DUTCH AND IRISH
Email: From Dutch
Hi, I’m new on this list so I’m just saying hello.
Email: From Irish
Welcome Dutch.
Hope you enjoy yourself with the Stargazers.
Email: From Pisces
Hey Dutch, great you could join us!
Email: From Hairy Feet
Pull up a chair and get your telescope out.
Email: From Saturn’s Rings
Join
the madhouse and have a good time.
We’re all completely daft on this list and share a starry eyed view of
the world.
Email: From Dutch
Thanks for your warm welcome, most appreciated.
Email: From Irish
Glad
you appreciate our efforts to welcome you. What bit of the sky interests you in
particular?
Email: From Stargazer
You
should be looking in the Orion constellation over the next couple of nights,
there’s gonna be some meteor showers.
Email: From Dutch (Irish)
Not
sure really. I’m new to this kind of
astronomy, via the net I mean. Can you
give me any tips?
Email: From Irish
Have
you visited the Hubble site? There are
some amazing pics to be found.
www.SpaceImages.com
www.astrographics.com
http://oposite.stsci.edu/pubinfo/pict...
http://hubblesite.org/
Email: From Stardust
Hey
Dutch, watch out for Irish, he’s a geek when it comes to stars.
Email: From Irish
Watch it Stardust, I know where you live <beg>
Email: From Dutch (Stargazer)
Thanks
Irish, I’ll take a look. This emailing
is all very well but it’s quite slow, back and forth.
Email: From Irish
Have you got IM?
Email: From Dutch
IM?
Email: From Irish
Instant Messaging.
It means you can talk in real time.
Email: From Dutch
That sounds like a good idea. I’ll try it.
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Irish says: Hi!
You made it!
Dutch says: This
is great and really easy. Just hope I
can type quick enough to keep up with you.
Irish says: Don’t
worry I’m a two-fingered typist so I’m not very fast either.
Dutch says: Where
are you?
Irish says: In my bedroom
Dutch says: No, I
mean where are you in the world?
Irish says: Where are you?
Dutch says: USA
Irish says: Where
in the USA?
Dutch says: West
and you?
Irish says: Can’t
you guess?
Dutch says:
Ireland?
Irish says: Yep,
Dublin
Dutch says: Are
you male or female?
Irish says: Male
Dutch says: Me too
Irish says: Well,
this is cosy!
Dutch says: I’m a
teacher
Irish says:
That’s nice
Dutch says: And
you?
Irish says: I
work with my hands
Dutch says: As
in…?
Irish says: Wood
Dutch says:
Carpenter?
Irish says: Kinda
Dutch says: What
do you make?
Irish says: This
and that
Dutch says: That’s
a bit vague
Irish says:
Vague?
Dutch says: You
didn’t say what you make, with your hands?
Irish says: Stuff
with wood
Dutch says: Of
course, why didn’t I think of that?
Irish says:
So…married?
Irish says: Family?
Irish says: Dog?
Dutch says: None
of the above
Irish says:
Divorced? Mine was very messy.
Dutch says: I was
married, not now
Irish says: Like
I said, divorce is a bitch ain’t it?
Dutch says: She
died
Irish says: Crap,
I’m sorry
Dutch says: So am
I
Irish says: How
long?
Dutch says: We
were together for a while, separated then she died
Irish says:
Sorry, I won’t ask anything else
Dutch says:
Thanks. You divorced then?
Irish says: Yep,
well, that’s life I guess
Dutch says:
Sure…life
Irish says: I
have to go, work beckons. Shift work is
a real pain. Later
Dutch says: Bye
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Irish says: Hi,
how ya doin’?
Dutch says:
Good. You?
Irish says:
Okay. Sorry I haven’t been online for a
few days – work
Dutch says: Me
neither, I’ve been busy too
Irish says: Doing
what?
Dutch says: Study
leave
Irish says: What
are you studying?
Dutch says: History
Irish says: Nice
Dutch says: Made
anything interesting?
Irish says: A
small table, nothing very interesting.
