser (I think) to achieve the effect. "Why Not?" is a heavy rocker with a bluesy ending. The quiet part in the middle when Kerry sings is one of my favorite parts of the album. "The Queen" serves no real purpose, but it's obviously just a joke. I like this album quite a bit, but better things were still to come.
Year Of Release: 1972
Record rating = 9
Overall rating = 11
A concept album that manages to have quite a bit of filler for its
thirty minutes, but some great tunes and ideas as well.
Best song: SCHOOLDAYS
For their third album, Gentle Giant decided they were going to expand
their conceptual horizons - and ended up writing a mini-rock opera. Not
that the album really feels as a rock opera, mind you; for the most
part, I sense the concept as merely as an excuse for loads and loads of
pleasant, but rather unrelated jamming. The concept itself is rather simple
and not all that thought-provoking: basically, they tell the story of three
friends (how did you guess?) that were friends in school and later went
their own ways, one of them becoming a road worker, the other a painter,
and the third a businessman or whoever. Apparently, they never met after
school, and that's the way it goes. So there's a 'Prologue' (not
an overture), a song devoted to their school experience, a 'personal' tune
for each of the friends (why does that remind me of Quadrophenia?),
and an epilogue. And the whole thing is just about thirty minutes long;
Gentle Giant always made their albums short, that's why there's so many
of them.
Not that I don't like the album - I consider it one of their best, in fact,
if a little misguided and erratic in places. Since there are but six songs,
it's rather easy to concentrate on each of them separately, no matter how
musically twisted they are. 'Prologue' is really the least interesting
of the bunch; starting out as an organ-based jam, it quickly sets 'the
background' with half a minute worth of lovely vocal harmonies, and then
degenerates back into the same kind of jam with Gary Green taking over
the leading role and playing some decent, but still lacklustre guitar.
'Schooldays', though, is nothing short of a GG masterpiece: the introductory
duet between Kerry's vibes and Gary's fluent guitar sounds not unlike the
kind of music the archangels must be playing for the Lord God above, and
the complex vocal harmonies, arranged as a call-and-answer session ('the
bell rings - and all things - are calling'), are incredible; I wonder if
they ever managed to pull them off onstage. Probably did. While seven minutes
might be a little long for this song, I rarely ever feel so: the tune evokes
beautiful memories, and it's really a very nice choice to make if you ever
want to go back to your childhood.
But children grow up, and start going their own ways. 'Working All Day'
presents the 'elder brother' who hasn't managed to achieve much; he's represented
by a menacing, grumbly fusion-style composition, this time based around
guitar/brass interplay, with lots of fat saxes all around the place and
a nice organ solo. While the song is not the most impressive on the record,
it's at least a compact and memorable composition, so that lovers of order
and structure will be attracted to it. Me, I'm more interested in the artist's
confession, the multi-part suite 'Peel The Paint'. It begins fairly inoffensive,
with a lightweight classical-influenced pastiche sung by Phil Shulman as
he sings about all the joys and pleasures of the artist's profession -
'lost in the hush, no need to rush, time waits for him who creates with
the brush'. Then, all of a sudden, hoopla! the bassline gets menacing,
and the song transforms into an aggressive jazz-rock thunderstorm, with
Phil passing over the vocals to Derek who shatters the illusions - 'peel
the paint, look underneath, you'll see the same old savage beast'. The
song then ventures off into a million directions, all of them fascinating,
with Gary soloing like mad and various echo and tremolo effects on the
instruments that create an effectively 'evil' atmosphere, not in the Sabbath
meaning of the word, but rather in the 'church style', if you get what
I mean. Shucks, I don't quite get it myself.
'Mister Class And Quality', then, introduces the most successful of the
three friends, and again, the tune is rather throwaway, as compact and
short as it is. Even the lyrics are trite. 'The world needs steady men
like me to give and take the orders'. Sure thing. So skip it and concentrate
on the title track, a kind of 'epilogue' for the album. Again, it's multi-part,
and again, it's a good one - strange how I actually like the most complex
parts on this album and dislike the simplistic ones. Hmm. Maybe it's time
for me to try my hand at a review for those whacko guys at www.prog.net.
(Don't go there! You'll get hernia! I warned you!) Anyway, 'Three Friends'
again goes from an aggressive jazzy jam to a majestic part with lots of
atmospheric synths, Mellotrons and church organs which makes a suitable
conclusion for the entire 'concept'.
Actually, I don't mind that the idea was such a trivial one; on the contrary,
I'm quite glad that Three Friends is a concept album. The concept
gives all of the songs a sense - while the general melodies and jams are
indeed tighter and richer and more emotionally resonant than the ones on
Octopus, it's the concept that really organizes them and breathes
real life and content into what would otherwise be a passable set of self-indulgent
improvisations. Unfortunately, the boys were not too wild about the concept
themselves, I suppose, and they did not venture out to implement the same
tactics on their next release - to disastrous results.
Peel the paint and release your ideas
Your worthy comments:
Ben Greenstein <[email protected]> (16.03.2000)
Whatever. Octopus is too avantgarde, but songs like "Schooldays"
are brilliant? This stuff is far more hard-to-follow than anything on the
next album! As much as I dig this stuff, it's really not as melodic as
the band's other stuff (though they were never a "melodic" group
to begin with), so I really can't see how you, of all people, would enjoy
it.
I think that, of the Gentle Giant albums that I own so far, this is the
weakest. There are less musical ideas than on Acquiring the Taste,
the instruments are less varied, and the overall concept just strikes me
as a little too immature. Still, the album starts off and ends really strongly,
and isn't BAD, just inferior to the surrounding albums. 8/10.
Kevin Muckenthaler <[email protected]> (17.10.2000)
This one has a bit more laid-back, open feel to it than the last two. Maybe part of the reason is drummer Malcolm Mortimore, who isn't as precise as Martin Smith or as pounding as John Weathers. The opening track "Prologue" is good but goes on a little too long. "Schooldays" is an imaginative piece that has sets the mood of childhood quite well. The second part of it with the piano seems pretty ethereal, and in some parts Phil's son Calvin chants under Kerry's vocals. "Working All Day" does a very good job portraying the working-class friend. Both parts of "Peel the Paint" are good: the humble and very quiet beginning and the loud, mean rocker with Derek yelling out the lyrics. Gary Green goes nuts with another fine solo. "Mister Class and Quality?" is a very catchy number with a good beat and good playing all around. The way "Three Friends" comes out of nowhere is great. This is one of the most haunting and beautiful songs I've ever heard. The vocals, the mellotron, the dramatic melody, it's amazing. Just to be nit-picking, though, "Three Friends" actually begins at 2:28 on Track 6. The placement was wrong on the CD. Anyway, this is another fine album, but not as good as the two albums surrounding it: Acquiring the Taste and Octopus.
