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Session Start: Mon Oct 20 22:40:06 1997
*** Now talking in #TheWizardsWay

<CNH> getting color coded?
* DarkGray chuckles
<DarkGray> Reflecting my moods
<DarkGray> I may remain more 'dark' until the new moon
<Legend> hello DarkGray
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<DarkGray> I have, however - noted an interesting relation 
  between my moods & the moon
<DarkGray> I had been growing extatic & joyfully enchanted with 
  the rise of the moon
<Legend> hehehe
<DarkGray> After the passing of the full, I my moods have 
  'darkened' with the moon
<DarkGray> With a current desire to understand what evil is
<Legend> cant see the moon
<DarkGray> It's still a bit over half
<DarkGray> What do you think evil is Legend?
<Legend> darkness
<DarkGray> darkness
* DarkGray shivers
* DarkGray goes to switch off the lights in his room
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-> *Ageya* Good eve, thank you for your kind email
<Legend> haha very funny
*Ageya* you are welcome. good evening to you, dear one. why the 
  change in nick?
* DarkGray Ageya A reflection of current moods - influenced I 
  think by the wane of the moon.
<DarkGray> I actually did
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* DarkGray chuckles
<Legend> cute
<Ageya> hi, brothers and sisters.
<Ageya> :)
<Legend> u have esp?
<Legend> hi
<DarkGray> At the moment I feel a noted pull to encompass my 
  darker self
<Ageya> :)
<Ageya> oh, well, that is cool, Chad. we all have to do that, in 
   order to get proper balance.
<DarkGray> True
*** Legend is now known as MoonBow
<CNH> right, all is good
<Ageya> i can feel the diff in energy, too, chad.
<Ageya> hi, cnh.
<Ageya> :)
<CNH> hello, ageya
<DarkGray> To explore this side, I've an evil character in a MUD 
  game
<Ageya> what a great way to do it!
<DarkGray> It fightens me at times
<Ageya> yes, mine frightens me too.
<Ageya> is very powerful, too.  i should do that in a MUD game, 
   great way for outlet.
<CNH> not logical if its all part of balance
<DarkGray> The evil characters on the mud almost worship this 
  character for it's ability to bring out the darkness in others
<DarkGray> CNH - logic makes it clear that I should not fear 
  this dark side
<DarkGray> Yet, I do not want to cause suffering in others
<CNH> yet it frightens you
* DarkGray nods
<CNH> so who is right, emotions or logic?
<DarkGray> Neither
<CNH> go on
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<Ageya> hi, digitalis.
<CNH> hi, digi
<MoonBow> welcome
<DarkGray> logic we can begin to comprehend with - but only 
  partially
<Digitalis> hi everyone. 
<Digitalis> hi Ageya
<DarkGray> emotion is the fuller perception, yet an unknowning 
  perception
<Ageya> cnh, you don't think the best way to explore our dark 
   side is thru MUD games?
<DarkGray> "Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end." Spock
<Ageya> :)
<Ageya> i like that.
<Digitalis> It is a logical answer. 
<Ageya> where is Watcher?
<Digitalis> :)
* DarkGray shrugs
<Ageya> hmmmmmm.
<DarkGray> Where is Watcher?
<DarkGray> What do you think watcher?
* DarkGray sighs
<CNH> Server has been down this eveing
<Ageya> oh, ok.
<Ageya> CNH,u don't think that exploring our darksides thru MUD 
   is the solution?
<CNH> well, i don't buy into the theology of darkness that so 
   many accept, so, whether one explores it or not, and how, 
   really doesn't matter much to me, I just don't accept the 
   premises that surround the philosophy.
<Ageya> hmmmmmm.
<Ageya> if we don't have darksides and lightsides, how do we 
   reach balance?
<DarkGray> CNH - could you compare it to exploring your 
  unconscious
<Digitalis> I feel that we reach balance through oneness, with 
   our higherself. 
<Ageya> how do you do that, digi?
<Ageya> brb.
<Digitalis> k 
<CNH> Why is balance between light and dark so important?
<Digitalis> I spend some quiet time in meditation, and use a 
   couple of differnt methods of gaining a closeness with my 
   higherself. 