Seeing as its Saturday night where you are why aren’t you out
carousing? Gotta a girl?
Dutch says: Me?
No.
Irish says: How
old are you?
Dutch says: 36
Irish says: Well
you should have a girl. You’re too
young to be at home on a Saturday night!
Dutch says: I’m
not really very interested
Irish says: How
long since your wife?
Dutch says: 2
years
Irish says: Time
to move on?
Dutch says: I’d
like to, no opportunity
Irish says: Huh?
Dutch says: I mean
my job takes a lot of my time
Irish says: Make
more time for a girl
Dutch says: I’m
not interested
Irish says: In
girls?
Dutch says: Need
to go to work now, bye
Irish says: Wait!
You didn’t answer my question
Dutch says: Bye!
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Dutch says: Hi,
it’s me
Irish says: I
noticed
Dutch says: Sorry
I had to dash last time – work
Irish says:
S’okay
Dutch says: You
married?
Irish says: No,
divorced. Remember?
Dutch says: I
thought maybe you’d remarried
Irish says: Me?
Nah
Dutch says: Why
not?
Irish says: My
work takes a lot of my time
Dutch says: So?
Dutch says: You
told me I should make time. What about
you?
Irish says: Yeah,
well, that’s different. I’m a lot older
than you
Dutch says: Not
that much, I bet
Irish says: 10
years
Dutch says: That’s
nothing
Irish says: Got
anybody?
Dutch says: No L
Irish says: Shame
Dutch says: Yeah
Irish says:
Interested in anyone?
Dutch says: Yes
Irish says: And?
Dutch says: What?
Irish says:
You’ve just said you’re interested in someone.
What are you doing about it?
Dutch says:
Nothing
Irish says: Why
not?
Dutch says: No
point
Irish says: Why
not?
Dutch says: Too
complicated
Irish says: She’s
married?
Dutch says: No
Irish says:
Engaged?
Dutch says: No
Irish says: Going
steady?
Dutch says: No
Irish says: What
then?
Dutch says: It’s
complicated
Irish says: Tell
me
Dutch says: It’s
complicated
Irish says: Are
you using cut and paste by any chance?
Dutch says: No but
it’s complicated
Irish says: So
tell me, explain. What’s she like?
Dutch says: Okay,
I need to say this. It’s not a she it’s
a he.
Irish says: Huh?
Dutch says: The
person I’m interested in is *not* a she
Irish says: A
*he* then…
Dutch days: Yep
Irish says: So is
that what makes it complicated? The
fact that you’re gay?
Dutch says: I’m
not gay I’m bi-sexual
Irish says: I
wondered coz you told me you were married
Dutch says: I like
both, either really, except with this person I could easily be exclusively gay
Irish says: Does
he know?
Dutch says: That
I’m bi?
Irish says: That
you’re interested?
Dutch says: No
Irish says: Why
not?
Dutch says: He’s
straight
Irish says: Ah,
problem then?
Dutch says: yes
Irish says: How
do you know he’s straight he could be gay or bi?
Dutch says: I
don’t think so. He was married
Irish says: So
were you
Dutch says: He’s a
senior colleague
Irish says: So?
Dutch says: He’s
older than me
Irish says: So?
Dutch says: He
wouldn’t understand
Irish says: How
do you know?
Dutch says: I just
feel it
Irish says: Do
you trust him?
Dutch says: With
my life
Irish says: So,
talk to him
Dutch says: I
don’t think so
Irish says: Are
you brave or not?
Dutch says: What?
Irish says: Would
you describe yourself as brave?
Dutch says: I
guess so
Irish says: So
use that and talk to him
Dutch says: I
can’t, it’s complicated
Irish says:
Things don’t have to be simple to be solvable.
Even complicated things can be dealt with
Dutch says: I
suppose
Irish says: How
long have you known him
Dutch says: A long
time, quite a few years
Irish says: And
he doesn’t have anyone?
Dutch says: No
Irish says: Any
idea why?
