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<Shane> what's a wizard?
<omega> a wizard is a magician, healer, teacher, and more
<GrayMind> Shane - that is a good question.
<omega> hey you nod exactly like merlin in the book
<Watcher> A wizard can turn fear to joy, frustration to
   fulfillment.
<Shane> yeah well how do you turn fire to warm and ice to warm?
<Shane> fire in the tummy and mind yuk
<omega> it's alchemy shane
<Shane> how is that alchemy?
<GrayMind>I try to incorporate the archetype into my daily life.
<Shane> did aliens cause me to feel that?
<GrayMind> Aliens?
<Shane> well I already told God not Jesus but God God
<Shane> yep I saw them first
<GrayMind> Before who?
<Shane> both times this has happened I saw thier faces first
<Shane> before bad men, giants and demons attacked me
<Shane> now due to this
<omega> so shane are they still after you?
<Shane> I am beginning to think
<Shane> that none of this is real whatsoever
<Shane> and that humans got hypnotized
<Shane> and told a story about religions
<Shane> by the grey beings
<GrayMind> It sounds like you've been reading some Descartes
<Shane> I do not know whom that man is
<omega> well this gray mind is Ok here shane
* GrayMind nods.
<omega> what man?
<Shane> I am beginning to understand how to fight them
<GrayMind> How do you do that Shane?
<omega> thats good then, does it work?
<Shane> no not yet
* GrayMind furrows his brow.
<Shane> If I go what you'd call out of body
<omega> hmmmmmmmmmm
<Shane> I can find them easily
<Shane> yet I still connot look at thier eye's
<omega> can you do that?
<Shane> cannot I mean
<GrayMind> Shane, I had a dream very similar to what you are
  describing.
<Shane> yes easily to get relaxed and leave
<GrayMind> Well, it may not have been a dream.
<GrayMind> Would you like to hear?
<Shane> GreyMind I went to armageddon I know somewhat what's
   going on
<omega> why don't you go to a nice place?
<Shane> yes sure :)
<omega> you always seem to go to bad places
<Shane> can't now
<Shane> I was trying to get back into the crystal city I knew
   it'd be at armageddon also
<GrayMind> In what may/maynot have been a dream - it was early
  morning, I was laying in my bed half awake, when I realized
  that there was someone standing by my bed.
<Shane> can't fight them in this body and that's a fact
<Shane> black robed figure?
<GrayMind> It was a short fellow, with robes on - I remember
  them to be darkish robes, but with colors
<Shane> go on please
<GrayMind> I tried to move, but couldn't
<Shane> yep same thing
<Shane> exactly
<GrayMind> I was ver scared.
<Shane> you can make them leave
<Shane> you can make them leave they are scared of me
<Shane> when you cannot move in such a manner
<Shane> they cannot keep you from leaving your body
<GrayMind> Then, I had a spontaneous out-of-body experience, I
  was still by my bed - but the figure was instantly gone.
<Shane> if you leave your body at such a time
<Shane> yep
<Shane> they are scared of you too
<GrayMind> And I felt instantly at peace.
<Shane> yep
<Shane> don't worry none
<Shane> they fear your higher self
<omega> hmmmmmm i never had a obe
<omega> and you guy's havent met before ;)
<Shane> they try to torment your body
<Shane> but when you leave
<Shane> you are higher than they are
<Shane> and they are scared
<Shane> cause they know
<Shane> I chased one down
<Shane> it portaled out I chased it through time/space
<Shane> cause I was out of body I could do that easily
<Shane> it went to something not nice at all
<Shane> but please remember
<Shane> All of these things
<Shane> aren't cause by God
<Shane> they are caused by a man
<Shane> whom lived a long time ago
<Shane> whom rules other spirits with fear/torment
<Shane> the being is just a man
<Shane> nothing more nor less
<Shane> he made up a lot of things with his mind
<Shane> and with those things
<Shane> other spirits feared his creations
<GrayMind> They were created by man long ago?
<Shane> so they followed for fear
<Shane> okay graymind what you saw in my opinion
<Shane> was a spirit whom this single man controls through fear
<Shane> the man told the spirit to bother you so out of fear of
   pain/hurt it tried to harm you
<Shane> God saw this laughed and gave you some insight
<omega> i dont understand this at all ???
<GrayMind> Hmmm
* GrayMind rubs his chin.
