Monday June 9, 1998 28 Messages ================================ From: Claude Horstmann [claude@frontiernet.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 11:20 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: lynn Dear Lynn, Thank you for your kind words.... When we turn to each other for help we turn from isolation and loneliness.. and here we are given understanding and relief. Every illness comes with the promise of healing... I trust that you will look after yourself..... please ?                                                         peace & light,                                                         ..marilyn.. -------------------------------- From: ksent@pacbell.net Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 11:05 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Hopelessness Lynn, There's always hope. I channell The Archangel Michael and I would like for you to visit my website. I think it may help you to put things somewhat back in perspective. You'll find it at www.archangelmichael.org. Please feel free to corrospond with us here. Rev. Bonita Kent -------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 11:54 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Susan........Suidal Lynn, You are so right--this group is full of caring people. We all rely on each other when our kitties are suffering and when we ourselves are suffering. Remember that Bill Withers song, "Lean on me"? Well, that's what I've done w/ this group, so I know a little what it means to ease that burden a bit. Susan -------------------------------- From: Lynn or Josiah Stickels [jonny@zapcom.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 10:40 PM To: felvtalk Subject: Claud Horstman I have kept up with all of your letters.  I very much admire you!  Thank you for caring for me.  I love you for that!  Depression goes so deep and I know it will lift because of you all that really care!............Lynn -------------------------------- From: Lynn or Josiah Stickels [jonny@zapcom.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 10:35 PM To: felvtalk Subject: Susan........Suidal Susan, I thank you so much for you concern.  You will never know what it means to me.  I feel so hopeless and helpless and just wanting to end it all.  I hate to see my kitty suffer.  But your kindness has meant so much to me.  I will try and get over this and I will thank you!!! ..............Lynn(Stinker) -------------------------------- From: CatWoman [diana@wetware.com] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 2:56 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: It's just me the suicidal one..... Lynn - I'm too new here to know you, but I hope you keep talking - if not to some of the places suggested, at least keep talking to the list. And my personal prescription is to hug your cat. He loves you. Diana -------------------------------- From: Lynn or Josiah Stickels [jonny@zapcom.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 10:10 PM To: felvtalk Subject: It's just me the suicidal one..... You don't know how much your letters have meant to me.  I thank you so very much for each one.  I can't come to tell you what your care and concern mean to me.  It might have decided my life or death.  Thre depths of depression can come so suddenly and so deep.  I felt that there was no reason to go on and your letters kind of seemed to lift me a bit.  I don't know why I get this way, but when I do, there is no hope.  I do thank you so very much for your care and your love for me, which I really do not deserve.  Depression really hurts deep inside, I cannot explain it.  Your letters of concern helps ease the very deep pain and I do thank you so very, very much!  I love you all!!!...............Lynn(Stinker) -------------------------------- From: Willows [willows@enid.com] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 9:41 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Cc: jonny@zapcom.net Subject: Re: Lynn Lynn, Are you on the Internet? if so why don't you take a few minutes and go to my web-site, and go click on my Angels Link, and also my Fairies Link, i know you'll enjoy it, hey if you go to the bottom of the first first where our names are, and click on our names,you can even meet us :-) then you'll know you're not alone, How old is your son? I have a daughter, you'll see her on my page too. If you are not on the Internet, why not write to me ? and we'll talk. what kind of cats do you like? i'd like to visit with you, so drop me a line. agape, Deborah come visit http://www.invis.com/catteryrow/willow -- "Come Visit http://www.invis.com/catteryrow/willow" -------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 10:34 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Lynn Lynn, You are a very dear person, and we care about you so much. You are not pathetic, only human....do not beat up on yourself and please keep reaching out. Love, Susan -------------------------------- From: GinaTex@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 9:27 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Suicidal...... Lynn Talking from expeirence they will not lock you up and throw away the key. It does not work like that. seek advice and counsel from a therapist, call the suidcide hotline, what ever you do do something doing it alone will not help or solve your problem. Trust me you can overcome this but seek help, get on some antidepresants. Let someone in to help you okay Gina -------------------------------- From: Melanie Moore [msmoore@slacker.azalea.