Post subject: The Pharaohs Cross.

The Muslim  Ahmed Bahgat  wrote this post to Starjade

On Saturday Nov 20, 2004 12:20 pm on the Liberty Unites Forum.

Starfade the poph, you said i do not respond to any of your argument, but i found i do and never hear from you back would you please respond to this that i found in my previous posts and you never responded here it is liar:

you claimed the following aya in the Quran is wrong:

“Be sure I will cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides and I will crucify you all”
[ The Quran ; Sura No. 7 ; Al-A’Raf:124 ]

The Quran is describing the Egyptian Pharaoh talking to the magicians who dropped to ground and declaring their unconditional belief in Moses’s God after Moses beat the magic with the help of Allah

the Egyptian Pharaoh is saying that he will cut the magicians hands and feet on opposite sides then He will crucify them

your argument that Jesus appeared some 1500 years or about after Moses, and crucifixion should not be used by the Pharaohs of Egypt

honestly I laughed at your argument “without any disrespect”, because first of all why you linking crucifixion to Christ alone, crucifixion was known for many years before Christ, it is a human invention not something associated with an appearance of a prophet

in the past they used to kill people and hang their corpses on trees, poles, walls, even now in Iraq as they did with the contractors that they killed and burnt their bodies then hanged the corpses on a bridge

this damn horrific crime against humanity, is designed by humans for the purpose of only terrorising all other people who dares and do something like what the victims did, regardless it is a belief of a civil manner, same like beheading now and the crucifixion method is the internet

and to give you some concrete evidences and not just my personal opinion, let me explain further that you are logically speaking wrong

firstly the Quran said “on opposite sides” this means you cut a left arm and a right leg, or a right arm and a left leg

so how the hell they gonna nail a corpse with only one hand on a cross? This is a good question for you Starjade, but before you come up with your answer “which might be horizontally, lol” I would like to continue mine

the only logic they gonna nail it on a pole, or on a tree, the corpse only has one hand mate, as the cross member is not required, right bro?

to continue on, the Quran actually mentioned this exactly in another Sura about Moses talking about the same incident, that seems you have missed in your quest to find your 20 odd undisputed mistakes, let’s have a look at:

“Be sure I will cut off your hands and feet on opposite sides, and I will have you crucified on trunks of palm-trees, so you shall know for certain, which of us can give the more lasting Punishment”
[ The Quran ; Sura No. 20 ; Ta’Ha:71 ]

it seems to me starjade, that Allah knew that you will exist and come with that silly claim so He exposed your lie in another aya 1400 years ago, I have to consider this a miracle of the many Quran miracles

The Quran was very clear that the magicians “as stated in the second aya in my post” were crucified on TRUNKS of PALM-TREES not a CROSS

The first aya where the Quran said the magicians will be crucified, period, did not really say they will be crucified like Jesus neither on a cross, so that is why you should concede that it was your mistake that you did not read the quran thoroughly as well you understood the aya under dispute, wrong

And as I said before you should take it of your list, otherwise you will be making a fool of yourself and be just nothing but an ignorant and arrogant enemy of Islam

If you do not take it of your list then I would like to remind you with this aya that truly describes you and any atheist for that matter who dares to attack the Quran without even speaking its language and without any proper knowledge, so here it is let me sura 3:7 you

“He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book. In it are verses basic or fundamental clear (in meaning); they are the foundation of the Book. Others are not entirely clear. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is not entirely clear. Seeking DISCORD, and searching for its interpretation, But no one knows its true meaning except Allah”
[ The Quran ; Sura No. 3 ; Al-Imran:7 ]

Starjades Reply to the Kuffar Bahmyed Bahgat.

 Post subject: The Pharaohs Cross. Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:21 pm.

Part one.

Kuffar Bahgat as you said: starfade the prophet, you said i do not respond to any of your argument, but i found i do and never hear from you back would you please respond to this that i found in my previous posts and you never responded here it is liar:

Starjade says: Well now Kuffar Baghat I missed this Post of yours so it was as well that you pointed it out. I shall now respond a reply to you and Muslims like you. Yes I have said that you could not and did not defend your religion of Islam against my Revelations and the many many errors that are found in the Koran. Which you did not and could not. The Sura 4:82 says that if just one error exists in the Koran then the Koran did not come from God. So every Muslim including yourself must dispute all the errors that I have mentioned not just one.

Kuffar Bahgat you said: you claimed the following aya in the Quran is wrong:

“Be sure I will cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides and I will crucify you all” [ The Quran ; Sura No. 7 ; Al-A’Raf:124 ] The Quran is describing the Egyptian Pharaoh talking to the magicians who dropped to ground and declaring their unconditional belief in Moses’s God after Moses beat the magic with the help of Allah the Egyptian Pharaoh is saying that he will cut the magicians hands and feet on opposite sides then He will crucify them

Starjade says: This I believe was the full statement regarding that Sura 7:124. We Find Pharaoh admonishing his sorcerers because they believed in the superiority of Moses’s Power over theirs. Pharaoh threatens them with cutting off their hands and feet on opposite sides, and then says they will all die on the cross. But there were no crosses in those days. Crucifixion was first practised by the Phoenicians and the Carthaginians and then borrowed extensively by the Romans close to the Time of Jesus, 1700 years after the Pharaoh.