<Shane> you left your body, the spirit "after" you saw you for
   what you really are and feared for it's safety
<Shane> they were told a long time ago
<Shane> never ever to harm the children
<Shane> we are the children
<Shane> and we are from heaven
<Shane> we are from the stars
<Shane> not of this world
<GrayMind> What do you know Shane, of the "man" in charge of
  sending out the "spirits"?
<Shane> Okay
<Shane> he's about 6ft tall
<Shane> black hair
<Shane> black longish beard
<Shane> about 45 yrs old
<Shane> tan skin
<Shane> he says I am lucifer
<Shane> but he's not
<Shane> he's not a dragon at all, just a man
<Shane> he comes from greece
<Shane> it may be whom people called King Minos
<Shane> but I am unsure of the mans "real" name
<GrayMind> Wow - I didn't expect you'd know so much about his
  physical appearance.
<Shane> this man was in heaven
<Shane> when I was made
<Shane> why not?
<Shane> I watched the man crack the air to try to throw me into
   his firey illusions
<GrayMind> It sounds like he is dangerous, even if he is just a
  man.
<Shane> he's not
<Shane> he thinks he is
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<FRED> what kind of religion are you guys
<Shane> fred whatever
<omega> hi fred
<omega> well i am ..... what am I?
<FRED> so
<omega> dont know fred
<Shane> graymind even the angels do not like this man and he is
   but a man
<omega> not really religous but spiritual i guess
<omega> you can be what ever you want ;)
<FRED> so you meditate huh
<Shane> graymind don't worry so much
<Shane> cause we have a secret
<FRED> what is graymind
<Shane> the man makes these things with his mind at age 45
<omega> not realy either but i am going to start doing it again
   ;)
<GrayMind> Fred, I meditate - but I also pray.  I like to know
  about many spiritual paths.
<Shane> I am 27 with a 4 yr old mind
<FRED> who do you pray to
<Shane> so just realize that there are children dealing with
   this man's imagination
<GrayMind> Shane, you're not the first to tell me that I worry
  to much.
<Shane> and giggle children always beat men in this kind of
   battle
<Shane> it's a game graymind
<FRED> 4 year old mind so are you mental or something
<Shane> a childs game/trick
<omega> ;) good one shane
<Shane> I could be mentalfred
<FRED> explain game
<Shane> well it's true omega
<FRED> omega?????????
<GrayMind> Fred, I pray to something "higher" than myself.  I
  don't want to give names to waht is beyond words.
<omega> well fred you want to know alot
<Shane> game where whomever can be whatever, create whatever do
   whatever they want to
<omega> yes fred?
<FRED> im interested
<Shane> and that starts in dreams
<Shane> and ends up in reality
<omega> interested in what?
<GrayMind> Shane, it sounds like a lot of illusions.
<omega> oh don't talk about dreams
<FRED> really in what yall think about things your opinions
<Shane> it is ALL illusionary Graymind
<omega> 2 nights ago i choped someones head off
<omega> and yesterday i had rat's in my dream
<Shane> but Graymind, illusions can hurt you
<GrayMind> If you believe them, right Shane?
<FRED> ok your farout huh
<Shane> no graymind
<Shane> they can hurt you
<FRED> got a ?????
<Shane> say you are standing in fire
<GrayMind> What do you need Fred?
<Shane> yet you have an illusion of water
<FRED> ok wait
<omega> shoot fred
<Shane> you still burn yet not feel the heat
<omega> that's when you have a fever shane
<Shane> same thing as what is happening to me
<Shane> only opposite
<Shane> I am safe
<GrayMind> I see what you mean Shane, but still - if you don't
  fall for the illusion, you'll know to get out of the fire.
<FRED> doesnt your mind dream about whatever your thinking about
   before you go to sleep???
<Shane> yet I have the illusion of being doomed for eternity
<GrayMind> Fred, I think there is more meaning in our dreams.
<Shane> sometimes fred
<Shane> graymind don't worry so much about your dreams
<FRED> so how do these dreams come in your mind
<Shane> cause one thing I learned
<omega> i don't know that fred, sometimes you dream and it
   doesnt make sense at all
<Shane> you don't control them
<Shane> they can hurt you, sometimes
<Shane> and 3 just let them go
<FRED> so what is graymind again???
<omega> chemical reaction maybe
<omega> or subconcious
<Shane> you let them go they cannot hurt you
<omega> or maybe we dream now and dreaming is the real world
<omega> this is maybe a dream
<omega> who knows??