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 9:20 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Suicidal??? Lynn, Barb is right. Please call your doctor or go to the hospital ER NOW. They'll have someone there who can help you. Melanie -------------------------------- From: Lynn or Josiah Stickels [jonny@zapcom.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 9:13 PM To: felvtalk Subject: Suicidal...... I don't know what came over me.  I just felt no reason to go on any more.  I can't go to the doctor as they will just lock me up so I will just handle this by myself.  I feel as thought I cannot go on and I just want to be alone. My son, Josiah is here, and I wish he wasn't cause I don't want anyone to see me like thisl  I want to destroy everything and I am just kind of loosing it.  So, there is my pathetic story.................Lynn(Stinker) -------------------------------- From: Claude Horstmann [claude@frontiernet.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 8:39 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: suicidal Lynn,   You are not alone ! We are all holding you in our loving hearts ! Please, call for help.... your son                                     your doctor                                     a neighbor                                     a friend   All our prayers are with YOU.. We are all here, lighting candles for your safety..                                call out for medical attention,                          NOW !          .m. -------------------------------- From: GinaTex@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 9:11 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Suicidal??? Hi Lynn First thing you need to do is get help immediatly. I have been there, I can relate to what you are feeling right now. If you want to talk in private email let me know Ok. Please get some help. Gina -------------------------------- From: Angela Holderby [akgraphics@unforgettable.com] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 8:54 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Lynn I am really far behind in all my mail because of other things, but Lynn, if you're reading this, please get someone to help you. There are hotlines and emergency rooms and US! Tell us what is going on and we can find help for you. Please tell someone what the problem is.....we love you so hang in there...... Angela -------------------------------- From: Robert Frank [robfrank@icx.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 11:29 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Suicidal??? Dear Lynn: I don't know what is wrong or how to begin to tell you how to work through it or fix it. I wouldn't condesend to tell you that I know how you feel. One thing I can say to you. From all our correspondences on this list let me say this that I've come to realize about you. YOU are one valuable and loving human being and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get help. Talk to us if we can help but above all, see your doctor. Please know that we need you here and all the furbabies do too. My heartfelt best wishes and luck to you!! Arlene and Howling Kitty -------------------------------- From: RobertCWhite [robertcwhite@ij.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 8:24 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: re: Lynn Has anyone heard from Lynn? What's wrong!? I am very concerned for my fellow cat person!--Kathleen at robertcwhite@ij.net -------------------------------- From: Kelly [jade1@intergate.bc.ca] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Suicidal??? Lynn whats the problem? let us know. -------------------------------- From: Newtanator@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 8:12 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Suicidal??? Lynn, First, take a deep breath and pick up the phone and call your doctor. RIGHT NOW. If for some reason, he is unavailable, have your son or a neighbor drive you to the hospital ER and tell them you need help. DO IT NOW. barb -------------------------------- From: LawBet [army@geneseo.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 2:55 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Suicidal??? Lynn, Let's talk about it. How can we help? The Lurker -------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 8:52 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Suicidal??? What's wrong Lynn?? How can I help you? Hold on. Susan -------------------------------- From: Lynn or Josiah Stickels [jonny@zapcom.