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08-15-2006, 02:54 PM | #61 (permalink)
Oceanbreeze Take that! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: S. FL Posts: 4,307 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Liebling:-))) wow! Did you know what "IF" is? Please re-read my post carefully before say something wrong. I did said "IF" in my previous post...
Looks to me like you inserted that after you saw that you irked some of us. Anyway, I'd also suggest to you that please consider not posting on a topic unless you really know something about it. Topics such as this doesn't call for mere opinions on what one thinks should be done to help someone. __________________ "Those who go in the deep end of the pool think they can swim, until they realize 'Shit, where are my water wings' "

08-15-2006, 03:20 PM | #62 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Love and Respect Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 11,867 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Oceanbreeze Looks to me like you inserted that after you saw that you irked some of us. Anyway, I'd also suggest to you that please consider not posting on a topic unless you really know something about it. Topics such as this doesn't call for mere opinions on what one thinks should be done to help someone.
I only responsed FelixKat930īs thread because itīs HER who ASK us question and also feedback as well in general way. I canīt see the sense why some of you are being offend because FelixKat930 ask us question or for our feedback in general. *shake my head* I canīt see the sense why anyone feel being annoy by my post thatīs because I made suggestion post in general way. I wasnīt realized that you made a panic over my suggestion. I didnīt take your or otherīs posts as quote to tell you or them what to do but make suggestion in my own post at general way. Quote:
FelixKat930īs post Asexualitiy means.. a person who have no desire for sex and have no sex drive. What you guys think about that?
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Accord Alexīs Forum Rule Even though we support freedom of speech, show some respect, use common sense, and keep an open mind when participating in discussions.
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08-15-2006, 03:29 PM | #63 (permalink)
Oceanbreeze Take that! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: S. FL Posts: 4,307 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Liebling:-))) I only responsed FelixKat930īs thread because itīs HER who ASK us question and also feedback as well in general way. I canīt see the sense why some of you are being offend because FelixKat930 ask us question or for our feedback in general. *shake my head* I canīt see the sense why anyone feel being annoy by my post thatīs because I made suggestion post in general way. I wasnīt realized that you made a panic over my suggestion. I didnīt take your or otherīs posts as quote to tell you or them what to do but make suggestion in my own post at general way.
I guess I have to spell it out for you, then. The reason some of us got annoyed at your statement is because, it's clear you're not an asexual, and frankly, you gave unwanted advice. You came across like you knew something about the topic, when you clearly do not. You gave advice based on your opinion, and not facts. It's clear you've never experienced asexuality, and don't know what goes through the mind of someone who is asexual. I am asexual, and I would never even consider telling someone to get counseling for it, because I know that we don't think there's anything wrong with how we feel. We just aren't interested in sex. Sometimes, the cause doesn't matter. Also, I resent the implication that certain people are uncomfortable with it, and so therefore, we need to be "fixed". Why should we "fix" something, when we don't think it's "broken" to begin with? Just because YOU think it's abnormal doesn't mean it is. __________________ "Those who go in the deep end of the pool think they can swim, until they realize 'Shit, where are my water wings' "

08-15-2006, 03:54 PM | #64 (permalink)
Roadrunner Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,826 | Ok, let's chill out here.... For one thing, I don't see anything about the fact that a member says something 'needs' to be fixed. Only suggesting that if one wants to see what can be done, etc. Even if that member doesn't have the experience of being one, anyone has the given rights to be able to express their own thoughts and opinions upon the topic for which this thread is concerned with. Please bear that in mind. Obviously, there are times when members can take a certain post in a different way than intended and that's what I'm seeing in here. So, please, let's all ease back a little and move forward by agreeing to disagreeing in a respectful manner. I'm very confident that a certain member has no intention of downplaying such ideals for which this thread is about, nor has any intention or desire to act like this is how things ought to be, etc., please...try to see things in a more positive approach rather than thinking it's belittling the ideals and opinons when obviously the member is only trying to be supportive...of course, sometimes the 'wording' of such posts might make it look like its the other way around....so please let's ALL be considerate here and move forward.... Thank you! ~RR __________________

08-15-2006, 05:22 PM | #65 (permalink)
SxyPorkie SxyPorkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 690 | Quote:
Originally Posted by guido Nothing really forces one to become asexual. This is just the way I am. I didn't choose to be this way. Geez.
Dont worry... You dont owe anyone for some explainations... nothing is wrong with you... Just be yourself... SxyPorkie __________________ Life Goes On!!