Year Of Release: 1972
Record rating = 8
Overall rating = 10
Too much avantgarde and dissonance for avantgarde and dissonance's
own sake. This record goes nowhere, and that's that.
Best song: RIVER
I originally gave this album an overall rating of nine (which explains
the criticism below), but I was definitely wrong. I won't rewrite my original
review, because I still agree with much of what I've written, but truth
is, with time the record grows on you at least to a stage when you get
to understand that the band really care about their melodies. I guess it's
the almost complete lack of emotional resonance that made me so harsh in
the first place - but I didn't really give enough credit to the band's
general inventiveness, freshness and originality. 'Raconteur Troubadour'
and 'Dog's Life', in particular, turn out to be far more interesting musically
than I'd previously suspected - after all, who cares if they overestimate
the complexity of medieval music? 'Raconteur Troubadour' kicks, and the
pretty acoustic melody of 'Dog's Life' is actually engaging. I still hate
the badass vocal harmony arrangements in 'Knots', and that instrumental
is just as meaningless as it ever was, but none of the other tracks are
bad, and most are quite engaging and occasionally hilarious. A high overall
ten, weak eleven it is. Now here's my original review - don't despise it,
either.
Not for me, thank you. Lord knows I simply adore octopuses (or,
if we try to be correct and observe the rules of the original language,
octopodes), and the All-Music Guide does consider this record
to be Gentle Giant's creative peak, together with many of the band's fans;
and indeed, if it's pure creativity and originality we're speaking of,
Octopus may offer a lot more to you than Gentle Giant will
ever do, and if it's complexity you're after, this album will baffle you
even more than Three Friends. But that does not detract me from
stating that as a whole, the record is simply dull - ranging from 'normally
dull' to 'deadly dull', in fact.
By the end of 1972, the band had all but abandoned 'standard song conceptions';
out of the seven tracks on here, not even a single one has less than two
or three different time signatures, and Octopus isn't even such
a blatantly 'conceptual' album as Three Friends. Okay, that might
be understandable. But not a single one of these songs (except maybe 'River')
has anything to offer us in the way of memorable melodies or solid riffs,
either! As much as I would like to respect and/or love any of these ditties,
I simply can't since there's absolutely nothing to hold on to. Yeah, the
songs are short - thank God, because otherwise the album would simply be
unlistenable. But each song consists of several sections, and quite often
they alternate with each other in such a flurry that you don't even have
the time to catch your breath. And I'm sorry to say that, and I apologize
if one of my readers on here happens to be a hardcore Giant fan, but for
the most part, these sections are rote. Just like King Crimson (who
they seem to be ripping off more and more with every succeeding record),
Gentle Giant slowly, but steadily move away from the 'atmospheric epic'
and run towards 'self-indulgent jazzy noodling'; unlike King Crimson, though,
they don't even win through instrumental virtuosity.
In other words, while technically and superficially there's a lot of life
going on within the album, on closer look it turns out to be painfully
shallow. Who needs all these intricate vocal harmonies, medieval cellos
and special effects when there's simply no sense in the songs? And no atmosphere
either. Except as mediocre background music for the progressive-oriented
ear, the album simply does not qualify.
What use do I have, for instance, for the ridiculous instrumental 'The
Boys In The Band'? I admit the laughter and the flick of the coin in the
intro are amusing, but would that mean I'd have to pardon the tune? It's
just a routine, ordinary jazz instrumental with nothing special about it,
and I could care less about the time signature - if I want quality 'jazz-prog',
I'll take the real King Crimson or Frank Zappa over this any day.
Likewise, I totally despise the ugly, dissonant, mantraic 'Knots', an avantgarde/psychedelic
'mini-suite' that showcases the band at its most insecure and uncertain;
the nasty overdubbed vocals don't give me anything but a headache. If this
is music, I'll better limit myself to cooking.
Some say that on Octopus the band took a 'heavier' approach than
on the previous albums. Well, if that's the case, some of the previous
albums must have been softer than Renaissance (by the way, parts of Three
Friends rock out more convincingly than everything on here); the only
song that at least slightly approaches 'heavy' is 'A Cry For Everyone',
an okayish tune that's actually enjoyable at certain moments, with Gary
Green playing a la Tony Iommi (and no, I don't mean the degree of
heaviness, rather the chord progressions); however, even that one becomes
boring when it deteriorates into synth-based jams along the way. 'Heavy'
is also an epithet I've met in conjunction with the album's centerpiece,
'The Advent Of Panurge'; while the very idea of the song being 'heavy'
is ridiculous, the song is one of the two or three only 'real good' songs
on the record. Lyrics-wise, it takes an episode from Francois Rabelais'
'Pantagruel' (that of Pantagruel's meeting with the mendicant 'philosopher'
Panurges; the theme of Pantagruel is actually carried over by the band
from one of its previous albums) and translates it into lyrical form; melody-wise,
it wisely alternates more of that avantgarde jazzy rambling with medieval
influences - especially interesting and almost charming, I'd say, are the
introductory vocal harmonies. Maybe the band should have simply transformed
'Pantagruel' into a full-fledged rock opera? On the other hand, their more
direct attempt at creating some sort of medieval hymn in 'Raconteur Troubadour'
doesn't work at all; apparently, they overestimate the complexity of medieval
music, and come out with a hardly listenable mess.
Even the balladeering department is in decline. Gorgeous ballads are what
had always dstinguished the band in the past; this time around, there's
but one ballad on the entire album, and it's hardly anything more than
'okay' (the pretty, but never climactic 'Think Of Me With Kindness'). And
only the final 'River', with its brilliant guitar/violin duet, has managed
to draw my attention from the very start; not that the melodies on that
one are really stronger than anything else on the record, but I was very,
very much impressed by that dual attack on your eardrums (ever heard a
wah-wah and a violin screech in unison? Makes a groovy sound!)
But in general, the record just made a very sad impression on me. At the
height of prog, when minor masterpieces like Foxtrot or Thick
As A Brick were the norm of the day, Gentle Giant come up with this?
A disjointed collection of lacklustre, uninspired jazzy jams? Who really
cares? If you're not a progressive freak like the dudes that write reviews
for www.prog.net and mostly judge a song by (a) the number of minutes it
runs, (b) the number of times the band changes time signatures, and (c)
the number of chords used in it, you'll hate this album just like me, because,
well, you're bound to.
Think of me with kindness when you mail your ideas
Your worthy comments:
Ben Greenstein <[email protected]> (14.03.2000)
You're crazy. I LOVE this stuff. I find it really easy to get caught up in the melodies and creative instrumental noises that are oh-so-abundant. Maybe listening to Zappa has just desensetized my ears to the "avantgarde," but the only track that really sounds "dissonant" to my ears is "Knots," and that one's interesting just for being so wierd. The instrumenal is great, "Advent Of Panurge" and "River" are prog-rock personified, and "Think Of Me With Kindness" is beautiful pop. "Rancontuer Troubadour" is great, too. A 10/10.