Dutch says: His
marriage went down the pan, he changed jobs and I’m part of his team. We’ve both worked together all of that time.
Irish says: So
surely you must have some common ground, something you could start with. Sounds like neither of you have had a
relationship for a long time.
Dutch says: You’re
right. It has been a long time.
Irish says: Maybe
he’s waiting for you to make the move
Dutch says: I don’t
think so he’s just never ever given me any hints at all. We’re friends, good friends. I would see him as my best friend and I
don’t want to mess that up by saying something inappropriate
Irish says: You
said you trust him with your life, right?
If that’s the case you maybe need to trust him with your love.
Dutch says: Wow,
that’s profound
Irish says: Sorry
I got carried away!
Dutch says: I have
to go now it’s getting late
Irish says: Okay,
but do me a favour? At least *think*
about what I said.
Dutch says: K,
just can’t promise anything
Irish says: Your
choice
Dutch says: Night
Irish says: Later
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Irish says: Hey
Dutch says: Hey
yourself
Irish says:
Missed talking to you for the last couple of days. Study leave again?
Dutch says: Just
out of town for a few days
Irish says:
Anywhere nice?
Dutch says:
Nowhere in particular, just rain, mud and a lot of trees
Irish says: Know
what you mean
Irish says: Get
any further with your man?
Dutch says: He’s
not *my* man and no I haven’t
Irish says:
Bummer
Dutch says: L
Irish says: What
would you say to him if you could?
Dutch says: What?
Irish says: Well,
just imagine I was the guy. What would
you say to me?
Dutch says: Like a
practice run through?
Irish says: Yeah
Dutch says: I
couldn’t, I’d be embarrassed
Irish says: Oh
fer
Irish says: Sorry
I hit the return button when I meant to use the delete key. What I was going to say was, oh free up your
mind and try
Dutch says: You
sure?
Irish says:
Absolutely. It might be good to
practice. It couldn’t hurt
Dutch says: Okay
Irish says:
Imagine you are with him at a bar-b-q or something. What would you say?
Irish says: Oh,
what’s his name?
Dutch says: Steve
Irish says: Okay,
what’s yours?
Dutch says: Mark
Irish says: Okay
Mark I’m Steve, the man you really like and I’m burning sausages on the
barb-e-q
Kevin? Can I talk to you for a moment?
Irish says: Sure
Mark, what is it?
Dutch says: I need
to say something that might shock you?
Irish says: Wanna
a burger?
Dutch says: What?
Irish says:
Steve’s in charge of the sausages right?
Dutch says: This
isn’t helping
Irish says: I’m
trying to make it realistic
Dutch says:
Alright shall I start again?
Irish says: Okay
Kevin? Can I talk to you for a moment?
Irish says: Sure
Mark, what is it?
Dutch says: I need
to say something that might shock you and before you ask I don’t want a burger
Irish says: Shoot
Mark
Dutch says: I’ve
always admired you and I respect you as a friend. Just lately things have changed; my feelings have changed
Irish says: Hell
Mark, you really go in for the drama queen bit don’t you?
Dutch says: Too
much?
Irish says: Just
a bit. If I was really Steve I think
I’d run a mile at a speech like that
Dutch says: Sorry,
I’m not very good at this
Irish says: Never
mind, try again and I’ll try not to put you off!
Dutch says: Okay
but this is the last time
Irish says:
Right, go for it
Dutch says: Steve,
I need to talk to you alone and I need your complete concentration, please.
Irish says: Okay
Mark, I’m listening
Dutch says: I have
very strong feelings for you, more than I should for a friend. I know you may be shocked but I just *have*
to tell you how I feel
Irish says: So
tell me……….
Dutch says: I’ve
known you for a long time Steve and you have been my best friend for many
years. Recently I’ve come to realise
that I want a different kind of relationship with you, a more intimate one
Irish says:
Intimate?
Dutch says: Yes
Irish says: In
what way?
Dutch says: One
that involves being partners, sharing our lives together, being together, just
the two of us
Irish says: Does
this mean having sex?