08-15-2006, 06:01 PM | #66 (permalink)
LuciaDisturbed Professional Slacker Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 2,107 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Liebling:-))) Did I say anything against gay/lesbain/bisexual? Please watch out what you are saying. I only tried to protect the people who suffer asexual from some of posts who label asexual as werid. I explain in my post that I do NOT consider asexual as werid. Got it? I only try to say in general way that if people who feel something wrong then check with doctor to find out. Itīs peopleīs choice if they want to get the help or not. I made my post in general way without judge/point finger anyone here but suggestion. I wasnīt realized that my honest opinion is offend some of you...
I did not say that you said anything against GLBT. I was just saying that what you said about asexuals needing to go to the doc to see what's wrong with them is what a lot of people tell some GLBT people to do too. You just don't get it. __________________ Live Well, Love Passionately! I'm not just crazy, I'm very disturbed... Bubblewrap is awesome! DeviantArt

08-15-2006, 08:21 PM | #67 (permalink)
Oceanbreeze Take that! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: S. FL Posts: 4,307 | Quote:
Originally Posted by SxyPorkie Dont worry... You dont owe anyone for some explainations... nothing is wrong with you... Just be yourself... SxyPorkie
I wish more people felt as you do about this. __________________ "Those who go in the deep end of the pool think they can swim, until they realize 'Shit, where are my water wings' "

08-15-2006, 08:36 PM | #68 (permalink)
Heath Ahhh Autumn more cooler ! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,553 | I know quite a few people who are asexual and they are more focused on life and doing the things they enjoy like a hobby, going out for something to eat, meeting and making new friends. I am not asexual myself in fact, I am very sexual when it comes to women. I am a man and enjoy women. __________________ "Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the rest is in the hands of God." ~ George Washington~

08-16-2006, 02:14 AM | #69 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Love and Respect Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 11,867 | sorry for double post... __________________

08-16-2006, 02:15 AM | #70 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Love and Respect Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 11,867 | wow, thank you Roadrunner for explain what you see my post. Quote:
LuciaDisturbedīs postI did not say that you said anything against GLBT. I was just saying that what you said about asexuals needing to go to the doc to see what's wrong with them is what a lot of people tell some GLBT people to do too. You just don't get it.
No, you still donīt get it. I didnīt tell anyone what to do but suggestion. I suggest that people need to go doctor to find out what wrong with them IF they want to know about themselves which mean is they want to do themselves volunarily without being force from anyone to check with doctor. Itīs peopleīs choice if they want to know about themselves or feel comfortable what they are. What I made my post here is suggestion, not tell them what to do. Oceeanbreeze, I would not post here if I didnīt know anything. __________________

08-16-2006, 02:19 AM | #71 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Love and Respect Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 11,867 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Heath I know quite a few people who are asexual and they are more focused on life and doing the things they enjoy like a hobby, going out for something to eat, meeting and making new friends.
Yes, thatīs right. Itīs mainly important is they are happy what they are... If not, then is different story... Many people suffer asexual and want to know about themselves why they lost their sexual desires because they want to save their marriage or relationships... They goes to doctor for help... Some people not, because they are happy what they are. __________________

08-16-2006, 04:31 PM | #72 (permalink)
Oceanbreeze Take that! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: S. FL Posts: 4,307 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Liebling:-))) Oceeanbreeze, I would not post here if I didnīt know anything.
That's your opinion. __________________ "Those who go in the deep end of the pool think they can swim, until they realize 'Shit, where are my water wings' "

Yesterday, 01:35 AM | #73 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Love and Respect Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 11,867 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Oceanbreeze That's your opinion.
Do you think you know everything?... *shake my head* Remember, each person is different and know different from his/her own experience. I only post because I have been share with otherīs experiences in real life... Please respect and thank you. No, it has nothing do with opinion but fact. Some people, I had share with in my real life - want to get the help because they feel that they need to be fix then go to doctor. The reason, I posted here because I know from them and what they have feeling. I admire them for that because they do anything for their own future. I respect the people who refused to get the help because they are adult and know what they doing. Iīm total speechless that some of you claim that my post annoy/insult you... *sigh* Please use your common sense and accept that each person is different what he/she know different than you. Itīs your choice if you donīt want to see it. __________________

