Tuesday February 10, 1998 Part 2 5 Messages ====================================== Date sent: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:18:34 -0500 From: Brad To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: healing tears Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Kat, Thank you so much for the healing tears. I haven't cried so much in weeks. I have been on a sorta auto pilot. The tears for my sick babies seem to stop coming. I get so worn out taking care of them that I sometimes forget to cry...either that or it's hope that keeps my tears away. You gave me a good cleansing cry. I will print it out and hang it up. I lost my orange boy in October to a car. I had him for six years. Again, much thanks!!! Kelly -------------------------------------- Date sent: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:49:44 -0500 From: Brad To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Michele's Story Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Michele, I read your story. I feel in my heart that a guy who loves animals as much as you is going to come into your life soon. Just think, you two can buy a farm and raise the 'kids' and they will have plenty of room to run. Keep Dreaming and the dream are bound to come true. I'm pulling for you. Kelly, 'Storm', 'Beast', 'Wuzzy' -------------------------------------- From: "phaedrus" To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Date sent: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:09:21 +0000 Subject: (Fwd) Re: cancer treatment/homeopathic remedies Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net > ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > From: WORKPARK@aol.com > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 01:45:33 EST > To: felvtalk@MailingList.net > Subject: cancer treatment/homeopathic remedies > Reply-to: felvtalk@MailingList.net > > Wow! > > I just started reading the archives from the first week in January and my > brain is on overload. I want to do the best I can for Rissa-tai, but I don't > know where to begin. > > We are waiting to speak with the oncologist to get some more information about > the chemotherapy (we have a script for Alkeran) to treat her cancer (plasma cell > myoloma) before starting the regimen. This cancer does not always appear in the > form of a tumor, and in her case it seems to be dispersed in the bone marrow. > They diagnosed this from an elevated spike in her globulin range. She IFA tested > FeLV+ 1 1/2 weeks ago and we will begin treating her with Immunoregulin and > Interferon shortly. One of the problems with the chemo is that it suppresses > appetite (which was already a problem before she was put on the prednisone), and > can make the cat lethargic (also a prior problem) as well. Prednisone is also > used in the treatment of this type of cancer. > > Can she be showing up a false FeLV+ because of this type of cancer, or vice > versa? No, the FeLV IFA test is quite specific. She has FeLV. > We don't want to overmedicate her if it isn't necessary. They did not > do a bone marrow biopsy to diagnose the cancer. Can they tell if she has this > cancer just from the globulin spike? If there is a specific spike in the immunoelectrophoresis test this is one of the necessary "positives" to diagnose the disease. A bone marrow biopsy would be helpful if it is positive, but would not rule out the problem if it was not. > > Since her appetite and energy level have improved since taking Prednisone and > Pet Tinic since the beginning of January, do we want to start her on the > Immunoregulin and the Interferon to improve her immune system before starting > the chemotherapy, or should we do this at the same time? We don't want to see > her lose any more weight or her appetitie again. I would start her on the immunotherapy now and follow with the chemo. > > Also, it seems that there are a lot of different homeopathic remedies out > there. Is there one regimen that everyone seems to be having luck with? The best homeopathic remedies for cancer include the use of enzymes and antioxidants. The best nutrition you can get into your cat is also very helpful. I can provide information on a source of these enzymes and antioxidants that I use for your vet or yourself. They are compatible with corticosteroids, chemotherapy, antibiotics, and immunostimulators. M. W. Myers, D.V.M. > Jim, I think these are questions Dr. Myers may be in a better position to > answer for me. Could you please forward this to him? Thanks. But if anyone > else has some answers, I'd appreciate it. > > Pam -------------------------------------- Date sent: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:36:04 -0600 (CST) From: "Nancy A. Schmall" To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Correction Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net George, Jake is doing great! We did not rule out FIP,but my vet thinks he would not be getting so much better if he had it. As far as we knows, he is strictly FELV+. I prefer spending money on treatments rather than diagnostics unless they can help clarify protocols-- and of course, checking up on bloodwork. Jake is on decreasing doses of prednisone, daily interferon, 2 week shots of immunoregulan, vit. c.,pet-tinnic, & bioplasma. He also gets to eat raw liver and egg yolks. Thanks for asking! Nancy -------------------------------------- Date sent: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:29:57 -0700 (MST) From: owner-felvtalk@MailingList.net To: owner-felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: BOUNCE felvtalk@MailingList.net: Admin request of type /\buns\w*b/i at line 9 >From bounced@mailinglist.net Tue Feb 10 21:29:56 1998 Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net ([204.119.177.49]) by mailinglist.net (8.8.5) id VAA09697; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:29:56 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: mailinglist.net: Host [204.119.177.49] claimed to be norway.it.earthlink.net Received: from [208.255.20.108] (1Cust108.tnt18.nyc3.da.uu.net [208.255.20.108]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA11570 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:28:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802110428.UAA11570@norway.it.earthlink.net> Subject: Pachy - well there you go again Date: Tue, 10 Feb 98 23:29:42 -0500 x-sender: pachy@mail.earthlink.