Dutch says: Yes
Irish says: You
want to…
Dutch says: Make
love to you, yes
Irish says:
That’s what I thought
Dutch says: Have I
said too much? Do you hate me?
Irish says:
No. I’m surprised though. I’ve never been with a man. I wouldn’t know what to do. Anyway, I don’t know whether I’d want to
even.
Dutch says: That’s
okay, I understand. I’m just grateful
that you’ve listened without punching me on the nose
Irish says: Why
would I do that?
Dutch says:
Because I might have offended you
Irish says: I’m
not offended, just surprised
Dutch says: Well,
you’ll have to stay surprised a little longer.
I need to go to bed
Irish says: Oh,
okay. Was just getting into this
Dutch says: We
could carry on talking for a while but I’m going to move the laptop from the
kitchen to my bedroom and I’m going to get ready for bed.
Irish says: K,
I’ll wait
Dutch says: brb
Dutch says: I’m
back
Irish says: Got
your PJs on?
Dutch says: No
Irish says:
You’re a t-shirt and boxers guy?
Dutch says: No
Irish says: None
of the above?
Dutch says: Yeah,
I sleep nude
Irish says:
Really? So do I J
Dutch says: Do you
want to carry on with this role-play?
Irish says:
Sure. Tell me what you’re doing now?
Dutch says: I’m
laying on my front, naked, on the bed and typing this
Irish says: So,
you built?
Dutch says: That’s
very personal
Irish says:
Sorry, just trying to get into character here.
If we’re gonna go through with this role play thing it would help to
have some idea of what you look like
Dutch says: I’m 6’
tall, short brown hair and 44” chest
Irish says: Work
out?
Dutch says: Yes, I
like to try and keep myself fit
Irish says:
That’s what I thought
Dutch says: And
you?
Irish says: Yes I
work out too. I have a physical job for
most of the time, so it helps
Dutch says: Are
you going to tell me what you look like?
Irish says: 6’
2”, 42” chest
Dutch says: Eyes?
Irish says: Yes
Dutch says: You
know what I mean
Irish says:
Brown, you?
Dutch says: Blue
Dutch says: You
sound like Steve
Irish says: What
can I say? J
Dutch says: At
least you’re not as difficult as he is
Irish says: How
is he difficult?
Dutch says: He’s a
very bright man but he spends a lot of his time playing dumb
Irish says: Maybe
he’s shy
Dutch says: In no
way is he shy
Irish says: Well,
maybe he likes to lull people into a false sense of security
Dutch says: Yes,
that’s more likely to be the case!
Irish says: So
what do you want to do about this role-play?
Dutch says: I
don’t know, what would you suggest?
Irish says: Well,
supposing Steve doesn’t punch you on the nose and supposing he asks you what
you want to do about the situation.
What would you say?
Dutch says: I
would smile at him and touch his cheek with my fingertips and wouldn’t take my
eyes off him. I would draw him close to
me and brush my lips against his, gently and slowly
Irish says: Fuck
that sounds good, even I’m thinking this is a good idea
Irish says: Go on
Dutch says: He
would respond, leaning into me and I would kiss him, tentatively, testing his
reaction
Irish says: And?
Dutch says: Then
as I sense him giving me permission, I’d kiss him full on the lips and push my
tongue into his mouth, tasting him
Irish says: Fuck
Dutch says: He
would grab me and hold me tight, putting his arms and charms around me, making
me feel wanted and desired
Dutch says:
Showing me with tender caresses that he wants me as much as I want him
Dutch says:
Touching me, stroking me, squeezing me
Dutch says:
Kissing me
Irish says: Woah!
Stop!
Dutch says: I
would kiss him right back
Irish says: Stop!
Dutch says:
What? Stop what?
Irish says: This
is TMI, way too much
Dutch says: Sorry,
didn’t mean to offend you but you did ask
Irish says: I’m
not offended, just getting a little hot here
Dutch says: Sorry,
I’ll stop
Irish says:
No! Don’t stop, just catching my breath
for a mo
Irish says: Go on
Dutch says: He
unbuttons my shirt and covers my chest with hot wet kisses, suckling my
nipples, pulling and pinching at them
Irish says: And?
