Saturday March 14, 1998 Part 2 13 Messages ====================================== From: "James G. Wilson" To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:56:04 +0000 Subject: cross-posting is definitely a NO-NO Copies to: boonedagel@aol.com (Boonedagel) Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Hello all, In an effort to end this current (and irrelevant) debate over Greg's posting to other lists, I'm stating this again. Please DO NOT cross-post messages meant for this list to other lists. That means- don't put "felvtalk@MailingList.net" in the same "To" header or "Cc" header as you put other addresses. This is extremely rude, and the content on this list is generally irrelevant to other lists. That is why they are separate lists. Some may want to call this censorship on my part, but I call it a sense of order and respect for other folks who don't want to be part of our list- if they did, they'd join our list. These debates do nothing to further our cause and goals, and actually make us look bad and hinder the progress we're making to bridge the gap between people and vets. So, please stop doing this now, and let's get back to the issues at hand- namely, helping each other understand FeLV and supporting those in need. That is what we do best. Take care, and thanks for your cooperation. PS: Whether you agree or disagree with all of this, please don't post your opinions about this to the list- that's what I'm trying to stop. You are, of course, free to post your opinions to me privately- James Wilson: list owner In loving memory of Vyvyan: March 20, 1988 - August 15, 1997 James G. Wilson phaedrus@ctnet.net, phaedrus69@hotmail.com, felv@angelfire.com http://www.angelfire.com/il/felv/ http://www.litchfieldil.com/members/phaedrus/ http://www.fortunecity.com//skyscraper/sterling/20/niu.html -------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:12:50 +0000 From: LawBet Organization: Home for Wayward Felines To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Buddy's gone Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Liz, My family and I also send our sympathies to you. We've had to make the same decision you did and know how hard it is but that it's the right thing to do. We feel for you. Know that Buddy is happy now romping around with my little "nephew" Merlin and all the other little ones that have been lost. Our Tuffy and Magic did not die due to FelV, but they are up there too and will provide some "older" guidance for the little ones' happy transition. Larry (The Lurker) -------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:04:14 -0600 From: Cheryl and Michael To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Buddy's gone Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Helen, I am so sorry about Buddy. You continue to show your courage in caring for others and their little ones as you deal with your grief. Without a doubt Buddy was very lucky to have you by his side. My thoughts are with you, Cheryl -------------------------------------- To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:06:24 -0500 Subject: Hello From: naohalloran@juno.com (Naomi J O'Halloran) Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Hello everyone, I just subscribed to this list a few days ago, and just reading all of your messages to each other and seeing how caring and supportive everyone is has helped me a lot the past few days. I just found out on Tuesday that both of my cats, Moira and Keigan, are felv positive. I work at a vet's office, and brought them in to have their nails trimmed(because Keigan's a feisty little devil), and to have the vet check out Moira's breathing, because it seemed irregular for a few days. I had a funny feeling, and asked him to check her for felv also, because I wasn't sure if she had been tested at the shelter I got her from 2 1/2 years ago. He suggested we take X-rays after hearing her breathing, and found that her lungs were almost completely filled with fluid. I knew then that it was probably leukemia, but ran the test to make sure. But I wasn't prepared to hear him say that she probably only had a few days to live. So then we had to test Keigan, and because he's been sharing food and water bowls with her since I brought him home in May, I knew he didn't have much of a chance of being negative. He and I had just shared a birthday the day before, his 1st and my 20th, and seeing the test that meant he may never get to grow old broke my heart. Yesterday Moira's breathing got much worse, so bad that she couldn't lie down at all, only sit up and look at me helplessly. I couldn't bear to see her not getting any rest and so uncomfortable, so I brought her to the vet and sent her somewhere where she can breathe as freely as she wants and sleep all day if she likes. It was the hardest thing I've ever done. I'm going to miss my little girl so much. So now I'm going to do everything I can to keep Keigan as healthy as he is now. I started him on a vitamin supplement, interferon and a higher quality food yesterday, and my vet is ordering Acemannan to work along with the interferon. I'm determined to keep Keigan the feisty little devil that he is for years. It's just been hard to even look at him or Moira the past few days without losing it, and now I don't know what he and I are going to do without her. Any support or information on what else I can do for Keigan would be wonderful. I'm sorry this is so incredibly long. It just feels good to know that I'm writing to people who know and understand what my kitties and I are going through. Thank you so much. Naomi Goodbye my little love. Keigan and I are praying for you. -------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:23:43 -0600 From: Cheryl and Michael To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Hello Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Naomi, So sorry to read about Moira. That was a difficult, but brave decision you made. As you said, Moira is in a place free of discomfort and is probably playing and