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: George Molnar To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I realize that this list is primarily for a discussion of Feline Leukemia but I would like to think that I could request assistance for our cat, Pachy, who most assuredly does not have FeLV. First, I am not an experienced FeLV caretaker, but I have had enough experience with the diagnoses of feline diseases to know something about FeLV, FIP and other diseases. I will be unsubscribing from this list in a day or so. Before I do, I will post a short message with a few url's that I have found helpful in diagnosing Pachy's condition, some of which are iinformative about FIV, FIP and FeLV. It is always difficult to "jump in" - will my comments seem too simplistic for those who have struggled with FeLV for years? Will they appear too confusing to those who have just encountered the disease? For what it is worth, two of the best vets who are cancer specialists I have run into (and I say this not based on what they did for Pachy - as I said, they both told me that they couldn't GIVE Pachy cancer, but for their compassion and knowledge, and what they have done for the companion animals of friends of mine - from cats to greyhounds), are Dr. Ann Jeglum West Chester, PA 610/692-6272 and Dr. Rogers Fred (and his wife Kim) Red Bank, NJ 732/747-3636 Pachy, our cat, continues to defy (and define) veterinary medical history. If you are not familiar with his medical history, please refer to the url in my signature - the short story - losing control of limbs over the past 30 months - nothing shows up on tests - nothing - spinal taps, bone marrow, myleograms, no FIP, no Felv, no toxo, no storage disease, no nothing. Pachy recently had an MRI. It was an intensive and exhaustive series of scans - eight scans and over two hundred images - brain, spinal, prone, T1, with C etc. The outcome was informative, devastating and inconclusive. In laymen's terms (my terms), he has approximately 80% of his brain and 70% of his spinal neurological system. The rest is simply not there. Initial diagnoses have focused on ancephaly, hydrocephalus (water on the brain) and hydromyelia - most likely - (enlarged central spinal canal of the spinal cord) and Chiari Type I malformation The MRI shows enlargement of the lateral, third, and especially the fourth ventricle. There is also an accumulation of fluid within the spinal cord in the neck and thorax. These conditions are referred to as hydrocephalus and syringomyelia, respectively. The enlargement of the fourth ventricle likely accounts for the vestibular signs (incoordination, nystagmus) and the syringomyelia likely explains the limb weakness. It is thought that his condition is likely genetic, rather than trauma, viral, or otherwise infectious. It appears that his brain and spinal cord developed to a certain point and then simply stopped. We know that there is no cure, no reversal and no recovery. What we are now considering is how to maintain his quality of life. Several treatments/operations have been suggested. We are very fortunate that the veterinarians and human doctors we have had involved in Pachy's saga are some of the best people in the world - no ego's, no reservations about a second or third or fourth opinion, no reluctance to accept help and advice from other vets. We want to gather as much information, and as many options, as possible before we make our decision regarding the possible next steps: surgery, medication, nothing or whatever. Recently (the past month or two) he has lost a lot of strength in his limbs, falling down more and more, and less likely to get up and walk around. He has also started to urinate outside of the "litter box" we have set up for him ( no litter in it - he hates falling down - just a towel) but it is more likely his inability to get to the box rather than a problem with his kidneys or urinary organs. He still eats like a lion, and loves to go out side - it has been in the high 40's here outside of Philadelphia the past week or so, he walks (stumbles) around, digs in the mulch, eats the grass, and loves it. So, what I am asking, is that if you have had any experience with this condition, or know of anyone who has had, or know of a really, really good doctor (not necessarily a vet as Pachy has been examined by human medical doctors - especially neurologists, pain researchers and pediatricians since his symptoms are similar to congenital problems in young humans), please let me know. In order not to waste anyone's time, I would like to let you know who has reviewed Pachy's MRI and who we have currently assisting us in our decision process: Dr. Tony DeCarlo Red Bank Veterinary Hospital Red Bank, NJ is leading the analysis of Pachy's condition. Dr. William B. Thomas DVM Dipl.ACVIM(Neurology) University of Tennessee Dr. Ted Valli College of Veterinary Med Univ of Illinois Dr. Nick Sharp Assistant Professor of Neurology College of Veterinary Medicine North Carolina State University Dr. Alexander de Lahunta DVM,PhD Department of Anatomy College of Veterinary Medicine Cornell University Dr. Joe N. Kornegay, DVM, PhD Diplomate ACVIM (Neurology) Professor and Chairman College of Veterinary Medicine University of Missouri Dr. Anne E. Chauvet Department of Clinical Sciences Veterinary Clinical Teaching Hospital School of Veterinary Medicine University of Wisconsin Dr. Joane Parent DVM, MVSc, ACVIM Neurology Ontario Veterinary College University of Guelph Dr. P.J. Brophy, Professor of Veterinary Anatomy & Cell Biology Dept. of Veterinary Sciences, University of Edinburgh Dr. Roger Clemmons DVM, PhD Professor of Neurology and Neurosurgery University of Florida Dr. Betsy Daryl-Hart University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA Dr. Richard Joseph Animal Medical Center New York, NY If there is anyone else that you can recommend, please let me know. I can send them copies of Pachy's medical history and his MRI images (sort of like going to K-Mart and asking for another set of prints - although it is a little more expensive) Thank you for your support. Be seeing you George Molnar for pachy mailto:pachy@earthlink.net Pachy's Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pachy -------------------------------------- END