J: Right, yes, I was just about to say it.
H: So, you need to answer this very important question!
J: Of course I cannot say I am a philanderer!
H: I don�t care if you are a philanderer or not.
J: Right, because you know, during middle school, for example, I love playing basketball. For sure there will be many die-hard basketball playmates. Then together with these people, you would� everyone would often play together.
H: I want to know how you would refuse them.
J: How I would refuse?
H: I heard of a man, he was also tall, masculine. Men are always attracted to him� he always refuses them forcefully, and is very fierce in telling the other person �It is absolutely out of the question!� He said if you don�t refuse them like this, they will always feel as if there are still remnants of a little hope. �Next time, I will try again, he is just shy, he needs to be led into it. Xiao Bai Tu needs to be led�� ( Jerry laughs)

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H: � He said if you don�t refuse them like this, they will always feel as if there are still remnants of a little hope. �Next time, I will try again, he is just shy, he needs to be led into it. Xiao Bai Tu need to be led�� (Jerry laughs) How do you refuse them? Because everybody thinks� actually, I feel the question is� how does a man refuse another man� I really would like to know�
J: None. I will very emphatically  say that I am not�
H: Just tell him�
J: Because, I�m not means I�m not. There is no way you can change that truth. Right�right.  Moreover, ever since I was small, my mother always gave me the idea that I should like women. (Jerry laughs again.)  I was never�
H: Since the beginning, you were just not moved that way.
J: Right.
H: Because some reports say you have a very good friend, both of you often ride the motorbike�
J: It�s like what I just said. Before, we liked to play basketball, then exercise, surely you have your so called basketball group, where you have similar habits, like die-hards� just like... I believe if you have a die hard group, you take a bath together, whatever� you won�t feel it�s strange because even during military obligation, we were all together. You know, some people will intentionally use these unusual scenarios and project it onto other people. I, personally don�t consider it like that.
H: So, actually, this is all still ok. Encountering those for example, those who spread rumors. Although I have really seen when your face turned foul in a previous program.
J: You were saying similar to which instance?
H: That one with TAO ZI.
J: The one with TAO ZI. Right.
H: I thought then, how come a person like you has no EQ.
J: Right, I also felt like an idiot. Everyone actually got accustomed to using the word �foul� to describe my face (grins)
H: Actually, at that time, they should have let you say a few more words.
J: Let�s put it this way, if I have any ideas about this person or if I have something to say and you would not let me say it, I would feel very sad. I would feel� you know� even though you are not nice, I would still like to say them to you� to let you know.  I only have good intentions. I don�t like those kinds of feelings where� if I dislike a person, I have to keep it to myself, and then in front of this person, I still have to pretend to be nice, whatever...
H: But do you or do you not know that sometimes what you say may not necessarily be right?
J: I�m not insisting I am always right. It�s only that at least I get to express my thoughts and let others know at least what I think.
H: What happened that time� you felt.....
J: That was because at that time, I kept wanting to explain a few things to TAO ZI. But, maybe those people outside again were saying other things� causing trouble until finally , we both misunderstood each other. Possibly I thought she said something while she thought I might have done something. That�s why I don�t like this kind of feeling. I really don�t like it. Because there is no way I can do it�if I really dislike you now,  or if I am clearly prejudiced against you� then I would still come to your program or�
H: You can�t do it.
J: �to be like this with you. How do I say it� it�s being a person. I feel, I still prefer my being a little more direct. Of course, this so-called bluntness does not mean speaking out my thoughts when not agreeable with something. I would say I will communicate with others. I don�t want others to think�
H: How would you communicate?
J: Right now, the means of communication of course would mean learning �to be good� (he smiles knowingly while she laughs out loud.), it�s to circumvent,  don�t be�
H: ( She laughingly says) So after all that�s been said, the way to do it is just to circumvent! Actually, it�s just circumventing!
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