<FRED> i think dreams only come from your subconscious you know
<Shane> we are inside os a picture right now
<GrayMind> Fred, when you say what is graymind, are you asking
  for a religious title?
<Shane> of I mean
<FRED> have you seen Flatliners?????
<Shane> the picture is on many walls inside of heaven
<omega> yes
<GrayMind> Fred, or the resaon behind the symbolism of the name,
<Shane> but a picture none-the-less
<FRED> think its possible
<omega> with julia roberts she was still young then and kifer
   southerland
<omega> dont know i dont have any medical back ground to know
   that??
<GrayMind> Shane, I wonder if we could repaint the picture.
<Shane> we jumped into the picture to make it better
<FRED> yep thats it
<Shane> Graymind we cannot repaint
<Shane> but we can paint over
<FRED> what picture?????????
<GrayMind> I've seen Flatliners - I remember liking it.
<Shane> the picture of the earth
<FRED> say what
<Shane> just as there are pools of stars in heaven
<Shane> and we also swam in the pools before we were born
<FRED> what kind of dust are yall on????????
<Shane> stardust
<GrayMind> Water is very symbolic of creation, nurture.
<omega> dust?
<Shane> giggles
<omega> oh dust
<GrayMind> heh
<omega> ehhehehhehehe
<FRED> angel dust probaly
<omega> i am a bit slow actually
<GrayMind> Fred, different points of view that's all.
<Shane> the water of life, the stream of many lights is a good
   stream
<omega> domestic dust here
<FRED> yall smoke weed???????
<omega> makes me high
<omega> when i dust my place
<GrayMind> Fred, tell us what spiritual path do you follow?
<omega> of course dandelion
<omega> it's really strong
<FRED> i follow JD
<Shane> oh please don't talk about flowers
<Shane> what's JD?
<GrayMind> heh, ragweed is high in Austin - I'm allergic to it.
<GrayMind> What is JD?
<FRED> Jack Daniels man!!!!!!!!!!!!
<Shane> stupid mean man, the one I was talking about tried to
   turn me into a sunflower yuk
<omega> what is jd
<omega> oh
<GrayMind> That is another type of spirit
<GrayMind> hehe
<omega> see i am slow
<FRED> yall sound like hippies
<Shane> came into my dream said welp time to go to burn in my pot
<Shane> and I said I am a human
<FRED> on weed
<Shane> he said you're a sunflower for my pot
<omega> how old are you fred
<FRED> 21
<Shane> so I said God please help me
<GrayMind> hippies on weed?
<omega> i am actully to young to be a original hippy ;(
<omega> 38 here
<Shane> and then the man laughed and said well where we are at
   God cannot hear you
<Shane> and then there was a voice behind me
<Shane> that said Nope you're wrong
<GrayMind> Shane, I bet you were glad to here that.
<Shane> and then I heard white cloud go take his place
<FRED> i think omega an Shane are on drugs
<Shane> and a white cloud got right in front of that man
<omega> ehhehehehahhahahhahah
<omega> yes the drug of live
<Shane> Yes I was very happy to hear that Graymind
<omega> you should try it
<FRED> you got to be to make up this stuff
<Shane> I did not make this stuff up
<omega> what stuff are you talking aboaut?
<Shane> I saw it in between awake and asleep
<Shane> beside's I have a promise
<FRED> everything your saying man
<Shane> that I will never forget
<Shane> that is we children can go home to heaven whenever we
   want
<Shane> and nothing we do on this world will change that
<FRED> im outta here  you 2 are too much
<Shane> but just try to be nice, cause most people don't
   remember the goodness and hugs and love they once knew
<omega> wo..man please ;)
<omega> poor fred
<GrayMind> That place between sleeping & awake - - there is much
  we could learn there.
<omega> can't handle us
<omega> take care
<Shane> no graymind
<Shane> there are others learning
<Shane> when we are in between awake and asleep
<Shane> they are the one's learning
<FRED> i can handle anything but what you are saying doesnt have
   any effect on reality its all just in your head
<Shane> we are the one's doing
<GrayMind> It seems as the body/ego is still asleep we can
  listen to our unconscious.
<omega> what did i say?
<omega> scroll back
<Shane> said you were 38
<omega> and that is true
<Shane> talking about age and such things
<omega> it's reality
<Shane> omega don't worry okay?
