Monday May 25, 1998 28 Messages ====================================== From: WORKPARK Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 03:11:33 EDT To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Angela..........Stinker Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Linda P and Lynn, What Linda is talking about is called "SoftPaw". I think I did a post on it a long time ago. You may want to try the search engine. Pam -------------------------------------- From: Newtanator Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 08:53:48 EDT To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: [LONG: Taking A Shot With Immunoregulin] Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Jenn, I think you may be confusing interferon and immunoregulin. Interferon can not be given to cats via an injection because it's human interferon. ImmunoRegulin is only given IV or under the skin, (sub Q). As far as I know there is no oral dose of it. Some cats can be a challenge to give meds to that's for sure. Maybe it's time for the folks who had posted some very amusing stories about giving cats pills can repost them, makes you smile all day. barb -------------------------------------- From: Newtanator Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:33:57 EDT To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Poncho and Lefty...... Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Angela, Sometimes I think when we are trying to find just the combination for each cat we're like safe crackers! Or ordering Chinese food, one from column A, one from column B. Sounds like you found the right one for your babies. Good for you! barb -------------------------------------- From: "Lynn or Josiah Stickels" To: "felvtalk" Subject: Soft paws......Stinker Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 07:19:19 -0700 Reply-to: felvtalk@MailingList.net I have heard of these. My vet had ordered some for another person. I wonder if they bother the cat?:) They come in all different colors. I think I may try some. I was happy to read where the elavil is good for chronic pain. I looked it up also. Stinker slept good.:) He isn't feeling too well these past few days. His eyes and mouth seem to be bothering him. He is sleeping alot which is good. Who knows, he may be up and around playing later on today.:) He is just on the Antirobe now as the Baytril wasn't working. I believe that is what brought him down. I am almost sure that the Antirobe will take effect soon...................Lynn(Stinker) -------------------------------------- Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:44:46 -0400 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net From: Angela Holderby Subject: Re: Soft paws......Stinker Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net I am so glad to hear that you all are sleeping better! Still, I'd sleep with my back to him for a few more nights--just in case he reverts to psycho-cat mode. (I say this affectionately--this is the name my hubby has for my cats when they take a momentary lapse from sanity!) We, too are doing very well. I don't know if it is the Interferon, the Immunoregulin (only Lefty is on this) or the Amtrotose and Pet-tinic or a combination of all these things, but Lefty is up to more than 9 pounds now and Poncho still shows no signs of any illness and is completely back to her rotten little self after the spaying surgery. Just wanted to thank all of you for the well-wishes and the good vibes when we were having a rough time. Good luck to stinker that the calmness continues. Angela. (and Poncho & Lefty) -------------------------------------- Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:51:34 +0000 From: LawBet Subject: Re: What's going on? To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Organization: Home for Wayward Felines Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dana, One possible answer is that your server has a limit as to the number of MB that can be stored by them before you download. My server has a 5 MB limit. So it's possible that if you allow it to surpass that limit, the surplus might be deleted from your server. I'll let the experts give you more possible technical reasons. The Lurker -------------------------------------- From: Paula Lazo To: "'Felv Talk List'" Subject: Candle Ceremony Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:11:34 -0400 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dear Susan: As I understood the candle ceremony will be held today at 9 pm, but since I live in a total different country (Chile), I'd like to know if this time corresponds to chilean hour, if it does I will not be able to stay on line since this is my work and I don't have a computer at home. What can I do while I'm home?, how can I follow the ceremony?. Also can you please add Mancha to the next ceremony, she was Lucky's sweet little mommy. She died of PIF and Felv last december, we had to put her to sleep and it was devastating. I think it's so thoughtful of you to do this ceremony, it's a beautiful ceremony (I cried when I read it and I can imagine how I'd feel if I saw it). God bless you, (que Dios te bendiga) dear friend Paula Lazo -------------------------------------- From: AskforArt Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:07:17 EDT To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Candle