<Digitalis> In a way I agree CNH, as I don't see the need for 
   the balance between the two.  I for one favour light over 
   darkness... 
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<CNH> I agree with you Digi
<DarkGray> What is the difference between light & darkness
<Digitalis> To me there is as much differnce between light and 
   dark, as between night and day.  
<Ageya> good questions, chad.
<CNH> yep
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<Digitalis> Light is unconditional love. 
<CNH> yes, again, digi
<whytlyon> hi larry, gray, digitalis
<Digitalis> darkness holds fear of love, and also much hate.
<Digitalis> hi Whytlyon
<MoonBow> what about me???
<MoonBow> hi
<whytlyon> sorry, hi moonbow
<Ageya> so, then since there is darkness, don't you think we 
   should get to know it?
<Ageya> hi, whytlyon.
<MoonBow> it is me legend
<MoonBow> hehehehe
<whytlyon> hehe
<whytlyon> get to know the darkness
<whytlyon> sure, why not
<whytlyon> the void defines the rest
<MoonBow> my nick from when i changed it...but then went back to 
   legend
<whytlyon> seen a moonbow before?
<Digitalis> Ageya yes, it is good to know the darkness, but that 
   doesn't mean that it should be embraced, in the same manor as 
   light. 
<Ageya> why not?
<Ageya> digi?
<CNH> lyon, you statement about the void intrigues me....would 
   you care to elaborate?
<Digitalis> To embrace darkness, is to embrace, and also become 
   part of if not all of what it symbalizes. 
<whytlyon> in "Conversations with God" he holds that contention
<Ageya> i LOVE that book, lyon.
<CNH> what does it mean?
<whytlyon> that there is All, and void too
<whytlyon> i think he was saying both were necessary
<whytlyon> that one could not exist without the other
<CNH> The void is the place from whence the singularity came, it 
   has nothing to do with "darkness"
<Ageya> agreeed, whytlyon.
<whytlyon> i believe "darkness" is a judgement, a way of playing 
   the game, or looking at thigns
<whytlyon> things
<whytlyon> it all resolves back to the One anyway
<whytlyon> it's more PC to go for the light
<Ageya> hehhee, sure is.
<Ageya> :)
<whytlyon> and most have chosen that path
<Digitalis> While all of creation is part of God, including that 
   which is in darkness, we should not strive to strengthin our 
   darkness... I see Ascension like a forge in which the 
   impurities are removed. 
<Ageya> i agree, digi, i just would like to reach a balance.
<Ageya> and i feel that the MUD games are a good way to do that 
   with my dark side.
<whytlyon> sure, have fun
<Ageya> i don't think we can stifle our dark sides.
<DarkGray> Perhaps if we come to know darkness, we will see that 
  it is not dark at all
<Ageya> interesting theory, chad.
<Ageya> howso?
<DarkGray> light, dark: different sides, same coin
<Digitalis> it is a good way to explore the darkside, with out 
   having to become dark. 
<CNH> wishful thinking, perhaps?
<DarkGray> Wrong Digitalis!
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<DarkGray> Oh, some part of me becomes very 'dark' indeed 
  through the process
<Digitalis> how so Dark?
<MoonScape> Aview or picture of the moon's surface, A desolate 
   landscape
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<Digitalis> Is not MUG games only a series of games, to study 
   the mind.
<Ageya> gotta run to a meeting. love you all.
<Ageya> Fate Guard You, With Love.
<Digitalis> bye Ageya
<DarkGray> Well - it may be just a game, it may just be role - 
  playing
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<DarkGray> But - in exploring your 'dark' side - in personifying 
  that character
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<Digitalis> wb Ageya 
<Ageya> meeting hasn't started yet. left too soon.
<Ageya> thanks.
<DarkGray> Some part of you must become that character you create
<DarkGray> It is you, you are it
<Digitalis> Dark, you mean Role -playing as in games such as 
   Dungeons & Dragons? 
<DarkGray> Well, I've never played such - but I am playing a 
  similar game on the internet - I play Kutulu on the MUD The 
  Lost Unicorn
<DarkGray> To the many people who play this game, Kutulu is 
  almost a real being
<DarkGray> People really HATE this character .. and fear it
<Ageya> gotta run, love you all.