Eric X Kuns <[email protected]> (29.06.2000)
Your reviews are interesting and provocative. You get the pieces and sometimes shell out heavy compliments for G.G. (claiming you could assemble various of their songs into an awesome 60 minute tape compilation), but you miss that the whole of Gentle Giant is greater than the sum of their parts. You skipped their best album, by the way, which is The Power and the Glory. You should check that one out. It's both the most accessible and the most challenging. Your criticisms of the band crack me up. Anyway, Octopus is an awesome album, and "Advent of Panurge" may be their best song period. The band often fails miserably in their attempts, but sometimes they succeed, and the result in unlike anything else (as opposed to the bands that set out to do something ordinary and achieve it with flying colors). 'Advent' has some really cool piano (yeah, a little like on "Cat Food" by Crimson), and even strange unknown words and what sounds like a burp in the middle transitional sections. It has a smooth intricate sound that I tend to associate with the cover art of the puss in a jar. Like the jarred octopus it's a bit hermetic (too many brothers in the same band--makes me think of creepy correspondence between twins that only the twins can understand), intelligent, and yes cold. Originality is to be appreciated, when it succeeds, and G.G. have succeeded in crafting some of the, if not THE most original and unusual of songs. Basically you didn't get it.
David Albert <[email protected]> (02.08.2000)
I think Octopus contains mostly classical GG songs, but the don`t constitute an union as a whole. "The Advent of Panurge" is great, with all it`s complex, changing melodies, vocal arrangements and contrapuntal work. It has different lines played at the same time and rather efffective shifts of sections, but I believe it`s slightly overrated. "A Cry For Everyone" shows how driving prog can be, even with all it`s different time signatures and melody lines and "The Boys In The Band" is simply an adventure for the listener, with it`s different parts, all virtuosely played. "Think Of Me With Kindness" gives proof of GG`s ability in writing nice "conventional" songs without sounding boring. "Raconteur Troubadour" really succeeds in capturing something of the medievel English troubadour, but lets enough space for the "usual" complex arrangements. "River" creates, as the band explains, several atmospheres within one song, features a groovy guitar-violin duet, too. In my opinion "Knots" emphases a bit too much the complex vocal arrangements and sounds a bit too forced. All in all the record has quite a couple of nice songs, it`s not a masterwork, but a very good one. A 10.
Kevin Muckenthaler <[email protected]> (17.10.2000)
This is a great album and probably the band's high point. "The Advent of Panurge" is the best song, with medieval sounding opening vocals and almost Tullish parts when the whole band plays. "Raconteur Troubadour" continues the feel of the middle ages. It has some nifty violin, a pretty strange rhythm, and amusing lyrics and vocals: "I will make you LAUGH, revel merry-DANCE." "A Cry For Everyone" adopts more of a straightforward rock feel, but it isn't your average rock song. Then comes the strange vocal fugue of "Knots." It's so weird that you have to give them SOME credit for doing it. It's actually pretty humorous, too. "The Boys in the Band" is a whirlwind complicated rocker that is somewhat repetitive, but still remains fresh. I love the laugh/coinspin intro. "Dog's Life" is a hilarious tongue in cheek number including an obnoxious reed organ and string section. "Think of Me With Kindness" is a good, almost traditional love song. Almost. "River" has a weird little riff that appears throughout, and is an all-around interesting track. The one part of the album I don't like are Derek's vocals on this song. They sound hideously off when he first starts singing. Everything else on the album is good, though.
<[email protected]> (08.11.2000)
no melodies - are you sure you and I are listening to the same record?
Year Of Release: 1973
Record rating = 8
Overall rating = 10
About as much avantgarde and dissonance as before, but this time
it's at least more melodic and more rational.
Best song: AN INMATES LULLABY
I actually like this more than Octopus, despite the fact that
the band mostly follows the same formula. Moreover, they tend to really
go over the fence: this time around, there are but six tunes, some of them
really really extended and even less concentrated than before, as the band
keeps switching in between various themes and tempos. And, unlike Octopus,
no particular tune on here really 'sticks out' like you'd want it to: no
'River' or 'Advent Of Panurge' on here.
Instead, the band returns to conceptualism - the entire album, so is said,
is devoted to the idea that you shouldn't throw stones while living in
a glass house. One might interpret that slogan in many different ways;
but it should be noted that the lyrics on the album are for the most part
pessimistic, condemning both the society ('The Runaway') and the individual
living in that society ('Experience'). And overall, the record is kinda
grim, starting from the 'grayish', discoloured music and ending with the
album cover. However, I do prefer its grimness and pessimism to the overall
absurdity and pointlessness of Octopus; at least, on here the boys
sound like they really want to make a statement (or two) and not
just run around like fools without making sense.
The album begins brilliantly - with the sounds of breaking glass which
finally develop into a rhythmic pattern, a technology the band doubtlessly
copped from Pink Floyd's ringing cash registers on 'Money'. This rhythm
fades out, giving way to 'The Runaway', a track that rocks pretty hard
but goes on for far too long and has absolutely ineffective vocals; the
lyrics, about an outcast and his feelings about the world, are very good
- in fact, the album arguably features the band's best set of lyrics ever
- but I feel that the band failed to give them more poignancy with an effective
vocal workout.
Not so with 'An Inmates Lullaby', however - the song is very pretty and
strikes me as a near-masterpiece. Essentially, it's supposed to be a confession
of a patient in an asylum, and it's both sad and joyful at the same time.
Joyful, because they give the impression of a person completely happy and
comfortable with his fate: 'Lying down here in the afternoon/In my pretty
cozy little cushioned room/I can talk to all my funny friends in here/I
was told to rest why... I am not quite clear'. And Kerry sings them in
a light, pleasant falsetto, while the only instruments playing are numerous
vibes and soft, unobtrusive percussion, giving the impression of 'paradise
on Earth'. Sad, because it's a wee bit creepy when you try to put yourself
in that place... anyway, the song features one of the most effective and
wonderful examples of vibes playing I ever heard.
The funny thing, however, is that 'Way Of Life' starts out as a... Dance
Tune! Somebody shouts out 'GO' and the band breaks into a fast, disco-ish
groove based on a repetitive synth pattern. I mean, I could only qualify
that rhythm as disco with a little hint of Latin influences; disco two
or three years before it actually took off? Man, that was probably considered
pretty avantgarde for its time. Funny, isn't it? The first ever disco song
produced by a pure progressive band (who have an excuse, as they probably
never suspected it was disco). Apart from that, the tune is not very attractive
- once again, ineffective, whiny vocals from Derek and the least interesting
vocals on the album. Even the gentle mid-section with all these violins
never helps.
'Experience', then, is the second side's best track: a typical Gentle Giant
medieval stylization in the style of 'Advent Of Panurges'; nowhere near
as exciting, but with some beautiful vocals and interesting lyrics telling
us about a person's maturation and reevaluation of his past and present.
