Fridday February 20, 1998 Part 3 15 Messages ====================================== From: Newtanator@aol.com Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 18:48:12 EST To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Medication questions Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Cheri, Yes, I have brought in new cats. But as I said on my homepage. Isolate and vaccinate. They are all kept in my bedroom until two full weeks after the last the felv shot. Your home may be perfect for other little felv positive cats that may be healthy but unwanted. I would depend on how strong you are knowing you may loose them. But my feelings are, even if they only live 6 months, that is more than they would have had and it may be hard on me, but good for them. barb -------------------------------------- From: Newtanator@aol.com Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:35:03 EST To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Beast Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Nancy, We have gotten close over the past years. It's funny, he was in college when I was in grade school!! then he was in the military and out of country so much, we hardly saw each other. But now we find we have a lot in common and his wife Bette is more of a sister to me than my blood sisters. Yes, I and their 13 cats are very lucky. barb ps, I believe it is the "Tale of Two Cities" -------------------------------------- Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:47:11 -0500 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net From: "Michele R. Smeal" Subject: Re: Anitra Frazier reply/separation of cats Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Linda: How is Russian today? Thought and strong prayes are with your sweetheart. This damn disease is really getting to me. The feline leuk. shots should be a requirement for anyone who owns a cat, vets everywhere should make sure of it. Michele -------------------------------------- From: DLMLLM@aol.com Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:53:17 EST To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Drugs for Russian Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Barb, I talked to the vet. The Epogen she will try if I want to but she thinks Russian's kidneys are already trying to get the marrow to produce. Her kidneys are functioning okay so they are sending the signal out. She did talk about an antibody steriod. I guess that's right. Forgot the name. It is used by weight lifters but does not do the same to cats. It helps to stimulate them for appetite but does not surpress the immune system. Also gives them feeling of well being. Do you know what it is? Would it hurt Russian. We may switch to immun-regula next week to. This disease does not leave a person or animal with too many options for living. She said they have tried aids drugs on cats to see if they help. Not any better then on humans. Taking her for a transfusion tomorrow. Can see she is worse tonight. Very tired. Blood probably lower tonight. How bad was your cat when they did the transfusion on it. Could the stress have been the cause. There is so much for Russian. Always at the vets now and not wanting to be bothered. I sure love the little shit. Linda -------------------------------------- Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:16:08 -0500 From: "albobo@worldnet.att.net" To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: It's time to say goodbye.. Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Cheryl, I hope that Copley has a peaceful trip to the Bridge. You have done so much for him and now you will get to help him go to the land of sunshine and happy, carefree times. Hugs to you both! > > Kathy G and the 3 Furries in Daytona Beach =^.^= - Rusty =^.^= - Smokey =^.^= - Money See us at: http://cgi.gambitsys.com/homey/webdoc5.htm The Cat: Mother Nature's Masterpiece! -------------------------------------- Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:24:36 -0800 From: Dana Crow Organization: Magical Moments Preschool To: felvtalk@MailingLIst.net Subject: More condolences for another loved one Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dear Kelly, Brad & Wuzzy, So sorry to hear that Beast lost his battle. It must be so difficult for you to have lost 2 precious ones in a week. I admire you for your strength in being there to the end for Beast, I hope that if it ever happens to me I will be able to find that strength as well. I am sure that he knew he was well loved and will be glad to meet up with Stormie and all the others at the Rainbow Bridge. Take care of yourself & Wuzzy too!! Dana (Sookey, Spitzie,& Charlie Cat) -------------------------------------- From: Newtanator@aol.com Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:04:05 EST To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Drugs for Russian Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Linda, I think you mean anabolic (sp) steriods. I really don't know what they would do to a cat. Maybe some of the others know something about it. You don't have to stop using Interferon to use the ImmunoRegulin. I use both. Merlin got his shot, one half cc, under the skin tonight. But to start, I would give it IV. He got it IV for about 6 wks, twice a week. Kallie was VERY bad when she got hers. I forget what her blood work was now, but she was bad. She did not even live 24 hrs. In fact, they left