<DarkGray> I have been a bit disturbed by the emotions I've 
  insighted in others
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<Digitalis> bye Ageya, Light and Love.
<DarkGray> Fake game, real emotion..
<Digitalis> I also play and create such games, 
<Digitalis> Is it not like writting a novel, or taking part in a 
   play. 
<Digitalis> yes, it is only make believe... 
<DarkGray> Very much like writing a novel & taking part in a play
<Digitalis> and the emotions, are some what real  but that is 
   where mastery of the emotions is needed.
* DarkGray chuckles
<DarkGray> Thought over feelings
<DarkGray> A very male concept that is encouraged in this society
<DarkGray> On the flip side, emotions are given precedent
<DarkGray> Who is right?
<Digitalis> That is what true balance has to come into play, the 
   balance of thought, and also feelings... 
* DarkGray nods
<Digitalis> to release an emotion, with a evil thought, when one 
   is awakened can be very dangerious.
<DarkGray> The I have endangered myself many times
<DarkGray> In this exploration of evil & creation of character
<CNH> that would depend on your true state of "awakeness" it 
   would seem
<DarkGray> I become what I create - in order that the created 
  may seem more 'real'
<DarkGray> Are not the best actors those than can 'put 
  themselves in the role'?
<Digitalis> Is not the created and the creator one.  but when 
   one has control over there thoughts, and emotions, one can 
   play a convincing role, and still not endanger themselves to 
   much. 
<Digitalis> that is where the light comes into play.
<MoonScape> brb
<DarkGray> What scares you?
<Digitalis> Hmmmm... that is something that I really have to 
   think about, 
<Digitalis> for I can't say that death scares me, for I know 
   that it is only the shedding of a coat. 
* DarkGray nods.
<Digitalis> though I do admit that the thought of spending years 
   alone, does scare me. 
<Digitalis> even when I know that I am not really alone, 
<MoonScape> back
<Digitalis> wb
<DarkGray> Are you ever afraid that you may really be alone?  
  That you are mistaken?
<MoonScape> just got more money
<DarkGray> Erin, what scares you?
<MoonScape> didnt we already discuss this?
<MoonScape> darkness
<MoonScape> dark people
<MoonScape> is what i mean
<MoonScape> not when the lights go out
<MoonScape> hehehe
<Digitalis> Sometimes, in my weaker moments I fear things like 
   that, be everytime, my faith is re-confirmed. 
<DarkGray> Dark people... hmmm
<MoonScape> wicca
<MoonScape> people that use their abilities for the worst
<DarkGray> People who practice wicca, do not necessarily use 
  their ability for the worst
<DarkGray> Quite the contrary on majority
<MoonScape> no but the ones that do scare me
<DarkGray> Why?
<DarkGray> What is it that they could do?
<MoonScape> they use it for the wrong reasons...not for its 
   actual purpose
<DarkGray> It is the reasons, not the actions that scare you?
<MoonScape> yes
<DarkGray> What reasons are those?
<MoonScape> hmmm
<MoonScape> dont know how to explain it
* DarkGray raises an eyebrow
<MoonScape> dont know the reasons cause im not into that...but i 
   dont feel thatits right
<MoonScape> when they
<MoonScape> do it for the wrong reasons
<MoonScape> use it against others
<DarkGray> Do you think that, perhaps, those who use it against 
  others - do so because they don't truely understand
<MoonScape> yes
<DarkGray> Well, if they don't understand - should we condemn 
  them for their ignorance?
<MoonScape> yes
<DarkGray> Why?
<MoonScape> just kidding
<DarkGray> ;)
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<DarkGray> Many people have feared wolves
<DarkGray> Many people still do
<MoonScape> u read my mind....was going to ask for the wolf and 
   the moon
<MoonScape> not me
<DarkGray> Many people are afraid of the night
<MoonScape> i love it...hate day time
<DarkGray> hehe - reading minds is a habit of mine.
Session Close: Tue Oct 21 00:05:46 1997
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