It is easy to forget just how much despair there was in the 60's and early 70's. No less a figure than Henry Kissinger thought his mission was to negotiate successful terms of surrender for the West letting us last as long as possible---Jerry Pournelle

We needed to take Roni and family the stuff we brought back from Hershey, so today we went over to go to a pumpkin patch with them. First, though, Rich got to sell some softballs, to a local guy he met out at the field earlier this week.

On the way the Clover billboard was "Clo's Mooseum."

Alex looked at the pumpkins and the animals and posed for pictures and climbed on the haybales and wouldn't go into the cornfield. It was a nice day. (At least till we saw the end of the World Series!)

Bumper sticker: Gray Davis--- if elected he will not serve

ObGoe: (and also ObPagan) Michelle answers Susan Sarandon.

Also, Gun Show Loophole and gun nuts, and ballistic fingerprinting.