the IV access in, in the form of what we call a "heparin lock" in humans. A small port left in and taped down so you don't have to keep poking them all the time. I think the vet did that knowing I would be bringing her back in, which I was going to do, but she saved me that horrible drive in and died two hours before the vet opened. She had lymphosarcoma. Where are you at? I would be very happy to send you some of the Ambrotose I just got. THey only get a half a teaspoon a day, so what I have will go a long way. Please let me send some to you. I know how hard pressed we get for money and the transfusion is not cheap. Did you get my forward on it?? Let me know if you didn't and I will send it again. At this point, try anything. Maybe some of Merlin's good luck will come with it. Send me your address privately to Newtanator@aol.com Let me know tonight and will try to get it off tomorrow if I can, but it's Saturday...Stupid post office may be closed, but I think they are open until noon, but not sure. hope to here back tonight. Barb -------------------------------------- Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:15:03 -0500 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net From: "Michele R. Smeal" Subject: Copley Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Prayers are with Cheryl and Copley as dear Copley may enter the Rainbow Bridge along with Benny, Sasha, Storm and Beast, Topaz and all the others fur babies. For some reason, Cheryl, God needs our kitties with HIM now, probably because Benny and all the others need friends there right now. They are all licking each others faces and soon Copley will be stress free along with our sweet hearts. Thoughts are with you to get through this like you helped me get through the first "13" days and are still helping ME. Sasha Benny Storm Topaz Beast ............................ & all your friends on felvtalk LOVE you Copley. Michele R. Smeal mrb2@psu.edu 107 Ritenour Bldg. University Health Services Pennsylvania State University University Park, PA 16802 (814) 865-6557 In loving memory of my precious Benny......My precious little angel.. Until we're together again...... Love an animal today....they depend on you.... unconditional love guaranteed.............. -------------------------------------- From: Newtanator@aol.com Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:16:54 EST To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Medication questions Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Cheri, Cats are funny creatures. What one thinks is heaven, the other.....Most days Merlin loves his tuna. He also loves chicken, but apparently not KFC chicken. I treated myself tonight and since he usually scans my supper to see if it's suitable for him, he wants whatever I am eating. But not tonight. Nope, doesn't like the way they cook it I guess. I guess he doesn't like those secret spices. Tonight he prefered bitesized 9 lives beef in gravy over his Iams Lamb and Rice dry. Tuna for dessert. I keep checking back to see there is word on Copley, but she may not post any news tonight. It can be hard because we all sort of relive our own loss with each passing. I give you credit working at a shelter. I couldn't do it. I could not put so many of them to sleep. I know I couldn't. That poor cat is probably so confused and lost, wondering where his real "mama" has gone. Pets are so good with the elderly, but they get lost in the shuffle when they die. Most family members don't want them and they get dumped somewhere. I have spelled out in my will what I want done with my pets if I should drop dead tomorrow. Well that's about it, just keeping vigil for Copley. take care Barb -------------------------------------- From: "Steve Lackow" To: Subject: Re: It's time to say goodbye.. Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:18:22 -0800 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Oh brother. I think the kind of Tai I need right now is a Mai Tai. I am so sad about Copley, Cheryl you can't imagine. You really struck a chord on how close caregiving like this brings you to your cat(s), and how hard that makes it to lose the battle. Chloe has become like a little friend that I take care of. Like all of us I've been down this road before, and every single time the animal has told me when they want to go. In my experience, they go away to hide when they're dying. I did have a wonderful cat named Little K who told me it hurt instead, and I can't imagine that pain because he was in the final stages of kidney cancer and I didn't even know until the vet showed me what to look for. Guilt? Quite the contrary. Every time we lose one, or God forbid do something wrong, we gain knowledge -- and then, people like us go on and save others. That's what's important. -------------------------------------- Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:21:30 -0500 (EST) From: Kat To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Saying "Good-Bye"... Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Hi All, This has not been a very good start to this year - Sasha, Chloe, Benny, Storm, Topaz, Beast, and now possibly Copley. I grieve with you all, even though I don't have any FeLV+ kitties of my own. I have just recently lost one of my own kitties ("Angus") very suddenly and without any warning to Cardiomyopathy - Kitty heart failure. Whenever one of my babies crosses over to the bridge, (it doesn't really matter how old they are - even my 22 year old was still my baby), I have chosen a song for them. It is usually a song that is current at the time of their passing, and played often on the radio, and this song will remind me of them, whenever I hear it, even years later. When "Angus" died, I chose the song by Celine Dion - "My Heart Will Go On" (From the movie Titanic). Some of the words are as follows: My Heart Will Go On Musica/Music/Musique : James Horner Letra/Lyrics/Paroles : Will Jennings Every night in my dreams I see you, I feel you That is how I know you go on Far across the distance And spaces between us You have come to show you go on Near, far, wherever you are I believe that the heart does go on Once more, you open the door And you're here in my heart And my heart will go on and on I just thought I'd pass on my "memorial" idea, for those of you who might like it. Kat (New Jersey) -------------------------------------- Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:23:12 -0500 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net From: "Michele R. Smeal" Subject: Oprah & The Views address Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Here are the addresses again if anyone would e mail our story! http://www.oprahshow.com http://www.theview@abc.com/theview/index.html Thanks Everyone!!!! Michele Michele R. Smeal mrb2@psu.edu 107 Ritenour Bldg. University Health Services Pennsylvania State University University Park, PA 16802 (814) 865-6557 In loving memory of my precious Benny......My precious little angel.. Until we're together again...... Love an animal today....they depend on you.... unconditional love guaranteed.............. -------------------------------------- From: "James G. Wilson" To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:28:15 +0000 Subject: (Fwd) Cheryl and Copely Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Reply-To: "Carol Gentry" From: "Carol Gentry" To: Subject: Cheryl and Copely Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:21:40 -0800 Cheryl, I just wanted you to know that my thoughts are with you. Is Copely still hanging in there, I hope so. I know how hard it is but you're doing the right thing. For me at least I knew when Sasha died that I was with her, holding her and cuddling her. I can feel your pain. We are going out of town tomorrow but I will check my E-Mail before we go and through the night. Please know that my prayers are with and Copely. Love from Carol from Vancouver -------------------------------------- Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:03:53 +0000 From: LawBet Organization: Home for Wayward Felines To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Beast Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Nancy, Yes, the quotes are from the last page of "A Tale of Two Cities". P.S. I'm probably luckier than Barb is. But thanks anyway. Larry (The Lurker) -------------------------------------- Date sent: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:23:55 -0600 From: Cheryl and Michael To: "felvtalk@MailingList.net" Subject: Copley lives on.... Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net To All: Copley lives on in my heart and in mymemories. He passed away at 5:30 this evening. He was never able to drift off to sleep, but I was still thankful that I made the decision I did. I was able to be with him right to the end and luckily stay strong. I didn't think I would be able to, but when the moment arrives it is amazing how much strength we can muster. I laid my face next to his and told him over and over what joy he brought to my world and how much he was loved. I've had many pets, but there has only been one other that I feel I made such a strong mental bond with. I have definitely lost my best friend and I feel a big emptiness. From experience I know this feeling will never go away, but I also know time will make it easier. Copley will never be forgotten and will continue to bring a smile to my face. For all of the messages I received, Thank you all. I received great comfort from each one. Steve - Can I belly up to that bar with you? It's on me. The Lurker - Your story and intent were touching. Barb - GO MERLIN GO Marilyn - Great love, Indeed! Linda, Nancy and Michele - Thank you. To expand on Jim's thoughts, I hope Copley does not go in vain. I intend to continue fighting for exposure for Jim and our cause. Copley may be gone, but the problem lives on. This is so unfair and angers me so. It would not suit my conscience to give up now when we still have so many heroes in the group. One more note, I do want to thank all of the open minded fighting vets. Copley's vet in particular, Dr. Folger, has been outstanding. There are many underlying blessings in all of this and one of them is that we found an outstanding doctor for the rest of our little ones. Afterall, Copley has a sister Fenway that we must watch now. They are in good hands. He was unbelievable with Copley. He has a fighter attitude and he understood and cared right through to the end. Of course, I would not want to forget all of the wonderful people that work at that clinic. It is doctors like Dr. Folger and Dr. Meyers that will help us all in this battle. Sincerely, Cheryl (now the other Lurker) and The Cop Man (Copley) -------------------------------------- END OF PART 3: See Part 4 at: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/8025/9802204.txt