Ceremony Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Paula--there is a website at that shows the current times in all the world time zones. Linda P -------------------------------------- From: GinaTex Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:29:45 EDT To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Rubin March 1986 - May 25,1998 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Hello All This is the hardest message i have had to post. Sadly, today we had to euthanize Rubin, the last few days he has gone right down hill, he refused to eat anything since Friday and he could hardly walk anymore without falling down, it broke our hearts to see that. He just about got up to drink water and use his litter box. He had lost so much weight he was just nothing but skin and bones. He fought a long hard battle and was just to tired to fight anymore. I have not stopped crying since Friday when we made our decision, even up to it was time I really thought Dr Ader could fix him make him feel better, realistically we knew better. I even asked her if she thought it was time and she said that she knew i was hoping that there was some miracle drug just discovered and that would make things alright. But it was time, we all cryed like babies, the tec, vet, JoAnn, and myself. He was such a good boy, and in his traditon of choosing holidays to get sick on he chose today Memorial Day. We want to Thank everyone for their support in all this it has been a long tough battle with us esp since the last 6 months. Thankyou again Gina and JoAnn -------------------------------------- Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:11:10 +0000 From: LawBet Subject: Re: Rubin March 1986 - May 25,1998 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Organization: Home for Wayward Felines Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Gina, Sleep soft, dear Rubin... The Lurker -------------------------------------- From: "Lynn or Josiah Stickels" To: "felvtalk" Subject: Poncho and Lefty...... Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:16:53 -0700 Reply-to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Angela, That is so good to hear your babies are doing so well. It's probably the combination but I do think the Ambrotose is the special one. Ever since I started giving it to Stinker, he runs and plays and just feels good. I just watch in awe at the change............Lynn(Stinker) -------------------------------------- From: Newtanator Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 17:37:12 EDT To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Rubin March 1986 - May 25,1998 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Gina and family, You have my deepest sympathy for the loss of Rubin. When someone loses the fight we all relive our own loss a little. He was a gallant soldier himself. Know I am thinking of you. barb -------------------------------------- From: Kelly To: "'felvtalk@MailingList.net'" Subject: RE: Paige candle service Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:55:02 -0700 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Hi Susan, just wondering when Paige will be in the list? Thanks. Kelly & Jade. -------------------------------------- From: Paula Lazo To: "'felvtalk@MailingList.net'" Subject: RE: Rubin March 1986 - May 25,1998 Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 17:16:36 -0400 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dear Gina and JoAnn: I'm so sorry Rubin had to be euthanized. That is such a painful decision but it shows generosity and unselfishness when done the way you did it so that Rubin could stop suffering. I know we want to keep them to ourselves but when they get that sick that they can no longer stand on their little paws or feed by themselves they are really suffering, for them losing that is like losing the reason of living and when there's nothing that can be done to make them feel better, putting them to sleep is the right choice. I know right now you just want to cry, please do so, you have the right to mourn his departure. I bet right now he's at the Rainbow Bridge and my sweet little Lucky has come to his encounter together with Panther and Paige who parted not long ago and all the other brave kitties who welcomed them. They are now so happy so pain free, playing and enjoying the beauty and peace of the bridge. I think you were blessed to share 12 years with such a good boy, my thoughts are with you both right now. Rest in peace little Rubin. Love Paula -------------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:22:38 -0600 Subject: Monday Candle Ceremony To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Those who are able please perform the ceremony at 9 pm EST. (Paula, in Santiago, Chile, that will be 10 pm, according to the NY Public Library Desk Reference.) I hope I spelled names correctly and got the right dates. If not, please tell me and I will change it for next week. Thank you everyone for your contributions. Susan CANDLE CEREMONY Written by Lisa Singer (lsinger@aol.com) The candles being lit tonight; Cast a soft and welcome flame. And draw our loved ones to the light, As we call to them by name. Imagine spirits taking flight, For a moment our souls entwine. Say not Good Night, but in some Brighter Time Bid them all- Good Morning. WE GATHER TOGETHER TO HONOR AND REMEMBER