Dutch says: He
takes my nipple ring into his mouth and sucks gently
Irish says:
Nipple ring?
Dutch says: Yes,
nipple ring. I wear it at work
sometimes but only when I’m in my office all day, not when I’m out and about on
campus
Irish says: Does
it hurt?
Dutch says: No, it
feels good when it’s being played with
Irish says:
Thought you said you hadn’t been with anyone for a while
Dutch says: I
haven’t but I can play with myself you know
Irish says:
Course you can, just checking
Dutch says: I
would die with embarrassment if Steve ever saw it
Irish says: Why?
Dutch says: Cos I
know he doesn’t think I’m like that
Irish says: Like
what?
Dutch says: Well,
having a part of my body pierced that is only done for one reason
Irish says: Which
is?
Dutch says:
Sensual and sexual pleasure
Irish says: With
a lot of pain getting it done in the first place
Dutch says: The
nipple is anaesthetised first
Irish says: Ouch
Dutch says: It was
a little sore afterwards but the pay off in the long term is really great!
Irish says: I
guess it must be, to go through the pain in the first place
Dutch says: It
doesn’t hurt when it’s first done
Dutch says: Not
very much anyway…..
Irish says: See,
Toldja, knew it must
Dutch says: But
not *that* much
Irish says: Have
you said anything to Steve yet?
Dutch says: No, but
I *have* been thinking about it
Irish says:
That’s something anyway. You haven’t
finished your scenario about what you would do after you told Steve
Dutch says: No I
haven’t
Irish says: Well
go on then
Dutch says: You
really want to read about gay porn?
Irish says: Why
not, I like reading. Got any pictures
in it?
Dutch says: LOL
no, you’ll have to use your imagination
Irish says: I can
do that
Dutch says: Okay,
where shall I start?
Irish says: Where
you left off, talking about sucking your nipple ring
Irish says: Where
are you now?
Dutch says: I’m on
my bed
Irish says:
Nekkid?
Dutch says: Yes
Irish says: Okay,
Steve is sucking your nipple
Dutch says: You
don’t think this is a bit odd do you? I
mean two strangers talking sex to each other and two men at that.
Irish says: We’ve
had this discussion before. Its part of
your role-play right?
Dutch says: Sure,
of course
Irish says: Well
then. Carry on
Dutch says:
Right. Can’t remember where I’d got to
Irish says:
Doesn’t matter just start where you want to
Dutch says: He
leans down to suckle at my nipple ring, flicking his tongue through the ring
and making my nipple hard
Dutch says: I slip
my hands up under his shirt and feel his heated skin. As I stroke his flanks he groans against my chest
Dutch says: I lift
his head up off my nipple and kiss him again, a deep penetrating kiss with our
tongues licking and tasting each other’s mouths
Irish says: Fuck,
go on
Dutch says: After
a while of kissing and caressing we end up in his bed, both naked
Irish says: Jeeze
Dutch says: He is
lying on his back across the bed. He is
naked and glorious, his body is so desirable and he is so suckable, fuckable
and has an ass willing to play
Irish says:
And? And?
Dutch says: I
spread his thighs and kneel between them and stretching my fingers wide I
stroke and caress his abdomen, feeling the hard muscles underneath his
skin. I bend down and kiss his navel
and trail my wet tongue over his flesh
Dutch says: I kiss
him and press my body close to his, touching every possible inch of him
Dutch says: I
start to move against him, rubbing my erection against his. He groans and bites my neck
Irish says: Drool
Dutch says: I stop
rubbing and kiss his body, all over, slowly and carefully mapping every
contour, every aspect of him
Dutch says: I take
his cock in my hand and kiss and suckle his length
Irish says: Groan
Dutch says: I pull
on his foreskin and all but cover his cockhead just leaving the very tip
exposed and swipe my tongue over the little pearl of leaking fluid
Irish says: Fuck,
fuck, fuck
Dutch says: I move
my hand down to grip the root of his cock as I swallow him whole
Dutch says: I slip
my hand under his balls and squeeze and massage them
Irish says: OMG
Dutch says: I
lubricate my fingers and search out his ass, his wonderfully tight pucker and
stretching his buttocks apart I rub against it, letting him know what I want to
do next
Irish says: Which
is?
