Chelsea wrote:
Okay thanks for the information I was not aware. First of all my interest is not in the wiccan gods and goddesses its in the use of the elements I think they should be incoporated into every day life and thats what I am doing. I wear the wiccan pentagram around my neck not the satanic one but the wiccan one star up not upside down it stands for earth wind fire and water and spirit, spirit meaning the human will to live, I like to incorporate the rocks and such into my life because I think that GOD created earth and we should take advantage of the gifts he gave us, nothing about what I believe is satanic trust me if it was id tuck my tail and run, common beliefs are that wiccans sacrifice animals that is not true, just so you know but thats how i say I am Wicca-Christian because I dont follow the belief in the lord and the lady like the wiccans do I believe Jesus is savior and thats the only way to get to heaven and to tell me that I am an antichrist is completely incorrect and uncalled for.What about the story about a priest being possessed?
My friend is a good Christian and he was possessed. Have you ever experienced any demonic activity?
Skeptic Replied:
I find it interesting, after claiming to be a Christian you would believe that a fellow Christian can be possessed.
A person who is possessed has his/her own purpose, own beliefs, morals, and attitudes, mannerisms
A possessed individual is typically characterized by having strange physical ailments or disfigurements; verbal outbursts, mostly obscene or sacrilegious in nature; violent behavior and vulgar behavior; bodily spasms and contortions; ability to speak languages never before studied; self-mutilation; "superhuman" abilities such as psychic abilities, abnormal strength, or an ability to perform behaviors out of the realm of human possibility such as levitation; cessation of normal bodily functions for periods of time, including breathing and heart beat; and a pronounced revulsion to symbols, places, people, objects, and ceremonies having any religious context. Other phenomena associated with the presence of a demon include an acrid stench; marked decrease in the temperature of the room which a possessed individual occupies; writing appearing out of nowhere; sounds and voices arising from nowhere; and objects moving on their own and destruction of objects in the room, without anyone having laid a hand upon them.
Baptism is absolutely not the way to salvation. The only thing you get by being baptized without being saved is wet. You must accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and then get baptized. John 14:6 Jesus said to them, "I am the way, and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
I see nothing in the Articles of Faith for the methodist and Episcopal church's that would indicate that either believe in Ghosts. But they do believe in demons and demonic power. I suggest you have a long sit down talk with your pastor and let him know what you are involved in. I can assure you the pastor will not approve of it.
I am sure that there are people that call themselves Priests that get possessed. Once we are saved our bodies are indwelled with the Holy Spirit. Our body at that point becomes a temple of Christ. Therefore a person that has truly accepted Christ can not and will not become possessed. It is impossible for a demon to dwell in a temple of God.
Demons are fallen angels and the army of Satan. Keep in mind that demons can bother Christians with their activities without possessing them. Here is just one of my encounters with demonic activities:
In 1994, my granddaughter and husband were living in a small rental in Escalon, California. Both are Christians. They complained about strange noises during the night such as dishes rattling in the kitchen and furniture moving. The noises stopped when they got up to investigate. My daughter decided to spend the night and experienced the same things. I suggested they spend the night at my home in Modesto while I stayed the night at their rental. They complained about noises coming from one particular bedroom. I decided to spend the night in that room. Shortly after retiring I heard noises from the closet area. While laying on my stomach I slid my right hand under the pillow. I experienced heat under the pillow that was instantaneous. I immediately removed my hand because the heat was unbearable. I got up and checked the closet area and found nothing. I went back to bed and put my hand back under the pillow and found it to be nice and cool.
We did find out that witchcraft and demonism was practiced by previous tenants.
Do you recall Jim Jones and The peoples Temple where hundreds committed suicide? My wife went to school with a young man that was her next door neighbor. His name was Mike Prokes. Jim Jones and the People's Temple This site will confirm what I am telling you. Sadly to say, he became Jim Jones right hand man and one of the very few to escape the jungle. While being interviewed in a motel room in Modesto, California he went in to the bathroom and blew his brains out. I am sending a separate email about Mike Prokes.
The boys mother reported to the press that she raised he son without any spiritual guidance. She let him make all of his own decisions without any interference what so ever. She admitted that the way he was raised had a lot to do with the path he had chosen and the horrible way he died.
