Thursday February 5, 1998 Part 1 16 Messages ====================================== From: WORKPARK@aol.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 00:47:47 EST To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Russian Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Glad to hear Russian is doing so much better. Keep us posted. Pam -------------------------------------- From: WORKPARK@aol.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 01:08:31 EST To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Info re Prozyme and questions Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net I just discovered an ad to try a bottle of the enzyme Dr. Myers mentioned, Prozyme enzyme supplement, for free. Call 800-522-5537 per the ad, and you will have to charge $5.00 to your credit card to cover shipping and handling. Not a bad deal, hm? Is anyone else having a problem with their FeLV+ cats itching/scratching a lot? It was one of the first indications that Rissa-tai wasn't feeling well. Other than the prednisone, which she is already on, is there anything else that I can do? Since the vet prescribed it, she's not scratching as much, but she still has little scabs in her ears that are taking a long time to heal. Also, it seems that if we can get her off the prednisone, that would be best, but will the itching come back? My older cat's test results have all come back neg. for FeLV. Both my babies are miserable when separated, and they've been together for 2 1/2 years. Our gut feeling is that even tho she was neg. on the IFA test, she's already been exposed at this point, and it would be extremely difficult to separate them. Any suggestions? Lastly, what is a normal cbc level for a FeLV+ cat? Thanks for all your warm wishes. Right back at ya. Pam -------------------------------------- From: DLMLLM@aol.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:35:02 EST To: Felvtalk@mailinglist.net Subject: Russian Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Hi Everyone. Thanks for the info on FIP. That explains why when we took her to the new place rhe vet was worried about her fat stomach. But she has always had a pot belly. She is very tired. Let her out of the carrier and she stagers. She headed for under my desk again. The playpen she is not happy with. But it serves a porpose. The other cats cannot get in and she can rest. She started sitting in the litter box, had to move her twice. Question. If medicine is to be given every 12 hours and they give first dose at 6am, can you adjust so you can do it say at 8 or should you get up at 6 and stay on schedule? And they gave me AD Science Diet and a syringe to feed her with instructions to feed when needed. Should I set up a regular feeding schedule. Say every fours hours. It will have to be forced for awhile. She is not interested in the can milk but maybe needs to readjust some. She is bitchy to, growling alot. Let me know, I want to do this right. Linda -------------------------------------- Date sent: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 08:57:21 -0500 From: Brad To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Separation of Cats Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Pam, Four yrs ago, I had an 8 mon old kitten who had been born with FIP. I had to have it put down. My vet warned against exposing the other cat to the kitten. But I couldn't (apt too small). I had him 6 yrs(til he was hit by a car..another story) never showed a day of so much as a sniffle (he even went outside sometimes). Now I have 2, 20 wk old kitens, both with FeLV and FIP. Again I am being warned re: exposing the older cat. He is - for FeLV but is being vaccinated. At night when the kittens are curled up with me in bed, he walks around crying for them until I physically show him where they are. So there is no way I could separate them. I want my cats happy and being together makes them happy. I am very strong in the belief of "God's Will" I am doing what I can not to expose him ie: not allowing him to eat from the same bowl...which I guess is useless since they share the same water bowls and litter. But I keep the litter clean and use a ton of lysol each time I clean it out. He is receiving the same supplements as the kittens to help boost his immune system and hopefully fight off any 'invasion'. It's a little long winded but that is my feeling. Kelly -------------------------------------- From: DLMLLM@aol.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:26:41 EST To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: separation of cats Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Michele. When Russian was diagnozed with the feline we got are other cats tested and they were okay. They got the shots right away. They have lived together for 6 years like that. The other two do not show signs of it at all. But since my last vet was so lax in doing anything or retesting we have decided to have them retested soon anyhow. We think we figured out where she got it. From a stray who jumped her once and drew blood. Take heart it will work out. Linda -------------------------------------- Date sent: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 09:44:07 -0500 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net From: "Michele R. Smeal" Subject: Re: Separation of Cats Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Kelly: I know what you mean about how HARD it is to separate your kitties. Benny is SO used to playing with Timmy and Boots and it's so hard now. I have let them see each other, but not touch. I know how serious this illness is and it's not fair to infect my healthy cat, Boots. Timmy, my other kitty who tested positive but has NO SX at all is in a large open air kennel in my basement and Boots is also there but roams free. That's the only choice I have and Benny stays upstairs in the house. The basment is large and bright and I play the radio for them constantly at a nice volume. They used to all stay there and play, but a couple times when I opened the door, Benny went to the top of the steps and looked down as if to say "I just want to see you guys and I'm here' but I don't want to get you sick or feel like playing"...... I KNOW, KELLY it's SO unfair and I know it only gets harder, especially since Timmy and Boots raised my little Benny and they are NOT from the same litter at all. They all come from different areas. I am just glad I have caring people like my felvtalk friends who KNOW what we're talking about. Let me know if I can help. Michele and Benny -------------------------------------- Date sent: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:16:12 -0500 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net From: "Michele R. Smeal" Subject: separation of cats Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net My Timmy, tested positive and I KNOW my former vet said after Boots, my neg. kitty gets his 2nd shot on the 9th then they can be together, IS THIS TRUE? I wish it were, but I do NOT want to infect Boots who is SO HEALTHY and beautiful. ( I know, all of our cats are beautiful!!!) Dr. Myers????????????????????????????????? Thanks! Michele Michele R. Smeal mrb2@psu.edu 107 Ritenour Bldg. University Health Services Pennsylvania State University University Park, PA 16802 (814) 865-6557 Have you hugged your pet today?????!!!!!! Love an animal today....they depend on you.... unconditional love guaranteed.............. -------------------------------------- Date sent: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 09:19:59 -0600 From: Cheryl and Michael To: "felvtalk@MailingList.net" Subject: eating cat litter? Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net I know we have discussed this before, but I can't find the past related messages: When a cat begins to eat litter I thought I read some messages determining this was a deficiency. Does anyone remember what this deficiency is? Thanks in advance for the help. Cheryl and Copley -------------------------------------- From: DLMLLM@aol.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:29:12 EST To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: eating cat litter? Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Cheryl and Copley We had cats who did this, mainly kittens who were learning, but did have an older on who did this when we changed to the green litter. Needless to say we went back to the old type. Linda -------------------------------------- From: "Lynn Stickels" To: "felvtalk" Subject: Re: Info re Prozyme and questions Date sent: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 07:27:32 -0800 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net My kitty, Stinker has the same problem with dry and itchy skin. I use an anti-itch spray and conditioner on him and brush him everyday. He really likes it and it seems to help him alot. Since adding vitamin supplements to his diet, the hair has been growing back on the bald spots he had. I have 16 other kitties, 3 of which are positive(2-asystamatic). They are all together and happy. They all receive the leukemia shots. I can not see separating them to a life of isolation and lonliness. Like you said, they have already been exposed and have always been together. If my children were sick, I would not get rid of them nor would I put them away in a separate room. I just do the best I can for all. For the other question about the cbc level, I don't know but would like to know also. I was sure grateful for the information about the prozyme. I will give them a call.:)............................Lynn(Stinker) -------------------------------------- Date sent: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:32:32 -0500 From: Tookie Myers To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: Info re Prozyme and questions Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Prozyme is a good product. I have used it in the past with good result. I have been using Digest A Meal of late as it appears to be more effective. If food allergies are involved in the itching, Prozyme will lessen the signs as breaking down the food into smaller components reduces its antigenicity (allergic effect). With the reduction in the immune status of many FeLV cats generalized dermatomycosis ("ringworm") is relatively common. This will not appear like the classic ringworm lesions and must be treated with griseofulvin. Bacterial skin infections are also a chronis problem, but these will respond to a variety of antibiotics. Culture and sensitivity may be in order to give the veterinarian a list of treatment options. The cbc of a FeLV positive should still remain in the low normal ranges for optimal survival and comfort. Keeping positive cats with negative cats is always a touchy issue. As long as you are aware of the risk involved, I would generally recommend for the household stability to vaccinate everyone annually and keep them together. This will not guarantee that the negative cat will not get the disease, but it will lessen the chance. M. W. Myers, D.V.M. -------------------------------------- Date sent: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:39:19 -0500 From: Tookie Myers To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: separation of cats Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net The vaccine will reduce the risk of tranmission of the disease, but will not guarantee that it will not be transmitted. If you keep a positive with a negative cat I vaccinate both of them annually. M. W. Myers, D.V.M. -------------------------------------- Date sent: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:53:35 -0500 From: Tookie Myers To: felvtalk@MailingList.net Subject: Re: eating cat litter? Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net This action of cats is often a mystery. Supplementation has appeared to stop it at times, but there are no controlled studies to verify this. The cats may have stopped for some other reason and the supplement administration was just coincidental. Changing litter brands or types sometimes helps. M. W. Myers, D.V.M. -------------------------------------- Date sent: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:56:41 -0500 To: felvtalk@MailingList.net From: "Michele R. Smeal" Subject: Re: separation of cats Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Thanks, Linda!!! -------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Info re Prozyme and questions Date sent: Thu, 5 Feb 98 13:36:04 -0500 From: George Molnar To: Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net >Lastly, what is a normal cbc level for a FeLV+ cat? A CBC is a set of tests. I do not know the "normal" for a FeLV+ cat, but there are lists of reference ranges at http://www.uq.edu.au/~pbhthomp/ Be seeing you George Molnar for pachy mailto:pachy@earthlink.net Pachy's Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pachy -------------------------------------- From: "AZ-HART" To: Copies to: "Dana Crow" , "AZ-HART" Subject: Re: Amoxycillan dangers??? Date sent: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:16:40 -0700 Send reply to: felvtalk@MailingList.net Dana, I've had my FeLV+ kitten "Topaz" on amoxi since early December. She has bad iris problems in one eye, and has been on atropine (an eye drop) and prednisone. She began interefon about 10 days ago, and the Vet said to continue using the amoxicillin. Her interferon protocol says 7 days on, 7 days off, and so on, so she is currently off the intereferon for day 3. She also has mild respiratory, so I also give her Gentocin durafilm drops in her nostrils two or three times a day (helps dry up sinuses). Although my vet did say in one case that Amoxi can be hard on the liver (or kindeys?), I ask every time about should I continue the Amoxi on "Topaz", and she always says yes. Irene Hart Arizona Homeless Animals Rescue Team (AZ-HART) http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/azhart Email us at: azhart@sprynet.com -------------------------------------- END OF PART 1: See Part 2 at: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/9802052.txt