'A Reunion' hardly has any distinct melody, but the atmosphere is nice,
and violins, once again, are a great touch to the tune. Finally, the title
track finishes the album on a good note: the sections gel together, they
get some real hard-rockin' parts towards the end of the song, some nice
steel guitar, and hey, the violins are still there.
Now, to tell you the truth, I look back at my review of Octopus
and I really don't understand what made me despise that album so much and
despise Glass House to such a lesser extent. I'd say it is primarily
the feeling of sense in the music. Octopus, to me, was a
more or less pointless sound collage that came out of nowhere and headed
back to the same place; apart from self-indulgence, it didn't amount to
much. In A Glass House, with its vague, but existent, concept, puts
Gentle Giant's artsy ambitions on a solid base of 'social philosophy' (in
a certain way, it's a return to the aesthetics of Three Friends).
It's still rather dull, and has to be listened to really hard and really
long before it can be at least partly appreciated, but at least the existence
of such a record is justified. You can even identify with it, if you're
in the mood.
In any case, my rants in this case are hardly of any use to anybody - the
record is currently out of print everywhere, not even available
as an import. I was lucky to get a pirated CD of it; if you're a Gentle
Giant fan, try the used CD stores. It's rather strange, actually, that
such an important record as this one is out of print when, say, Giant
For A Day (a better record, IMHO, but certainly not a great buy for
the fans) is not, but such are small mysteries of life. Speaking of small
mysteries of life, how come nobody's yet commented on Brian Eno's Before
And After Science apart from my trusty friend, Mr Richard C. Dickison?
Didn't I mention that it's one of the greatest albums ever to be put out
since the heyday of rock'n'roll? AND YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT IT YET? Do you
think it's fun being a reviewer when nobody ever follows your advices?
Tough crowd! Tough crowd!
Way of life: mailing your ideas
Your worthy comments:
Ben Greenstein <[email protected]> (04.05.2000)
Okay, so maybe this band is one of those who only put out two great albums and a bunch of crap. This album isn't bad, but it isn't very good either, with a lot of self-indulgent playing and not enough strong melodies (funny - isn't that what you don't like about Octopus?) "An Inmate's Lullaby" is fantastic, and "The Runaway" is pretty cool, too. I don't get what's so cool about "Experience," although it seems to be one of the band's most popular songs. I say, if you're going to try and make a song "medieval," and you're in a band legendary for unique instrumentation, then give it some 12 string. What is this keyboard crap that's all over this album? I hate it! It sounds like Yes! I give it a seven.
David Albert <[email protected]> (31.07.2000)
This is my favourite album, it`s simply the best. Well, I admit I`m a prog and hardcore GG fan, but so what? With In A Glass House GG demonstrate, without any hearable exertion, how to mix rock, contrapuntal work, extravagant instrumentation, acrobatical vocals, folky themes and jazz. The results are great songs like "The Runaway", where different themes and riffs are introduced and worked out in an unachieved way. "An Immates Lullaby" is also unique, played only with percussion instruments, leaves you with a very bizarre impression of the asylum and it`s patient. But there are also beautiful melodies, for example the middle section of "Way of Life" or "A Reunion", which is a kind of short break to relax a bit. "Experience" is maybe the highlight, a very great rock song!!!;lots of different phases and time signatures including contrapuntal polyphony, an organ-bass-vocal chorale, some rocking lead guitar and much more. But everything fits ! The title track begins with very fast violin work, lapses back into slower parts, but that naturally doesn`t stay so...another masterpiece. It may take time to get used to it, but if you discover it, you`ll get to know prog from it`s finest side, without one dull moment, really. A good concept, instrumental mastership, beautiful arrangements; very entertaining - clearly a 12
Year Of Release: 2000
Record rating = 7
Overall rating = 9
What? Who? Where? Oh, this one! Well, I guess it rules - I just get
kinda tired of twiddling the volume up and down, up and down...
Best song: FUNNY WAYS
An archive release. A blessing for fans. A real treat for elitist critics.
I get that. Gentle Giant are an excellent live band - see The Official
Live below for some general remarks about their abilities. Good timing,
too: by 1974 their catalogue was more or less complete, with tons of excellent
first class material (sometimes overshadowed by self-indulgent dissonant
crap, but let's be forgiving) and almost guaranteeing them the big time:
their last album dented the charts, Europe greeted them with open arms
and you know the rest. This record features seventy minutes of first-rate
Gentle Giant live material, during which they play three lengthy medleys
plus 'Funny Ways' and entertain the croud in a thoroughly gentle and a
thoroughly gigantic way, with polyphonic jams, wah-wah violin solos, violent
drum battles, and ominous synthesizer symphonies. The only question is...
...what's the goddamn deal with the recording quality? This is an archive,
yet official release, and yet I can not only say that I've heard many bootlegs
of better quality, but even that out of any official live releases
I have so far, yes, even including old Sixties' releases where the instruments
are usually hidden behind the screaming girls, this one's undoubtedly the
worst. Rummaging around the Gentle Giant site, I found out that Live
Rome 1974 is in fact taken directly from an older bootleg, formerly
called Giant Steps Forward. The stupendous thing is, they did nothing
with that bootleg - just stamped 'official' on it, changed the title and
went ahead. Now frankly, I have to ask myself if anybody ever actually
listened to this disc before sending it to CD stores. Even crappy
bootlegs can be worked wonders with - you know, clean up the tape, adjust
the mix, straighten out all the volume levels, whatever. Nobody gave a
damn. No sooner do you put on the record than you're submitted to at least
several changes in tone, volume, and frequency. The drums kick in and then
suddenly disappear, together with the keyboards. The volume floats as if
the mixing board was caught in the middle of a storm. To top it off, an
alarm clock goes off somewhere (I'm not making this up!) and goes on buzzing
for at least thirty or fourty seconds while Derek Shulman actually begins
singing. In all, you're in for a real treat.
It does get better later on - seems like at some point the engineers finally
caught a 'good' positioning of all the switches and tumblers, but that
doesn't mean the problems disappear: they just become less obnoxious and
more naggin'. You'll be bound to fiddle around with your volume throughout:
remember that Gentle Giant were great fans of the 'stop-and-start' techniques,
as well as of alternating slow/quiet and loud/aggressive sections, but
the mixing board sure can't be taught that. There are periods when
I don't hear anything for about a minute - turning up the volume, I find
out that they had been playing some interesting musical theme all that
time! Curses! I turn it up louder, and then Kerry goes BOOM with a really
loud synthesizer passage and I just fly out the window. Bummer. The damn
engineers should have been shot, and the creep who decided to let this
go without specially preparing the tapes should follow suite.
