Saturday August 15, 1998 Part 3 20 Messages ======================================== Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 16:44:22 -0500 From: Gabriela Mendez Perez Organization: Southwestern Bell Internet Services To: "felvtalk@MailingList.net" Subject: Re: a sad anniversary Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Jim-- I know the feeling, that sadness that can still devastate us when we think of the wonderful friends we've lost to this disease. Wolfie's one year anniversary was on June 15th, and I was surprised to find that I could still be a crying and frustrated wreck one year after losing him. I suppose that it will only get easier over a lot of time because we loved them so deeply. The really awesome thing, as you've said, is that we have learned much in the interim, and that so many people--yourself included--are working so hard to understand the ways in which our animal companions can be helped as they battle this terrible disease and others like it. Were it not for people like you, we'd never know what we do now, and our animal friends would have a much lower quality of life. Many thanks to all of you who are so ready to research and share your findings. Gabby and los gatos fregados ---------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 16:47:15 -0500 From: Gabriela Mendez Perez Organization: Southwestern Bell Internet Services To: "felvtalk@MailingList.net" Subject: Re: Hershey Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Debby-- Many, many hugs and congrats on Hershey's ELISA test results, and many kudos to you for working so hard to keep your baby healthy and happy. What a lucky guy he is, and I hope he continues to get healthier and stronger. Gabby and los gatos fregados ---------------------------------------- From: KMH22@webtv.net (K H) Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 17:48:23 -0400 (EDT) To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Stressful Visits Better Be Worth It Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Linda, Hi it's kelly again. sorry i am asking so many questions, but this is all new to me. Could you please tell me where i can find this "rescue remedy". Clovis freaks out when he sees the carrier, so does my other cat rufus. and it seems like it would be a good thing to give them so they are not so stressed out. Thanks in advance, kelly and clovis ---------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:49:06 +0100 From: "Sonja Lnders" To: Felvtalk Subject: Anniversary Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Oh Jim, I know just how you feel, I've lost some, too! And I think you are doing a great job and Vyvyan is proud of you! Sonja ---------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:22:28 -0400 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net From: three ring circuits Subject: Re: Hershey Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Gabby- Thanks SO much for the congrats on Hershey's test results! I'm just thrilled to death as you can imagine and really feel like I owe it to all of you with your wonderful advice and kitty vibes! :-) Debby, & the HBG (the HairballGang) ---------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:24:22 -0400 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net From: three ring circuits Subject: Re: Hershey's latest FIP ELISA test result :-) Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net thanks Sonja for being so happy for me and Hershey! I've been walking around the house grinning all day which is a welcome relief from banging my head on every wall I find. ;-) > Debby, & the HBG (the HairballGang) ---------------------------------------- From: "Claude Horstmann" To: Subject: Re: A sad Anniversary Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 20:50:17 -0400 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dear Jim, When a person like you chooses to join your personal strengths with others, Oh, how sweet the results can be ! My sadness goes out to you at this painful time, peace & light, ..marilyn... ---------------------------------------- From: "zimmerman" To: "felvtalk" Subject: Re: Anniversary Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:05:32 -0400 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Clap Clap Clap Yes Kathy, altho it's a sad anniversary I think a round of applause is in order. I've found treatments "mentioned" other places, but if it wasn't for the FeLV Project I wouldn't know how to use them. I'm thankful for his research & the times he's helped me make a decision with his "humble opinion". Thanks JGW! Beth ---------------------------------------- From: "Claude Horstmann" To: Subject: Hershey Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:26:06 -0400 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net I'm IN, on the Chocolate Ritual for Hershey's continued success in rolling back those fateful numbers .... Let all good things come to him, ~ ~ ~ there's not a dry *carob* in the house ! You have every right to celebrate ! peace & light, ..marilyn.. ---------------------------------------- From: "George & Nancy" To: "Felv" Subject: hershey Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:42:40 -0400 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Debby, I'm so happy to hear the good news! Good thoughts and prayers are being sent to you! I hope Hershey keeps improving! Nan ---------------------------------------- From: "George & Nancy" To: "Felv" Subject: Sad anniversary Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:21:36 -0400 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Jim, I know what your feeling. I lost my Miranda to felv 3 years ago. And yes, I sometimes cry over her even after all this time. And I still get angry. My heart goes out to you. I know that feeling of a hole in your heart once they're gone. The feeling that part of you has died too. But remember Vyvyan will be in your heart always! Nothing can change that. And she is in a place where she is not suffering anymore. She knew you loved her and she loved you. You have helped so many people and their cats. You have helped to make a difference. Everyone on the list has been so kind and helpful to me. They have really given me support and I need it with the tough decision ahead of me. You are the backbone of this list and without you I would be trying to handle this terrible thing alone. I mourn along with you for Vyvyan,Miranda and all the others out there. But lets also celebrate their lives. The joy they have brought us, the fun and the laughs. They were our best friends. They did not judge or criticize We could tell them all our secrets, hopes, fears and dreams and it would be just between us. So tonight, I celebrate Vyvyan! Her life was too short, but she brought so much joy and happiness to you in that short period of time. I know this doesn't make it any easier. But, I do understand. Nan ---------------------------------------- From: "Claude Horstmann" To: Subject: By George ! Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:26:35 -0400 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Susan, a girl definitely can dream.. ! my thoughts and prayers are with you too... .marilyn. ---------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:37:52 -0700 From: CatWoman To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Frontline Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Linda - this is definitely a good reminder - and one of the reasons it took me so long to use Advantage. With 10 cats, I couldn't afford 10 packs (would have cost me well over $100 per month!). I waited until I had confirmation from not only several cat breeders I correspond with, but also from my vets, that using the Dog sized Advantage was okay. Apparently the only difference in the dosages is just that - size of dosage. The ingredients are the same (I have also read the package - but don't have it with me), proportionally speaking. Diana ---------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:58:05 -0700 From: CatWoman To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Poem for strays Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net > My Zachary was one such as this, with one exception. He decided not to die. Somewhat off topic - and majorly snipped - but this line reminded me of my brother's cat. Hamlet lived to be 16. He started out life with us as a noise in the garbage dumpster near our local grocery store. My brother heard the noise, and brought home a kitten so tiny, he was able to tuck him into the sleeve of his jacket, and only the knitted cuff kept him from falling out. He had been away from mom early, and was so sick that as the vet said, his own internal "flora and fauna" were turning on him. You could feel the fever-heat off him from a foot away. When the final medication - last resort, a pill damn near as big as him, crushed and syringed into him - finally took hold, I was the only one home - with two sick kitties. It was the best sight I've ever seen when the kitten ate some food, stole food from my cat, then demanded more... Back to on topic - this was before anyone had ever heard of FeLV - and it was lumped in with FIA if known at all... Hamlet was exceedingly lucky... Diana ---------------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:10:00 -0600 Subject: RE: Hershey's latest FIP ELISA test result :-) To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net This is wonderful news, Debby! I am so happy for you and Hershey. Susan ---------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 23:21:15 -0400 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net From: three ring circuits Subject: Re: hershey Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net thanks so much Nan! And thanks for the prayers and VIBES being sent for Hershey! Debby, & the HBG (the HairballGang) ---------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 20:23:53 -0700 From: CatWoman To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: A sad anniversary Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net James - I would never presume to say that I know what someone is feeling - but I have an idea. My first "my" cat was euthanized at the age of 4 with "terminal" FUS. Not only do I still miss this cat after almost 30 years, but it tears me apart that I have been able to learn so much since then, and wasn't able to help him, or M&M, who also succumbed to FUS. What I *can* say is that since then I have learned enough that Muffin is 15, and more likely to die from running into a wall when chasing the kittens. This is my legacy from/for/to Chaplin and M&M. May there be a day when cat food manufacturers can add a single ingredient that is as life-saving for FeLV cats as DL-Methionine was for FUS cats. May they learn soon what can help FeLV the way Taurine helped cardiomyopathy. Remember when both of those were considered radical? Maybe some day there will be a prescription food for cats who are stressed - so there won't be cats euthanized for stress. And maybe someday there will be medicines and additives that will keep FeLV cats healthy for a long time. Just having learned that reducing allergens helped keep Ghost and Ishtar alive was a step in the right direction, IMHO. Having learned that - maybe Princess will live as long as they did. Diana ---------------------------------------- From: "Claude Horstmann" To: Subject: Strays Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 23:24:49 -0400 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Me too, a *stray*-ing off the list.. Red tabby.... so tiny.. snowstorm, carried home in a coat pocket.. mewing so often, and so LOUD that we named him *Chairman Mao* (?) This Tabby lived 18 years... and died peacefully in his sleep. We were the exceedingly lucky ones too.... peace & light, ..marilyn.. ---------------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:34:18 -0600 Subject: Re: A sad anniversary To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Hello, Jim, This is a painful time for you, I'm sure. I've lit a candle in Vyvyan's memory and to his spirit. Bless you and him for this wonderful list. You've turned a heartbreaking experience into an incredibly productive project and brought together people from around the world to fight what killed your precious baby (not just the felv but the ignorance and insensitivity). This is a high honor for Vyvyan and you. Susan ---------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 20:48:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Kat To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: A sad anniversary Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dear James, All that has transpired within this last year seems so incredible - the ups and the downs - the successes and the anguish. You are the core, the heart of this list that has helped so many - even if only to know that we are not alone in our love and caring for our kitties. Someone posted the saying "GOD, please let me be the person my cat thinks I am" - You are that person and more - and I think Vyvyan knows this and loves you still too. Thank You for being here for us. Kat (New Jersey) ---------------------------------------- END