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 7:48 PM To: felvtalk Subject: Suicidal??? Help me.  I am very suidial and I don't know what to do.  Please help me..............Lynn)Stinker) -------------------------------- From: Newtanator@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 7:06 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: felv positive kittie Nan, It may be a drive for you, but there is shelter in Moline, Illinois that had a lovely kitten that was FeLV last week. Perhaps my bro who lives in that area could post their www site. At least it's summer and the drive would be nice! The kitten was showing no symptoms, so that's good. I'm in Michigan also, where abouts are you? I'm down near Todedo. barb -------------------------------- From: Newtanator@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 6:51 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Can anyone help, please? Sonja, I forwarded your first message to Rena because I'm not sure she is still on the list. she is usually very quiet and only pipes in on something she feels is VERY important. but I know she is a strong believer in Baypamun and has used it on one of her own cats, several years ago. barb -------------------------------- From: Newtanator@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 6:49 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Can anyone help, please Marylin, I would think, that since both of the items you mentioned are really vitamins and not prescription medications, it should be ok to send them. It's the prescription meds are the problem. If they are not approved there, they will not be allowed in the country other than with a person who has a doctors order to take them, such as a visitor or tourist. But surely, vitamins should not be a problem. barb -------------------------------- From: equinox@az.com on behalf of Equinox Corp. [equinox@az.com] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 6:24 PM To: 'felvtalk@MailingList.net' Subject: RE: Can anyone help, please? Dear Sonja, Do you know at what level FELV does you kitty have? And Please EMail Rena @rdc@corax.com. She's in Germany and can tell you how to treat your cat with drugs available in Europe, and please keep us posted. Saliha (A former European) -------------------------------- From: Claude Horstmann [claude@frontiernet.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 6:04 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Can anyone help, please Sonja, barb is right... call the authorities and get back to us. I have an unopened Pet-Tinic ( for tx of anemia) and I received an order of Vit C that I had special ordered.. which arrived the week following Selena's death.. I would be so happy to send these to you, in memory of the little one that I lost. And in the hopes of extending quality time to your baby. Please get the info back to us, so we can help you !      .marilyn. From: Lynn or Josiah Stickels [jonny@zapcom.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 5:35 PM To: felvtalk "Blessed are that mourn, for they shall be comforted". -------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 5:52 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Monday Candle Service 6-8, Part 1 To be performed at 10 pm EST time, if possible. (I've changed times to correspond w/ petloss.com) CANDLE CEREMONY Written by Lisa Singer (lsinger@aol.com) The candles being lit tonight; Cast a soft and welcome flame. And draw our loved ones to the light, As we call to them by name. Imagine spirits taking flight, For a moment our souls entwine. Say not Good Night, but in some Brighter Time Bid them all- Good Morning. WE GATHER TOGETHER TO HONOR AND REMEMBER OUR PETS Tonight, Monday, we join hands, hearts and souls across the land as one large extended family to pray for our sick and dying pets and to pay tribute to our furbabies who have gone ahead to Rainbow Bridge. Someday, we will meet them again, with hugs, tears and kisses, as we walk together, in eternity, to our new home. Until that blessed day, we honor these precious souls and remember them with the warm glow of flickering candles, sending a message of love, light and healing, and the faith to believe in miracles. PRAYER: God, Creator of all living things, we ask that as we light our candles, the healing warmth of love will flow into the brokenhearted who are tending their ailing pets. Give to them Your strength and comfort. We also pray that the soft glow of light will part the clouds of grief and sorrow to surround our furbabies at the Bridge. May excitement REIGN SUPREME as wagging tails and ecstatic purrs feel our gentle touch once again. May they know the gratitude we hold in our hearts for their faithfulness and gift of unconditional love as they are forever remembered. We are temporarily separated for only a short while. The silver cord that connects us through time and space can never be broken. AMEN. CANDLE 1: BRIDGE FUR CHILDREN Read the names of those who have gone on before us as a tribute to them and their loving parents. As we all meet here, our Bridgekids will be meeting all newcomers, easing their way. 6/1/98 Rubin 12 years old (March 1986 - May 25, 1998) Gina & JoAnn Kettainya Kimlin (1993 - May 26, 1998) Kathleen Panther (May 1992 - May 18, 1998) Nancy Schmall Mancha (December 23, 1995 - December 29, 1997) Pamela Lazo Benny (November 1997 to February 7, 1998) Michele R. Brooks Buddy Kennebeck ( December 1987 to March 13, 1998) Liz Kennebeck. 