With all these problems, it's no wonder the actual performances kinda just
fade away. A pity, that, because Gentle Giant actually played strong on
that night (to be precise, November 26, 1974), and there are lots of treats
for the fan, most of which are at least partially spoilt because of the
quality. The opening jam has an excellent rendition of 'Proclamation',
for instance (also, strange enough, the track listing has 'Giant' as part
of the introduction medley, but I never really found any 'Giant' on there.
Where?). 'Funny Ways' is 'Funny Ways', and will always be; this will probably
be my favourite Gentle Giant tune of all time, at least on all live recordings.
The Glass House medley is not that hot, but the Octopus medley,
bar 'Knots', is fabulous - beautiful acoustic guitar and recorder solos
on that one. And the magnum opus of the record, the closing jam
(consisting of 'Nothing At All', 'Plain Truth', and lots of Weird Inaccessible
Instrumental Stuff), also has its moments, most notably the schizophrenic
violin soloing and the engaging violin/guitar battles; however, it also
has a prolongated drum solo which suddenly starts being accompanied with
shrill whistling. I haven't got the least idea why everything that John
Weathers hits suddenly replies with a whistle. Who's whistling? The mixing
board? Or is it just Derek Shulman who's got nothing better to do? STOP
THOSE WHISTLES! They drive me crazy!
Are you still with me? Be off with you then: Live Rome 1974 is only
recommendable for the ultimate in diehard fans, and even then, you might
wanna pass if you're not collecting Gentle Giant bootlegs. Anybody who
wants to have a high quality live Gentle Giant recording are better off
with Playing The Fool. Well, at least this one has some cool pictures
(I, for one, never could imagine the band was so vivid and active onstage).
But I'm still left wondering - if they were so painfully searching for
a nice archive release, and if they were so lazy they couldn't give the
recording at least a superficial 'cleaning', couldn't they at least have
found a better bootleg? This is a real shame...
Proclamation: mail
your ideas!
INTERVIEW

Year Of Release: 1976
Record rating = 4
Overall rating = 6
Extremely twisted and dissonant jazzy stuff. Definitely not for me,
and probably not for you.
Best song: INTERVIEW
Now this is some prime crap. I mean, what the hell, it makes
Octopus sound like the angels' music in comparison. Apparently,
Interview was Gentle Giant's response to their trusty fans who'd
suspected their music had begun to 'commercialize' on some of the previous
albums. 'Commercialize', Bros Shulmans declared? 'We give you THIS!' And
they gave out such a mind-and-everything-else-blowing experience that after
they'd completed it, there was no further choice for them but to really
commercialize their music.
Interview is formally structured as a 'conceptual' album - the record
begins with the band arriving at some place as if to hold a real
interview with a real interviewer, and the songs are interrupted from time
to time with bits and pieces of the band's dialogue with the interviewer.
However, casting these bits and the lyrics of the title track (which could
really be judged as some kind of poetic interview) aside, the only 'conceptual'
idea of the album seems to be the universal motto - 'play as dissonant
as possible and if you degenerate to 4/4 you're gonna get it'. Most of
these songs are horrendous, atrocious garbage, and I'm not afraid to say
that. Judging from the pure perspective of 'enjoyability', Interview
ranks as one of the worst albums I've ever heard, and it's indeed the kind
of record that gives progressive rock a bad name - fortunately, too few
people ever heard it to make any serious conclusions.
Kill me. Just kill me. I don't even know how to begin trying to describe
any of these songs. They are so full of everything - and at the same time,
so empty and devoid of any real excitement. Overall, the band adopts a
very lightweight sound on most of the tracks, ditching both any attempts
at orchestration and their 'heavy' tendencies. The guitars just squeak
and prick, and Kerry seems to play his vibes most of the time, neglecting
pianos and organs; another prominent feature is the frequent reliance on
untrivial, atonal vocal harmonies. Needless to say, the emotional impact
of all these exercises is close to an absolute zero, and ninety-nine percent
of the instrumentals are deadly dull, in the worst traditions of King Crimson
(a la 'Moonchild' and all that).
In fact, I can only stand the first and last songs on the album. 'Interview'
itself is, more or less, okay. Not that it really 'rocks' or something,
even if it really tries; but at least it has some darn drive to
it, with Gary pumping out these clever little bouncy guitar lines and Kerry
accompanies him on the organ. And the song actually has verses which you
can sing along to (a rare luck on such a record); plus, the lyrics, structured
as a response to the 'interviewer', are among the band's best; the band
does display a bit too much modesty when they chant 'want to be seen rock'n'roll
music/don't take us something we're not', but overall the song produces
a good, credible effect. And likewise, the album closer, the folk-meets-hard-rock
'I Lost My Head' is quite funny, so that I don't even notice how hard it
is to follow the vocals when they don't just sing against the melody,
they actually sing, like, despite the melody. I'm no musician, but
I have a dangling suspicion that Kerry actually sings and Gary plays in
different tempos, not to mention tonalities... Anyway, the song could be
quite imaginable as filler on an average GG album; here, it's a definite
highlight. Kudos to Mr Einstein.
I suppose you know what comes next - venomous, ironic, completely offensive
bashing of the other five songs from the album. Well, calm down: I'd really
like to bash 'em, but the problem is, I don't remember what they sound
like, and my entire organism, starting from the heels, really protests
against replaying the album for a sixth time (yeah, and I do think humanity
owes me a medal of honour). I only remember that they are all pretty whiny
and squeaky, and from time to time the band breaks into a half-cool, but
also half-cooked reggae rhythm ('Design'), which only showcases their inability
to do anything truly creative with it. I also remember how I used to shiver
each time the dissonant, utterly chaotic harmonies of 'Another Show' disturbed
my relative peace - hell, they're even nastier than 'Knots'. And I also
remember that 'Empty City' was the only song there that came close to grabbing
my attention with some particularly loony special synth effects and a certain
desperation in Derek's voice that really suited the track's title and pessimistic
lyrics.
Man, this really takes time, patience, and, above all, a lot of will
to appreciate this record. Likewise, it takes a lot of will to appreciate
Frank Zappa's Lumpy Gravy and King Crimson's THRaKaTTaK.
And there's hardly any significant reason in this world for which I'd want
to waste my time on trying to assimilate the meandering and meaningless
dissonance of Interview. And don't bother telling me that the record
displays a lot of technical mastership - I know what technical mastership
really is, heck, I owe all of King Crimson's regular releases. This is,
in fact, dull, and was probably intended as dull and esoteric.
Is it an irony of fate, then, that Interview was followed by some
of Gentle Giant's most commonly accessible albums? Probably not.
I lost my head and still haven't found your ideas
Your worthy comments:
Ben Greenstein <[email protected]> (02.06.2000)
Now this one certainly is dissonant. I don't dislike it as much as you, but I don't think it's very memorable, either. I don't like the title track - it's the third time the band has tried to rewrite "Proclomation," and I wasn't too big a fan in the first place. "I Lost My Head" is a really good song, though, and "Another Show" is cool. A high five.