OUR PETS Tonight, Monday, we join hands, hearts and souls across the land as one large extended family to pray for our sick and dying pets and to pay tribute to our furbabies who have gone ahead to Rainbow Bridge. Someday, we will meet them again, with hugs, tears and kisses, as we walk together, in eternity, to our new home. Until that blessed day, we honor these precious souls and remember them with the warm glow of flickering candles, sending a message of love, light and healing, and the faith to believe in miracles. PRAYER: God, Creator of all living things, we ask that as we light our candles, the healing warmth of love will flow into the brokenhearted who are tending their ailing pets. Give to them Your strength and comfort. We also pray that the soft glow of light will part the clouds of grief and sorrow to surround our furbabies at the Bridge. May excitement REIGN SUPREME as wagging tails and ecstatic purrs feel our gentle touch once again. May they know the gratitude we hold in our hearts for their faithfulness and gift of unconditional love as they are forever remembered. We are temporarily separated for only a short while. The silver cord that connects us through time and space can never be broken. AMEN. CANDLE 1: BRIDGE FUR CHILDREN Read the names of those who have gone on before us as a tribute to them and their loving parents. As we all meet here, our Bridgekids will be meeting all newcomers, easing their way. 5/25/98 Paige (May 1994 - May 22,1998) Tabby Kelly Donnelly Lucky (November 1, 1996 - May 21,1998) Paula Lazo Mancha (December 1997) Paula Lazo Zachie (June 1982 - November 1994) Selena Ernie (October 1993 - April 5, 1998) Susan Wylie & Roger Scott Selena (July 1996 - April 1998) Marilyn Ariya Yin (May 1986 - March 1992) Marilyn Chloe (April 1993 - April 6, 1998) Steve Fitzgerald (June 1997 - April 27, 1998) Rachel Macaulay Vyvyan (March 20, 1988 - August 15, 1997) James Wilson Alice (September 11, 1996 - November 28, 1998) Saliha Tessie (February 1996 - April 19, 1998) Saliha Mickey (October 1996 - November 1997) Cheri G. Salomon (1996 (gotcha date) - September 5, 1997) Paula Sherrod Bubbles (1995 - November 4, 1997) Paula Sherrod George (1995 - April 14, 1998) Paula Sherrod I will not look back for there is sorrow. I will not look for today for there is longing. I will look forward for there is OUR tomorrow. CANDLE 2: SPECIAL NEEDS FUR CHILDREN Read the names of all those who are sick, injured, or have special circumstances. Rissa-Tai Pam & Chuck Howling Kitty (advanced lymphosarcoma) Arlene Grey Tabby in Little Rock, Arkansas (felv+, needs home) Cheri G. Misha Chere Together we unite to give thanks for the special pets who have improved in health and strength. We also, being of one heart, pray for the Mommies, Daddies, and little ones who struggle together against serious illness. We remember in quiet reverence the special ones who left us and we pray for the grieving families left behind. And we can never forget all who work to save the homeless and abused animals. Their burden is never light. With one heart, all are remembered and forever cherished by this family of love. CANDLE 3: FOR ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND PEACE In honor of all the homeless, forgotten, abandoned, abused animals. For the nameless little ones who gave their lives for others, for research and as a result of humankind's inhumanity. May the Higher Powers that be forgive the cruelty. We light this candle for them. As our lights shine brightly through the galaxy, may the angels smile upon us, and know that for a brief moment, we have put aside worldly differences to bond as ONE. CLOSING: I have sent you on a journey to a land free from pain, not because I did not love you, but because I loved you too much to force you to stay. MOMENT OF SILENCE. "Blessed are they that mourn, for they will be comforted." Love, light and healing to all. Amen. -------------------------------------- From: Paula Lazo To: "'felvtalk@MailingList.net'" Subject: RE: Candle Ceremony Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 17:31:16 -0400 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Thank you dear Susan, I'll be folllowing the ceremony at home thanks for the info on the time. I forgot to include Mancha's birth date, she was born December 23 1995 and died December 29 1997 (due to FIP and Felv). And next to her name please add my sister's name Pamela Lazo (she was Mancha's "human" mommy). Lucky's information is all right. You spelled everything correctly and the dates are right it's only Mancha's information that wasn´t complete. If you cannot add her for this ceremony it's OK to have her for the next one. I again thank you deeply for your concern. I'll be thinking of Ernie and the other kitties as well. Love Paula -------------------------------------- Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 17:36:13 -0400 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net From: Angela Holderby Subject: Re: Rubin March 1986 - May 25,1998 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net I am so very sorry for your loss. I know from your past posts that you worked very hard to give Rubin the best with what time was left. I bet he knows how lucky he was to have you. You are in my thoughts and prayers. Angela. (and Poncho & Lefty) -------------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:37:46 -0600 Subject: Re: Rubin March 1986 - May 25,1998 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Gina & JoAnn, This is such a sad day for you. You fought so hard for Rubin and loved him so deeply. I know he felt that love because I can feel your love for him through your words. You gave him peace. Susan -------------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:47:06 -0600 Subject: Re: Candle Ceremony To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dear Paula, I hope you can go ahead w/ the ceremony at home. I will be reading Lucky's and Mancha's names, and thinking of them. I am very happy to do the ceremony for our group. I'm glad Jim asked me. It is so sad for you that you have now lost two kitties to this horrible disease. I hope we can all find some comfort. Love, Susan -------------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:44:32 -0600 Subject: Re: Candle Ceremony To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Thanks, Linda, This is a nifty site! I've got it bookmarked now. Susan -------------------------------------- From: "RobertCWhite" To: Subject: Kettainya Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:30:21 -0400 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net I just wanted to thank everyone for trying to help me make Kettainya comfortable and find ways to get her leukemia into remission. Sadly, she passed away in her sleep lastnight. I was out of town at the time so she was with my parents (and very pampered). I had a terrible nightmare about a little black cat who was dying & looked a lot like my Kettainya, but cried out & stretched out her paws to me. I truly thhink this was her way of letting me know she was leaving. My Dad told me when I arrived. I was stunned and it didn't sink in until my father's face turned red and his mouth quivered. I have never seen my father like that. She was a very loveable cat. We buried her together and it was hard to come home and see her things. I miss her very much. I am glad that she did not suffer and just went to sleep. I thank for for sparing me that sort of pain. I am sorry for all of you that have lost your kitties. ---Kathleen at robertcwhite@ij.net Please add her name to the Bridge kitties . . . Kettainya Kimlin 1993-May 25, 1998. Eventually I would like to add her photo to a web page but I just have to find someone I know with a scanner. -------------------------------------- Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 22:51:45 +0000 From: LawBet Subject: Re: Kettainya To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Organization: Home for Wayward Felines Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Kathleen, Sleep soft, dear Kettainya... The Lurker -------------------------------------- Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:42:12 -0400 From: Andrew Sherrod To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Monday Candle Ceremony Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Thank you...this is lovely! Paula Sherrod -------------------------------------- Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:43:15 -0400 From: Andrew Sherrod To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Rubin March 1986 - May 25,1998 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net I'm so sorry.... Paula -------------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:06:44 -0600 Subject: Rainbow Bridge Story To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net I thought those who don't have the Rainbow Bridge story might like to read it. It kind of goes w/ the candle ceremony. Rainbow Bridge Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable. All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind. They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster. You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart. Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together.... Author unknown... -------------------------------------- From: "Claude Horstmann" To: Subject: Re: Rubin Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 21:43:29 -0400 Reply-to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dear Gina and JoAnn, Mere words. I know the sadness, so many of us know the sorrow that you are experiencing. It seems that Rubin has led this first Memorial Service, a testimony to his valiant spirit. Peace and Light... .marilyn. -------------------------------------- Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 21:11:20 -0700 From: Robert Frank Organization: A.R.F., Inc. To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Rubin March 1986 - May 25,1998 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dear Gina and JoAnn: I HATE this disease!!!!Perhaps now Rubin has his peace. I'm so sorry for your profound loss. Howling Kitty and I will be thinking of you and sending you good thoughts. Please find comfort in knowing that you were with him to help him to the Bridge. Arlene and Howling Kitty -------------------------------------- From: Kelly To: "'felvtalk@MailingList.net'" Subject: RE: Monday Candle Ceremony Date sent: Mon, 25 May 1998 21:17:33 -0700 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Hi Susan, I checked out the petloss page for Paige's name but couldn't find it. Just wondering what happened. Thanks. Kelly & Jade. -------------------------------------- END