Yesterday, 05:14 AM | #74 (permalink)
CyberRed Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,463 | Hey GLM -- Suppose, if there's a woman who falls in love with you and would love to have a child from you, will you give her a child through sexual intercourse ( makin' love ) ? I am tryin' to understand small things like this, because I know for one that you would date or things like that such as romance - but, what about havin' a family of your own in the near future ? That's somethin' I couldn't understand. :-\ Are you thinkin' of adoptin' one or what ? Since you are livin' on this earth -- may I ask WHO will look after you when you reach the age of 60, 70 or 80 years since you are asexual - no child to be given without sexual intercourse ? I know most of the children ( grown up ) will look after their parents when agin'. It's common nowdays. __________________

Yesterday, 05:58 AM | #75 (permalink)
Your Mom Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 352 | Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberRed Hey GLM -- Suppose, if there's a woman who falls in love with you and would love to have a child from you, will you give her a child through sexual intercourse ( makin' love ) ? I am tryin' to understand small things like this, because I know for one that you would date or things like that such as romance - but, what about havin' a family of your own in the near future ? That's somethin' I couldn't understand. :-\ Are you thinkin' of adoptin' one or what ? Since you are livin' on this earth -- may I ask WHO will look after you when you reach the age of 60, 70 or 80 years since you are asexual - no child to be given without sexual intercourse ? I know most of the children ( grown up ) will look after their parents when agin'. It's common nowdays.
You know plenty of people who have sex decide to never have children, I hope that I wouldnt need someone to look after me at the young age of 60, however if I get to the age where I find my self needing some sort of help, I hope to have a wife, friends, i have a brother, i am sure my brother will have children. Plenty of extended family. Tonnnns of people dont have children, sexual or asexual.

Yesterday, 08:34 AM | #76 (permalink)
Oceanbreeze Take that! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: S. FL Posts: 4,307 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Liebling:-))) Do you think you know everything?... *shake my head* Remember, each person is different and know different from his/her own experience. I only post because I have been share with otherīs experiences in real life... Please respect and thank you. No, it has nothing do with opinion but fact. Some people, I had share with in my real life - want to get the help because they feel that they need to be fix then go to doctor. The reason, I posted here because I know from them and what they have feeling. I admire them for that because they do anything for their own future. I respect the people who refused to get the help because they are adult and know what they doing. Iīm total speechless that some of you claim that my post annoy/insult you... *sigh* Please use your common sense and accept that each person is different what he/she know different than you. Itīs your choice if you donīt want to see it.
Yes, actually. I do know something about this. I've lived my life as an asexual. Therefore, I have first hand knowledge of the thoughts and feelings of someone who's lived with this. What you say holds no weight with me whatsoever, because you stated you've spoken to people who have experienced this. Therefore, you don't know what it's like. You only know what they've told you about it. Be speechless if you like, but you offended many with your statements. Not just me. __________________ "Those who go in the deep end of the pool think they can swim, until they realize 'Shit, where are my water wings' "

Yesterday, 12:54 PM | #77 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Love and Respect Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 11,867 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Oceanbreeze Yes, actually. I do know something about this. I've lived my life as an asexual. Therefore, I have first hand knowledge of the thoughts and feelings of someone who's lived with this. What you say holds no weight with me whatsoever, because you stated you've spoken to people who have experienced this. Therefore, you don't know what it's like. You only know what they've told you about it. Be speechless if you like, but you offended many with your statements. Not just me.
wow, interesting, it come from you... I know Iīm right what I said in my previous post that you still donīt want to see it that people are different than you. Do you want to claim that you know more than my friends who have experience as you? Do you wan to claim that I have no feeling toward/for my friendsīs experience because I donīt have it? Yes, I know some people who are asexual all their life and want to find out why until they found out why... Itīs good because they want the help and accept the fact that itīs something not okay with them. Quote:
Be speechless if you like,
For your information, Iīm speechless BECAUSE the people I shared with in real life, never feeling offend or being insult by me but appreciate very much to get my suggestion, feedback, etc. They like straightforward people who tell them what they think and share their feeling with them directly. They are pretty open mind and accept the fact whatīs wrong with them and want to hear any suggestion, feedback, etc from us which total different from I see this thread here. Quote:
but you offended many with your statements.
many? All what I see is few... Quote:
Not just me
Not just you? ha, itīs just you and your friends in very few threads. Did you know what you did with mannnnyyyy (real many) posts is offend/bash/insult/judge/rude toward members around this forum here? Iīm not like you and canīt see where have I offend/annoy/insult you & your friends, thatīs just because Iīm straightforward person and say directly what I think/suggest etc and also like to have good debate with agree/disagree, not flattery. The people deserve honest from me. I make my post only if the creators ask for feedback, opinion, etc. I know you & I didnīt share our posts in any thread much until this thread here. Iīm sorry if you see different... Itīs me. __________________