<omega> well 25 would be nice
<FRED> yea right
<GrayMind> Well, what truth is there in numbers anyways.
<omega> but i am glad I am not 25 anymore
<omega> i had to go trugh all this then again
<Shane> I already found God and told God and Jesus already knew
<Shane> 25?
<GrayMind> I suppose I am the youngest, by years in this
  lifetime, at 20.
<Shane> There's only one tiny thing that scares me on this world
   now
<FRED> seems like  omega is in to false spirits
<Shane> whatever Fred
<omega> what do you mean fred explain?
<GrayMind> Shane what is that that scares you?
<FRED> where yall from
<Shane> Fred you are judging people please do not do that
<omega> it's ok shane let him judge, everything you do or say
   will come back to you anyway ;)
<Shane> GrayMind something humans call the Tabernacle of God, a
   box, also known as Pandora's Box
<omega> tasmania australia
<omega> believe it or not ;)
<Shane> some call it the bottomless pit
<Shane> that is the only thing I fear
<Shane> hugs omega
<FRED> omega are you female
<GrayMind> FRED, what do you fear?
<Shane> I am gonna go now
<Shane> hugs everyone
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-> *Shane* Thank you
<FRED> ????????
*Shane* do you know what's going on now?
<FRED> graymind
-> *Shane* You explained a lot.  I'd like to know more about
   this tabernacle of god, or the bottomless pit.
*Shane* they cannot kill you okay?
-> *Shane* What is it capable of doing?
<FRED> im not saying any crap so i guess theres no
   conversation!!!!!!!!!!
<GrayMind> Oh?
*Shane* well capable of destroying the known universe
-> *Shane* Woah
<FRED> well
<GrayMind> Well, you can share something other than crap.
*Shane* don't worry
*Shane* God knows all about it
<FRED> are you female]
*Shane* and God is everywhere and holds the keys to the seals on
  that box
-> *Shane* If it destroys the universe, will we still live?  It
   seems to me that we would.
<FRED> ????????/
<omega> black hole shane
<omega> same thing
<omega> yes i am
<omega> i told you earlier
<omega> oops that was fast
<omega> think watcher
<Watcher> Human order is made of rules. The wizard's order has
   no rules--it flows with the nature of life.
*Shane* don't worry none, Heaven will land on earth then
<omega> well i dont think i talk crap either
<omega> i will say it now the third time YES
<omega> but it shouldent be important what you are
<FRED> oh  ok
<FRED> how old are yall
<GrayMind> Wow, it seems there was a lag there.
*Shane* don't worry none, Heaven will land on earth then
<GrayMind> Why?
<FRED> all this  is very foreign
<GrayMind> Fred, do you think that the universe is, as
  scientists say, stretching to infinity in all directions?
<FRED> nope
<GrayMind> What do you think?
<FRED> i think this is a bunch of BS
<omega> ;)
<omega> i told you before as well
<omega> bs?
<omega> sometimes i need translations ;)
<FRED> i think scientists dont no half as much as they think
<omega> what is? foreign
<FRED> farout
<GrayMind> True, I think scientists can't get the whole picture.
<omega> i told you before as well
   bs
<GrayMind> Oh?
<GrayMind> Do you think we were created as wer are from God?
<omega> what is? foreign
<GrayMind> Yeah.
<FRED> no cussing then huh
<GrayMind> I started this channel
<GrayMind> Cuss if you want.
<GrayMind> I'd like to communicate as best we can.
<FRED> well then im gone
<FRED> in a sec
<GrayMind> Yeah.
<omega> i read conversations with god and it was explaind in
   there, cant recall it all, but it made sense
<omega> what is it that you want fred??
<omega> you dont make sense to me
<GrayMind> Conversations with God, Michael was on here earlier
  and reccomended that I read it.
<omega> now i found it in our bookshops too
<FRED> i believe in Jehovah God i dont believe in having charge
   of your fate like you guys say see i believe in this old
   system will come to a end and there willbe paradise you see
<omega> dont the jehovah say paradise just for 140 000 ppl or
   so??
<omega> someone send it to me from the states ;)
<omega> hmm some jehova witness told me once
<GrayMind> Well
<omega> witnesses i mean
<omega> where do they go???
* Watcher shrugs. I don't know where they go.
<omega> hmm some jehova witness told me once
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