So believe it or not a child needs guidance. God tells us to bring up a child in the way they should go and they will not depart from it.
and own style of speech, including a different voice. Each of these is distinct from those of the individual prior to possession and to an observer, it is clear that a change has occurred in the individual. In addition, an individual who suffers from demonic possession may not be able to recall the periods of time in which the demon manifests itself, resulting in blackouts and time loss.
No doubt, since the following is such a Whopper, Chelsea probably sells Whoppers at Burger King. Like most Spook Hunters she obviously can not grasp the meaning of scripture!!!!! There is no "Book of Revolation" in my bible. I did find the last book in my bible to be "Revelation". "Wonder what this girls been smokin?"
From: Chelsea Marlett
I would reccomend you pick up a book called, "Book of Revolation "John" it speaks of how the LORD used stones and things from the EARTH (aka elements) to heal and give self confidence and such. I found out that it was removed from the bible by monks, so therefore something that wiccans believe is a part of Christianity.
Date: 07/26/04 13:24:17
To: Skeptic
Subject: Re: okay
Chelsea tried to bait me with the following. I neglected to keep her email but here is the jest of it. Good try Chelsea!!!!
Do you color Easter Eggs?
The bible makes very few references to witchcraft being evil.
Not accepting the Wicca Religion does not sound very Christian like.
The following is my answer to Chelsea's comments.
"The bible makes very few references to witchcraft being evil???? You only need one!!!! I am familiar with what the Bible says about witches.
Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Deuteronomy 18:10-11 There shall not be found among you anyone ....that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
Galatians 5:19-21 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
"now that doesn't sound like a very Christian thing to do to me". We are to separate ourselves from evil. God's word says, "what does light have to do with darkness"?
As long as you dabble in darkness you are going to be bothered by demonic influences. I previously explained that Christians can be bothered by demons. I am not judging your friends personal relationship with Jesus Christ. He very well may be a strong Christian... I am not sure if you understand what constitutes being a Christian or non-Christian? Going to church every Sunday does not make you a Christian. Your theory about a Christian being possessed is nonsense. If your friend was possessed, he was not a Christian at the time.
In 1 Corinthians 6:19 it says: Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that your are not your own? Demons can not enter God's temple. They want nothing to do with God. I would really love to know your pastors name and how to get in touch with him.
It is very possible that you found a story about a priest being possessed...That wouldn't surprise me at all. Just because they have a title calling themselves priests does not mean they are saved. You can also find solid documentation about many of the priest being child molesters.
In closing I would like to say that your knowledge is very limited when it comes to God's Word. I would really like to talk directly to your pastor (if you have one) and I would like to talk to your friends pastor. If you both going to a Christian church I am sure that your pastor would be shocked at you lack of knowledge.
Chelsea wrote:
Do you celebrate the pagan holiday Christmas?
Skeptic Answered:
I have heard the old thing about the Christmas tree and Easter eggs many times. We have many, many customs and putting up a Christmas tree just happens to be one of them. You can try to make your point with any one of them. We do not believe in Santa Claus and we do not worship a Christmas tree. We do not color Easter eggs and we certainly don't believe that rabbits lay them. I guess since we are not perfect that makes us plain old human sinners. Saved but sinners. Do you set off fireworks on the Fourth of July? Do you make noise at the stroke of midnight at New Years? Do you blow the candles out on your birthday cake? Do you celebrate Veterans Day?
The following was directed to Skeptic from a Daniel Tavares With out a doubt, it is written by an atheist with the same characteristics and mind set as most Spook Hunters
As a Christian I can understand why Biblical
1 Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the
2 Cor 4:3-4
Ghost, despite the lack of any scientific evidence?
In fact, by comparison, most Biblical accounts
appear to be mere folklore or at best 'eye-witness'
accounts that have yet to be proven.
If I am wrong in my beliefs then I have nothing to
lose when I die. If you
are wrong you have everything to lose.
accounts appear to as mere
folklore to you. God's Word clearly explains why.
things of the Spirit of
God: For they are foolishness unto him; neither can
he know them because
they are Spiritually discerned.(DEAD)