David Albert <[email protected]> (07.08.2000)
While recording Interview the band stood under high time pressure, they did the whole thing (including composition!) in 4 weeks, Derek Shulman even said that they would do the overdubs in the record stores... The consequence was that they didn`t had as many creative ideas as usual and they lapsed into a sort of routine. That is not necessarily bad, because very speaking of a very genius and great band, for that reason even the routine is very good, but of course not revolutionary or avantgarde like their other releases. They kind of reminisced about their musical past and tried to sum it up on this record. I said tried, because they were not always successful. "Another Show" reminds me of "Cogs In Cogs" ( from The Power And The Glory, which is better than "Another Show". "Design" is a strange number like "So Sincere" (also from The Power And The Glory). But there exist also nice examples: "Interview" is a song in the tradition of "Proclamation" or "Just The Same" (Free Hand), but with a very different arrangement. The piano part sounds cool, same as the harpsichord solo later, it is a great number! "I Lost My Head" is in his whole conception a bit like "In A Glass House", but less complex, and in his way great, too. The other songs are mainly new, "Give It Back" makes out of a 7/8-5/8-rhythm a kind of reggae. "Timing" sounds more freely played and grows on to you. in my opinion, Interview is a below average prog-record, well made, although it lacks partly the great ideas of other GG releases - a 10.
Year Of Release: 1976
Record rating = 10
Overall rating = 12
Seems like these guys recorded their studio albums in one take -
this sounds exactly like 'em, only diversified and with far less crap than
usual.
Best song: FUNNY WAYS (duh)
Nyah nyah nyah, this is Gentle Giant's one and only live album released
while the band was still alive, and it kicks the shit out of any live Pink
Floyd record in existence. Actually, I didn't like it at first, not at
all. It has 'Knots' on it, which, as far as I'm concerned, is still
the ugliest song recorded by the band, and it was a rather silly idea to
pair 'Peel The Paint' with 'I Lost My Head', even if the latter is
one of the best numbers on Interview. But most of all, I was somewhat
offended by the fact that the tunes sounded exactly like their studio
counterparts. We all know that in their prime, Gentle Giant had penned
some of the most complex melodies in rock music and spiced 'em up with
some of the most intricate vocal harmonies and deeply elaborate arrangements
in same genre. The fact that the band could rather easily and without any
obvious strain reproduce every bit of these tricky arrangements
on stage is amazing - just listen to the way the band harmonizes on songs
like 'On Reflection' and tell me if anybody could outperform that
in that department. But after a whole hour and more of listening to these
flawless, ultra professional deliveries, I kinda get bored and even disappointed.
It seems as if Gentle Giant's only aim of being present onstage was to
show to everybody that yeah, they did have the galls to play all these
miriads of instruments and never make any mistakes in weaving the excesses
of their arrangements into the already complex enough main stem of the
melody. Well, as if I cared - after all, this was a necessary requirement
for prog rock bands at the time: if you didn't know how to reproduce your
sound on stage, you sucked among the 'serious' public (example: the Moody
Blues, who could never qualify as a prog rock band partially because of
their lack of 'prime live' abilities).
However, a couple more listens brought me to my senses and now I like this
record more than any other in the Giant catalog, maybe with the exception
of the debut album. First of all, it's not entirely true that they play
the songs in exactly the same way as they were before. They lengthen some
songs and shorten others, change around the lyrics, twist the numbers around
and arrange them in lengthy medleys, and they even throw in 'Sweet Georgia
Brown' at the end as a sweet short interlude (aptly subtitling it 'Breakdown
In Brussels'). And the playlist is pretty cool, too: the band never overrelies
on one album, even if they were supposed to be promoting their latest releases
(Freehand and the dreadful Interview). Instead, they draw
on practically every period of their career; only Acquiring The Taste
is omitted completely (bar the short instrumental part from the title track
in the Octopus medley), but there's at least one track from every
other album.
The high point, strange as it may seem, is the Octopus medley -
while I still can't share the idea that the record was the band's best,
arranging all the songs in a medley really works because the result never
gets boring. I wonder if that's a real coin they were flipping in the beginning
of 'Boys In The Band' or a pre-recorded sound? Flipping a real coin on
stage would be cool... Anyway, 'Boys In The Band' works here as a short
dynamic opener (in contrast to the overlong original), then proceed to
instrumental insertions from 'Raconteur Troubadour' and 'Acquiring The
Taste', then switch off to 'Knots' (again, it's at least interesting to
hear the band reproduce their ear-destructive vocal 'disharmonies' on stage),
and after some more 'medieval jamming' switch off to the wonderous 'Advent
Of Panurge' played in its entirety. It's actually great fun to hear them
hop around, switching between harder and softer parts, alternating Kerry's
weird synthnoisemaking with Gary Greene's pretty acoustic solos.
'Funny Ways' is another definite highlight... just because it's there,
actually: it's one of my favourite GG tunes, and although I mourn the loss
of the electric guitar solo, the main melody is still quite heavenly and
awe-inspiring. And as for the "sharp feelings", well, you'd have
to take 'Free Hand', then, another definite highlight. Ah, that vocal melody...
it might just be the most catchy piece that Gentle Giant really managed
to write in their 'prime years' of 1972-75. Kerry seems to be playing a
million keyboards all at once on that one - how can he really do that,
man? The funk hits even harder when Mr Greene puts on the wah-wah and makes
the song his own by delivering a red-hot solo of an almost Jimmy Page-like
stature.
Of course, it's not that I love everything on this album - this could never
be. Gentle Giant always walked the thin line between 'complex harmony'
and 'complex dissonance', and while songs like 'Proclamation' and 'Experience'
fall in the first category, others, like 'So Sincere', would rather fall
in the second one. But the main thing is to realize that there is a certain
aura about this live recording that makes it stand out in a class of its
own. Yeah, these guys do show off, but they're full of vital energy and
they demonstrate themselves as absolute masters. I mean, other bands would
take their material and drag it around the stage like lead stuck to their
shoes; Gentle Giant toss their melodies around as a tennisball, changing
them around, improvising at will and making it all sound far more natural
and far less strained than in the studio: this, to me, is the ultimate
proof to the fact that Gentle Giant made real music, after all, not just
piled loads upon loads of senseless chords in order to sound 'way cool,
dude'.
In other words, the record is indispensable for the 'dubious' gentlemen:
it could also work perfectly well as an all-encompassing introduction to
the Gentle Giant sound, better than any possible compilation. Although,
of course, I can hardly imagine that a serious fan couldn't want it either.