5/25/98 Paige (May 1994 - May 22,1998) Tabby Kelly Donnelly Lucky (November 1, 1996 - May 21,1998) Paula Lazo Zachie (June 1982 - November 1994) Selena Ernie (October 1993 - April 5, 1998) Susan Wylie & Roger Scott Selena (July 1996 - April 1998) Marilyn Ariya Yin (May 1986 - March 1992) Marilyn Chloe (April 1993 - April 6, 1998) Steve Fitzgerald (June 1997 - April 27, 1998) Rachel Macaulay Vyvyan (March 20, 1988 - August 15, 1997) James Wilson Alice (September 11, 1996 - November 28, 1997) Saliha Tessie (February 1996 - April 19, 1998) Saliha Mickey (October 1996 - November 24, 1997) Cheri G. Salomon (1996 (gotcha date) - September 5, 1997) Paula Sherrod Bubbles (1995 - November 4, 1997) Paula Sherrod George (1995 - April 14, 1998) Paula Sherrod Judy Beamish's Bridge Kitties Comet (10/92 - 4/1/98) Lucille (5/91 - 3/15/98) Donna (5/91 - 2/15/98) Cody (12/93 - 12/29/97) Louise's kitten (10/17/97 - 11/29/97) Emma (5/90 - 11/29/97) Chica (9/97 - 11/20/97) Freddy (10/90 - 11/10/97) Robin (10/97 - 11/2/97) Noah Kitten (5/97 - 10/30/97) John (9/90 - 10/20/97) Miss T (12/89 - 6/10/97) Noah (12/89 - 4/24/97) Tiger (1/90 - 4/24/97) Tootie (5/91 - 2/4/97) Fuzzy (9/93 - 12/23/96) Joey (5/91 - 11/23/96) Lucifer (5/91 - 10/1/96) Cindy (10/90 - 9/26/96) Carmel (2/93 - 5/30/96) Rudy (1/91 - 12/11/95) Jill (9/93 - 9/27/95) Jacob (6/92 - 7/29/95) Smokey Sue (2/90 - 2/8/95) Blackie (3/94 - 1/11/95) Abandoned Siamese (10/94 - 10/23/94) Sam (11/93 - 9/16/94) Clover (5/92 - 8/12/94) Fluffy (4/93 - 8/12/94) Chico (7/91 - 7/8/94) Buddy (9/91 - 3/2/94) Mrs (8/93 - 2/22/94) Bright Eyes (2/90 - 1/24/94) Thomas (10/90 - 1/11/94) Frank (6/93 - 12/6/93) Iggy (6/92 - 11/26/93) Stray Litter (5 Kittens) - (9/93 - 10/93) Sweetie Pie (10/90 - 10/21/93) Hayley (10/89 - 6/17/93) Lucas (9/92 - 5/27/93) Harold (6/90 - 5/20/93) Ebony (11/89 - 2/28/93) Campbell (6/92 - 2/21/93) Goofy (9/91 - 12/24/92) Erin (1/92 - 10/30/92) Alfie (6/92 - 8/26/92) 3 Littermates of Alfie (6/92 - 8/92) Sydney (9/91 - 6/29/92) Sojourner Brown (6/90 - 6/26/92) Goldie (10/90 - 6/15/92) Amore (2/92 - 6/1/92) Otis (5/91 - 5/28/92) Prince Charles (9/91 - 5/20/92) Eddie (7/89 - 5/14/92) Holly (6/91 - 3/10/92) Dusty (7/90 - 10/12/91) Angel (4/91 - 6/29/91) Star (3/91 - 5/14/91) Jerry (12/90 - 4/14/91) Ginger (3/82 - 10/2/90) Oscar (5/89 - 5/7/90) Rocky (2/14/89 - 6/20/89) Casey (11/88 - 12/26/88) Ginger Mama (5/87 - 11/26/88) Old Fluffy (6/75 - 8/20/88) Puff (11/83 - 7/24/88) Chester (9/84 - 3/17/88) Daphne (9/84 - 2/12/85) I will not look back for there is sorrow. I will not look for today for there is longing. I will look forward for there is OUR tomorrow. -------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 5:53 PM To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Monday Candle Service 6-8, Part 2 CANDLE 2: SPECIAL NEEDS FUR CHILDREN Read the names of all those who are sick, injured, or have special circumstances. Sophia (for continued good health) Gina & JoAnn Luke four-year-old male (for continued success of treatment for felv and for a good home) Gina & Joann Rissa-Tai Pam & Chuck Howling Kitty four-year-old male with advanced lymphosarcoma & felv Arlene Grey Tabby in Little Rock, Arkansas (felv+, needs home) Cheri G. Misha Chere Together we unite to give thanks for the special pets who have improved in health and strength. We also, being of one heart, pray for the Mommies, Daddies, and little ones who struggle together against serious illness. We remember in quiet reverence the special ones who left us and we pray for the grieving families left behind. And we can never forget all who work to save the homeless and abused animals. Their burden is never light. With one heart, all are remembered and forever cherished by this family of love. CANDLE 3: FOR ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND PEACE In honor of all the homeless, forgotten, abandoned, abused animals. For the nameless little ones who gave their lives for others, for research and as a result of humankind's inhumanity. May the Higher Powers that be forgive the cruelty. We light this candle for them. As our lights shine brightly through the galaxy, may the angels smile upon us, and know that for a brief moment, we have put aside worldly differences to bond as ONE. CLOSING: I have sent you on a journey to a land free from pain, not because I did not love you, but because I loved you too much to force you to stay. MOMENT OF SILENCE. "Blessed are they that mourn, for they will be comforted." Love, light and healing to all. Amen. -------------------------------- END