Dutch says: I push
my finger into his ass, slowly and gently, stretching him
Irish says:
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Dutch says: I
screw my finger into him, working him.
He’s moaning loudly now and begging me to fuck him
Dutch says: I slip
in another finger, stretching him.
While I’m doing this I’m pulling and stroking his cock. Hard
Irish says: I’m
speechless
Dutch says: I
shift him onto his front, pull his hips up and slide a pillow underneath
him. I spread his buttocks wide and
offer my lubed and slick cock to his ass.
I enter him slowly, a little at a time until I fill him
Dutch says: He
arches his back and pushes against me, wanting me to move, to fuck him. I start to move and the sensations I feel
make me want to come. I move faster and
deeper and I hear him yelling at me to fuck him harder
Irish says: Do
it! Fuck him into the mattress, really fill him and fuck him!
Dutch says: He
moves onto his hands and knees and masturbates
Dutch says: I’m
going to come very soon and I warn him as I pound into him
Irish says: Oh
god……………
Dutch says: I come
inside him hard and fast. He comes as
well. We lay together recovering,
touching and kissing gently, loving each other
Dutch says: What
do you think?
Irish says: That
was hot. You sound hot. Fuck, that was good
Dutch says: How
good?
Irish says: You
got my vote.
Dutch says: That’s
good I’m relieved.
Irish says:
Sounds like you both were
Dutch says: LOL
Irish says:
Something funny happened at work today
Dutch says: Go on
Irish says: This
guy that I work with. He was carrying a
load of files, dropped them and managed to gash his shoulder with the sharp
metal corner of a lever arch file
Dutch says: And
that’s funny?
Irish says: No,
of course not (not). He ripped his
shirt and lo and behold he was wearing a nipple ring, like you
.
.
.
.
.
.
Irish says: You
there?
Dutch says: Yeah,
just knocked my book off the computer table
Irish says: I
have a confession to make.
Dutch says: What?
You hate me cos I’m a pervert?
Irish says: No,
not at all, your scenario sounded really good, very powerful. No, I should tell you that I’m *interested*
in someone as well
Dutch says: Yeah?
Irish says: I think
he wants a relationship with me. First
I thought I was too old and too cranky to even consider it but something he
said has persuaded me it’s the right thing to do
Dutch says:
Really? What?
Irish says: He
said he wanted to make love to me, to hold me and kiss me.
Dutch says: Wow,
that’s great
Irish says: Yeah,
all I have to do is tell him
Dutch says: Well
then, do it, tell him
Irish says: Okay
but I have to be sure he’ll be receptive
Dutch says: How
are you going to know that?
Irish says: Can I
run through a scenario with you?
Dutch says: Of
course
Irish says:
Daniel? I want you as much as you want
me
.
.
.
.
.
Irish says: You
still there?
Dutch says: Yes
Irish says: What
do you think?
Dutch says: Am I
talking to whom I think I’m talking?
Irish says: And
who would that be?
Dutch says: Jack?
Irish says:
Daniel?
Dutch says: Jack
O’Neill?
Irish says:
Daniel Jackson?
Dutch says: Do you
realise I was talking about you? Just
then about what I wanted to do?
Irish says: I was
kinda hoping it wasn’t Hammond
Dutch says:
Jaaack!
Irish says: What?
Dutch says: I
don’t know what to say
Irish says:
That’s gotta be a first
Dutch says: Give
me a break Jack this is serious
Irish says: I
know Daniel
Dutch says: What
are we going to do about it?
Irish says: brt
Dutch says: brt?
Irish says: Be
right there
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