So sincere - if you mail your ideas, I'll post them
Your worthy comments:
Ben Greenstein <[email protected]> (27.07.2000)
Not too good. But the fans REALLY like it, for some reason. I guess
my problem is the song selection - they spend too much time playing those
dumb jerky pieces like "Proclomation" and "Just The Same,"
which I have NEVER cared for, and not enough time doing the spooky, atmospheric,
and enjoyable stuff (like ANYTHING from their sophomore album!). And "So
Sincere" (which is the worst song they've ever done by far, much uglier
than "Knots") is stretched out to over ten minutes. Not exactly
my idea of a fun listening experience. And why do they combine those two
songs at the end? One of the main features of those was that they were
multi-part!
Anyway, highlights include "Free Hand," "The Runaway,"
and the "Octopus" medley. Low points include just about everything
else, yes, even "Funny Ways." I give this album a lowish five.
Check out their BBC sessions if you want to hear them doing really well.
Year Of Release: 1977
Record rating = 7
Overall rating = 9
A not too successful attempt at mainstreaming the sound: too few
original melodies, really, and too much of this just plain drags.
Best song: MEMORIES OF OLD DAYS
Missing Piece starts a transitional period for Gentle Giant -
a period which, unfortunately, the band was not able to survive. This is
also the exact moment where hardcore GG fans usually start bashing the
very kidneys out of the band, and for an apparent reason. Gentle Giant
were one of these prog bands that preferred to try and 'mainstreamline'
their patented sound in the light of the so-called 'punk revolution' rather
than to simply disband or to bravely go on with no regards for total loss
of commercial success. Therefore, those fans that welcome any kind of music
as long as it's twisted and 'elitist' but cringe at the very mention of
the word 'pop' find this album and especially its follow-up disgusting.
But we the universal lovers, we'll try another approach, right? Let's just
try thinking of this album as a record by a pop band with slight prog inclinations,
rather than a record by a former prog band with mainstreamish tendencies,
and...
...hmm. Guess that doesn't work. Because, all corrections made and all
expectations lowered (highered? altered, in any case), I simply
don't like this album very much. Sure enough, there are some good pieces
of work here which I'll be discussing in a moment; but overall, the effect
is fairly boring. And anyway, why shouldn't it be? Contrary to diehard
prog fans' opinions, writing a good 'pop' song isn't any easier than writing
a good 'prog' song, and in a certain sense, it's much harder. When you're
dealing with the 'serious' stuff, you can get along on atmosphere and/or
twistedness alone (as Octopus clearly demonstrates, sometimes it's
simply enough to put a couple dozen different time signatures in a song
to make it sound 'artistic', yeah, right); but when it's just plain 'pop'
you're channelling, you have to put out catchy melodies, and that's a task
worthy of a Beatle.
In other words, you don't become a good pop band out of nothing. And Gentle
Giant's first try is certainly a misstep in that respect. Throwing away
the tricky time signatures, the band bravely confronts modern dance rhythms
as well as classic boogie woogie and generic balladeering - and one must
give them their due, they don't sound as if they are playing all this stuff
for the first time in their lives. But apparently they decided that sticking
to the 'traditional formulas' was enough for them - did they really think
that the melodies and the catchiness would come along with everything else?
It didn't. Generic, casual rockers like 'For Nobody' and formulaic power
ballads like 'I'm Turning Around' may not be horrid per se, but
there's simply no reason for them to exist, much less any reason for them
to be produced by such a band as Gentle Giant. Track after track goes virtually
unnoticed by me: when they're ballads, they're slow and dragging, when
they're rockers, they're... even slower and more dull. 'Who Do You Think
We Are?' is pathetic, a braggard, posing, self-indulgent piece dedicated
to star life, and there could hardly be anything more stupid in this life
of ours than the lyrics to 'Mountain Time', which is essentially a banal
lounge ditty that I could possibly expect from the likes of a Ringo Starr
(on a very bad day), but not from such a respected band as GG.
But don't despair. Hope often comes when you think everything is lost.
This time, it comes represented by a couple of short tunes that are fresher
and somewhat more invigorating than all the rest on here. The introductory
'Two Weeks In Spain', while it does smell of corny silliness, has such
an incredibly attractive, bouncy punch to it (what's that intoxicating
rhythm called, I wonder? Is it even Latin American?) that anybody who dares
call the song a 'throwaway' will have it up his or her throat from me...
virtually, I mean. I really don't like to fight (I'm not even able.)
Anyway, I was speaking of good material - well, there's also this terribly
short, abruptly-ending piece of boogie called 'Betcha Thought We Couldn't
Do It', with lyrics that are quite actual for Gentle Giant's 1977 status:
'I bet you thought we couldn't do it/And if you did we wouldn't try/I bet
you thought we couldn't do it/But if we didn't we would die'. Well, they
did it, and on this track they did it well - currently the song holds my
record for 'best boogie-woogie guitar solo on a 'progressive band' record'.
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, that solo is damn great. Dig it! Go, Gary,
go! Show these prog cats some real rock'n'roll!
Also, I was able to forgive 'Winning' its unattractive melody because of
all the weird King Crimson-ian percussion noises. But the real treat of
the album is 'Memories Of Old Days', a long and fruitful nostalgic epic
that's possibly the only 'potential prog' material on the record. And hey,
maybe the song does not epitomize 'beauty', but it's certainly one of the
most poignant and moving odes that the band had ever squeezed out. The
acoustic guitars and synths (and later on, the organs) rise in a charming
medieval/Easternish harmony, and Derek sings the lyrics with great passion
and emotional power. It's always nice to see a super progressive band wax
nostalgic, as they usually do it better than your average pop band, and
it's even nicer to encounter such a great hidden gem among a sea of mediocre
rubbish. At least, it'll give you something not to regret your money about
(I suppose I've put an object too many in that last sentence, but hey,
it's always nice to stretch the language's possibilities).
Of course, one great song and two good ones do not a decent album make.
I suppose you all just take the name of the album as a hint and make this
your last Gentle Giant purchase, if you're actually interested in the band
at all. And yeah, I realize I rated it the same as Octopus, but
Octopus is at least interesting from a technical point of view,
while there's really nothing that exciting or innovative about Missing
Piece. To put it another way, I mostly shake hands with GG fans for
this one. But definitely not so when it comes to the follow-up...
Who do you think you are?
How come you still haven't mailed your
ideas?
GIANT
FOR A DAY 
Year Of Release: 1978
Record rating = 9
Overall rating = 11
One of the best pop albums of the 'punk epoch', gruesomely underrated
by almost anyone. Don't believe 'em, believe me.
Best song: ROCK CLIMBER
I already see the endless line of flames from 'generic Gentle Giant
fans', most of which go like this: 'your tastes are a threat to an intelligent
listener. You dismiss this band's greatest progressive masterpieces and
have the nerve to praise this pop-slop piece of rubbish? Why don't you
spend some more time out of your braindead kindergarten, listening to real
music that takes some time and patience to get into, instead of falling
for this piece of cheese?..'