lounging in the sunshine with all our little ones. Give Keigan a big hug! Cheryl -------------------------------------- From: Newtanator Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:21:28 EST To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Hello Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Naomi, How well we know how you feel. My Merlin just went to the bridge Thursday. He was only 10 months old. Yours makes the third this week already. It is wonderful you are doing so much for your other cat. We talk about many things like nutrition and alternative treatments. What your cat had sounds just like what took my Newt. I have lost three now. But the good news is I have three extremely healthy and fat positives as well. There is always hope, never give up. We are here to help you fight and we do win some. will write more later. Barb Welcome to the group. -------------------------------------- From: "Helen Elizabeth Kennebeck" To: "felv mailinglist" Subject: good-bye Moira Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:39:47 -0600 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Naomi, What a sad way to join this group. I am so sorry about your baby Moira. You did the right thing; she is so happy and pain-free now. You must pick up and move on for Keigan. I kept Buddy alive for nearly a year with the help of a great vet. He initially had a dangerously low white count. Interferon brought him up to an acceptable level and he maintained very well. (my friends used to comment on Buddy being a faker just to get attention-----that was how well he was doing!!) He lost his battle yesterday due to a number of complications. Don't give up on Keigan. You would be amazed at how well some cats will do, especially if they're not showing any signs of sickness. Take comfort in your own words, that Moira is breathing freely now and is no longer suffering. I will send many good thoughts and prayers your way. Liz In memory of Buddy 3-13-98 -------------------------------------- From: "Claude Horstmann" To: Subject: Hello Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:35:57 -0500 Reply-to: felvtalk@MailingList.net You have come to the right place.. welcome NAOMI. This list serves, teaches and inspires. The sadness that you share here with us can be dealt with openly and comfortably, and the healing for you and Keigan can begin. The most important thing is to keep your spirit moving along the path- hopefully we can all help each other with that. ...marilyn... -------------------------------------- From: "James G. Wilson" To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:53:41 +0000 Subject: (Fwd) Merlin, Buddy and Moira Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:14:13 -0800 (PST) From: Kat To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Merlin, Buddy and Moira Dear Barb, Liz and Naomi, It is with great sorrow and much tears that I write to send you my deepest sympathies on the losses of Merlin, Buddy and Moira. I heard a song again today by Clint Black, called "Something that we do", and even tho he wrote it as a love song to his wife (Lisa Hartman Black), I think some of the words apply to us and our love ... "It's holding tight, letting go It's flying high and laying low Let your strongest feelings show and your weakness too. It's a little and a lot to ask An endless and a welcome task Love isn't something that we have It's something that we do." For all you've done for your kitties, your love speaks volumes. They were so lucky to be loved by you. Kat (New Jersey) -------------------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:02:33 -0600 (CST) From: "Nancy A. Schmall" To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Hello Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dear Naomi, I am so sorry to hear about Moira. It sounds like you made a good decision though since she was suffering. I know that doesn't make it easy, though. it's very sad to lose a pet--we become so close to them. I'm glad you're starting Keigan on interferon. I am hoping that if we start our FELV+ cats on it fairly soon that perhaps we'll end up having a longer time with them. I'm wondering why the Acemannan; it was my understanding that that was used primarily with tumors. Please take consolation in the fact that Moira is surrounded by love and butterflies and all of our wonderful little companions that have gone before us. Give Keigan a big hug for all of us and welcome to the group! Nancy -------------------------------------- From: katseven@pcsia.com Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:48:04 -0600 Subject: Re: Hello To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dear Naomi, I am thinking about you and Moira. You gave her the compassion and tenderness that her soul craved and helped her make an easy passage. You were mutually blessed. Keigan is a fortunate little boy to have such a caring mom. Susan -------------------------------------- From: "Cheri Gardiner" To: Subject: Re: (Fwd) Merlin, Buddy and Moira Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:39:29 -0600 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Kat, That was a great piece to post. I love it. It speaks volumes to all of us who have lost a little one. Cheri G., Kitty & chaz In memory of my little boy Mickey -------------------------------------- From: "Cheri Gardiner" To: Subject: Re: DMG Date sent: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:45:22 -0600 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Barb, I don't want to bother you right now, but I got the DMG. It is 125mg and a tiny whote tablet. I've been crushing it up and putting it in their wet food. Is that what I should do? Also I am putting a drop of enchincea in their baby food or meat each evening. Is it too much to put it in their breakfast food? I'll let you go now. I don't want to keep you. My prayers and thoughts are with you and your little ones. Cheri G., Kitty & Chaz In memory of my little boy Mickey -------------------------------------- END