Yesterday, 01:41 PM | #78 (permalink)
Oceanbreeze Take that! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: S. FL Posts: 4,307 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Liebling:-))) wow, interesting, it come from you... I know Iīm right what I said in my previous post that you still donīt want to see it that people are different than you. Do you want to claim that you know more than my friends who have experience as you? Do you wan to claim that I have no feeling toward/for my friendsīs experience because I donīt have it? Yes, I know some people who are asexual all their life and want to find out why until they found out why... Itīs good because they want the help and accept the fact that itīs something not okay with them. For your information, Iīm speechless BECAUSE the people I shared with in real life, never feeling offend or being insult by me but appreciate very much to get my suggestion, feedback, etc. They like straightforward people who tell them what they think and share their feeling with them directly. They are pretty open mind and accept the fact whatīs wrong with them and want to hear any suggestion, feedback, etc from us which total different from I see this thread here. many? All what I see is few... Not just you? ha, itīs just you and your friends in very few threads. Did you know what you did with mannnnyyyy (real many) posts is offend/bash/insult/judge/rude toward members around this forum here? Iīm not like you and canīt see where have I offend/annoy/insult you & your friends, thatīs just because Iīm straightforward person and say directly what I think/suggest etc and also like to have good debate with agree/disagree, not flattery. The people deserve honest from me. I make my post only if the creators ask for feedback, opinion, etc. I know you & I didnīt share our posts in any thread much until this thread here. Iīm sorry if you see different... Itīs me.
I'm just stating the facts, and the facts are these. You don't have first hand knowledge of what it's like to be asexual. You can be sympathetic towards somebody who is asexual, but that is NOT the same thing as "being in their shoes". You are NOT in my shoes, or even your friends shoes, so therefore you just don't know what this feels like. I took issue with your statement for this reason. I don't think I'm bashing you for stating how wrong I think you are. I also know that others didn't like your remarks, so I'm not the only one. How many or how few doesn't matter. But, you know what... It doesn't matter to me, whether you understand or not. Therefore, this is my last post to you on this. If you want to continue this, we can go to PM. Otherwise, I'm done. __________________ "Those who go in the deep end of the pool think they can swim, until they realize 'Shit, where are my water wings' "

Yesterday, 02:02 PM | #79 (permalink)
MsGiglz PTL!! He's great.. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: MN Posts: 4,067 | asexual is other "disorder" which i believe so.. just like.. health related... like deaf, blind, handicapped, one testicle, cancer, speaking of breast cancer.. just like having breast cancer.. with one breast.. or having hormones disorder.. some of them are uncurable.. I am trying to making things sense that its not a drug you take, its not an addiction .. "asexual" is one of diease or mental disorder.. some medicines might help but not cure.. but taking medicines will affect the sides like.. moods, grow hair on mostache or side burns or goatee.. now days they have viagra.. but I wouldnt want to take.. it will mess up your body system.. eh.. __________________

Yesterday, 02:37 PM | #80 (permalink)
Oceanbreeze Take that! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: S. FL Posts: 4,307 | Quote:
Originally Posted by MsGiglz asexual is other "disorder" which i believe so.. just like.. health related... like deaf, blind, handicapped, one testicle, cancer, speaking of breast cancer.. just like having breast cancer.. with one breast.. or having hormones disorder.. some of them are uncurable.. I am trying to making things sense that its not a drug you take, its not an addiction .. "asexual" is one of diease or mental disorder.. some medicines might help but not cure.. but taking medicines will affect the sides like.. moods, grow hair on mostache or side burns or goatee.. now days they have viagra.. but I wouldnt want to take.. it will mess up your body system.. eh..
There may be people who disagree with you on this, but for myself, I do not. I would call it a disorder as it relates to me. I avoid sex, because, honestly it makes life easier for me. I have fears that stem from my abuse, that quite frankly, I think come from PTSD. Therefore, in this sense, I'd say it's related to a disorder. Others might think differently, and that's fine. I must also say that I am comfortable with how I am right now, and don't feel I need to change. When the time is right for me, and I decide I want to do something about this, I may. However, right now, I'm happy not caring much about sex. __________________ "Those who go in the deep end of the pool think they can swim, until they realize 'Shit, where are my water wings' "

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