Heh heh, just made all the ensuing reader comments superfluous. This is
quite a strong album, and I could care less whether it's 'prog' or 'pop'.
By 1978, Gentle Giant's transformation into a 'pop' band was indeed completed:
there's not even a single 'epic' track on the entire record, and most of
the songs here can easily be classified as 'pop' or 'rock'n'roll', with
a couple minor exceptions. But there are a couple more things that Gentle
Giant fans usually omit from view. Actually, they don't really omit 'em,
they simply disregard 'em, because even fans have to admit that for a 'pop'
album, this is a pretty good one. And that's all I need to know. This is
one of the best pop albums of 1978, and it easily beats Genesis' And
Then There Were Three, released the same year: the songs are shorter,
catchier, more up to the point and undeniably more energetic. (Rumour has
it that there was a 'competition' between these two bands for capturing
pop audiences, and Gentle Giant finally lost and had to disband. Well,
one more pretext to pity the mass audiences' tastes).
Out of the ten pieces on here, I actively dislike just one or two, and
it shows how much the band has matured in just one year after the 'mainstream
transformation'. Perhaps the most noticeable change is that the album really
rocks: the tempos are generally faster than on Missing Piece,
and there's much more emphasis on the guitars than keyboards. On certain
songs, there are even punkish influences to be seen - but, like every intelligent
band, Gentle Giant were able to sift through the dreck and fish out the
best elements of punk (speed, catchiness and energy) while dissing the
worst (monotonousness, unprofessionalism and vulgarity). And the album
is much more diverse than the previous one, with numbers ranging from 'prog-pop'
to boogie to jazz to power ballads to acoustic ballads to, like I said,
'punk'. I'd say that 'It's Only Goodbye' is the only track here that could
rank as atrocious, because in its structure and instrumentation I see the
smelly traces of populist arena-rock, with 'artificially cathartic' guitar
lines a la Scorpions or late Aerosmith and dumb lyrics that don't
compensate for nothing. And the verses of 'Take Me' have always struck
me as particularly annoying ('I'm lookin' back, my life is cryin' out/What
did I do, what was I all about?'; not that I mind the lyrics, but the way
they are sung reminds me of Mother Goose).
But the other numbers don't show any signs of wearing out on me - on the
contrary, most of this stuff grows and grows! You don't believe me? Just
look and see! No better start for an album than with the energetic, encouraging
Yes-ish mantraic chant of 'Words From The Wise': yeah, I did say 'Yes-ish',
because the song brings up close associations with that band's 'I've Seen
All Good People' (which is one of my favourite Yes numbers), and it's just
as catchy and memorable. 'Words from the wise, believe in you, all I do
is believe in me'. Wonderful lines. Great atmosphere. Cool stuff. Even
fans usually like it.
Then there's 'Thank You', a plaintive, sincere, heartfelt acoustic ballad
that's at least three times better than Led Zep's number of the same name.
The fans usually see this as a farewell song, judging by lyrics like 'thank
you for staying around so long, I know it's been hard'. They may be right,
too, but so much the better, as it gives the song even more emotional impact
and Derek's worn-and-torn vocals even more authenticity. Pretty stuff.
How can one hate this?
And the title track? Heh heh. I love that song. It sounds absolutely,
totally stupid - like a cross between a Chuck Berry rocker, a Clash protest
song and a Spanish guitar improvisation. Drummer John Weathers almost steals
the show with his precise, bombastic crashing, but the guitars embellish
the song magnificently, and the weird vocal harmonies, amusing lyrics and
the pulsating drive of the keyboards underpinning the song all contribute
to a nearly unique experience. While not the best song on the album, 'Giant
For A Day' is definitely a unique exercise in combining musical styles
and must be recognized as such. Bizarre stuff.
'Spooky Boogie' is a great jazzy instrumental, with a powerful drive and
a carefully constructed, engaging melody (mighty stuff); 'Little Brown
Bag' rocks along like a drunk elephant, with fresh, clear and exciting
guitars all around (rousing stuff; and hey, don't you think that the vocal
melody in the verses is copped from the Kinks' 'Tired Of Waiting For You'?);
'Friends' is yet another sincere, attractive acoustic ballad, this time
featuring John Weathers on vocals (moving stuff); and 'No Stranger' is
just a nice, pleasant shuffle with Derek adopting a strange 'consolating'
intonation that makes the song incredibly warm and homely (soothing stuff).
Hmm? Oh yeah. The album closes with 'Rock Climber', a pop masterpiece that's
bound to take its place in my Top 10 Gentle Giant songs, no matter what
albums I'll hear next. The contrast between the odd, almost reggaeish verses,
and their climactic transformation into the all-out rockin' refrain - 'Rock
climber/Good timer/ Backstager/All-nighter...' - is truly addictive. Add
to this the delicious electric piano introduction and the energy-filled
guitar solos, and there you got it, the ultimate pop-rocker you ever needed
in your entire life.
Well, I suppose I've really ran out of things to say, so I'll just state
that, in my humble opinion, this is one of the most severely underrated
rock'n'roll albums I've ever heard. I can see why 'progressive fans' hate
it, but the only reason I can see for the All-Music Guide to have given
it one and a half stars is that the dude who gave out the rating was either
a 'progressive fan' himself or that he never actually listened to it, drawing
his 'inspiration' from other people's opinions. Now if only Gentle Giant
were a band as highly recognized as, say, Genesis, the album would be given
enough praise, simply because more people would have listened to it. As
such, I suppose I'm the only 'prog-pop listener' in the world that gave
the record a careful listen, and so should everybody else, instead of just
complaining of 'slop-pop' and 'pop-slop'. Let's hope history reinstates
justice.
Also, I don't understand what is there so offensive about the original
album cover, which featured a real mask that had to be cut out of
the sleeve and worn on your face so you could be 'giant for a day'. To
me, sounds fun. I mean, I hate masks, but there sure are people that love
'em. Carnivalesque. Groovy. Tasteless? Just don't get it. Sorry.
Words from the wise are needed; mail your ideas, please!
Your worthy comments:
Ben Greenstein <[email protected]> (04.05.2000)
How anyone could like this album that much is beyond me. You're really that impressed with "Thank You"? Sounds repetitive, uninspired, and almost lifeless to me. "Take Me" sounds like something by Rick Springfield, and the title track is so utterly stupid I can't help but turn it off. "Rock Climber" and "Words For The Wise" are certainly guilty pleasures, and "Friends" is sort of pretty (if you've never heard a Randy Newman or Tom Waits album), but the rest is very lame. And there isn't even a trace of punk on here! Not one song even attempts to use raw energy - or any energy at all! "Spooky Boogie" sounds like the soundtrack to an 80's horror film. And for the record, I did give it a fair listen. I'm not one of those stuck-up prog fans who turn their noses up at anything easy to play (come on! I like Talking Heads!), but nothing can change the fact that this is a very bad pop album. I give it a three!