Kuffar Bahgat you said:
Your argument that Jesus appeared some 1500 years or about after Moses, and crucifixion should not be used by the Pharaohs of Egypt. honestly I laughed at your argument “without any disrespect”, because first of all why you linking crucifixion to Christ alone, crucifixion was known for many years before Christ, it is a human invention not something associated with an appearance of a prophet.

Starjade says: The Sura 7:124 is an error that was found out and pointed out by another scholar. I simply repeated his claims. So you are laughing at the wrong man. You would be the wise not to laugh out loud as that scholar has pointed out a great many errors in the Koran and so he is a lot smarter than you. Crucifixion was first practised by the Phoenicians and Carthaginians then borrowed extensively by the Romans 1700 years after the Pharaoh had died.

Kuffar Bahgat you said: in the past they used to kill people and hang their corpses on trees, poles, walls, even now in Iraq as they did with the contractors that they killed and burnt their bodies then hanged the corpses on a bridge this damn horrific crime against humanity, is designed by humans for the purpose of only terrorising all other people who dares and do something like what the victims did, regardless it is a belief of a civil manner, same like beheading now and the crucifixion method is the internet.

Starjade says: I agree that Crucifixion was not an invention of torture just for a Prophet. Yet Jesus is proven by religious law to be a Fraud so he was not a Prophet from God anyway. Hanging corpses on a tree or stake or walls is hardly true crucifixion. As was pointed out such a practice began 1700 years after the Pharaoh had died not during the Times when the Pharaoh lived.

Kuffar Bahgat you said: and to give you some concrete evidences and not just my personal opinion, let me explain further that you are logically speaking wrong. firstly the Quran said “on opposite sides” this means you cut a left arm and a right leg, or a right arm and a left leg so how the hell they gonna nail a corpse with only one hand on a cross? This is a good question for you Starjade, but before you come up with your answer “which might be horizontally, I would like to continue mine.

Starjade says: If the Muslims mutilate a body and cannot crucify that body then it is odd that the Koran claims the Pharaoh killed criminals that way. But then Muslims did not exist during the Times of Moses or the Pharaoh so it is odd that you claim now that they did mutilate corpses as the Muslims do today. The Koran is giving a Muslim view of such a death and not considering that the Egyptians were not Muslims nor did they practise the mutilations, which we all see in the Islamic world of today. The Egyptians did not use crucifixion as depicted during the Times of the Romans and Muslims. Such punishment as pointed out began some 1700 years after the death of the Pharaoh.

Kuffar Bahgat you said: the only logic they gonna nail it on a pole, or on a tree, the corpse only has one hand mate, as the cross member is not required, right bro?

Starjade says: Then the death you speak of is not like the roman crucifixion whereas the Koran speak of crucifixion and yet who then said that crucifixion needed a cross member to hang a body. The point I think is that crucifixion began 1700 years after the death of the Pharaoh and no Muslims lived in those days and so this Mutilation theory of yours is not acceptable, as we are speaking of crucifixion not dismemberment. That dismemberment is a Muslim view of torture still practiced today. Whereas we are speaking of the crucifixion as if practised by those Egyptians as mentioned in the Koran. You admit this error exists by your own words.

Kuffar Bahgat you said: to continue on, the Quran actually mentioned this exactly in another Sura about Moses talking about the same incident, that seems you have missed in your quest to find your 20 odd undisputed mistakes, let’s have a look at:

[ The Quran ; Sura No. 20 ; Ta’Ha:71 ] “Be sure I will cut off your hands and feet on opposite sides, and I will have you crucified on trunks of palm-trees, so you shall know for certain, which of us can give the more lasting Punishment”

Starjade says: Yes by your own admission the Muslim way of torture and mutilation continues to be said by your own admission. But that is the Muslim way not the Egyptian way of the times of the Pharaoh. The Sura 7:124: Mentions crucifixion of the prisoners, which was not practised during those days of the Pharaoh. That practice of Crucifixion began 1700 years after the death of the Pharaoh. So by your own admission this error does exist in the Koran and has been interpreted by a Muslim with a Muslim view, who did not know that crucifixion was not practised as a punishment during the days when the Pharaoh lived.


Kuffar Bahgat you said: it seems to me starjade, that Allah knew that you will exist and come with that silly claim so He exposed your lie in another aya 1400 years ago, I have to consider this a miracle of the many Quran miracles

Starjade says: Of course the Living God knew I was coming he Prophesied my arrival to Moses a long Time ago and I was expected. I have no reason to lie and this error in the Koran was found out by another scholar. It is mentioned in many places as an error made by Muslims in the Koran. We are speaking about statements written in the Koran and also about written history and so where then could a lie be existing. Except of course in the writings of the Koran. Which we already knew. The Koran is not a Miracle it is the Arabs Golden Calf a Blasphemy in the eyes of the Living God. And your God Allah is the God of Muhammad’s imagination. Muhammad has been proven to be a liar and a fraud who was presumptuous to think he could speak in Gods name.

Kuffar Bahgat you said: The Quran was very clear that the magicians “as stated in the second aya in my post” were crucified on TRUNKS of PALM-TREES not a CROSS

Starjade says: But we were not speaking of that Sura we were speaking of the Sura 7:124. Where it says crucified. You are only proving the error exists.

Kuffar Bahgat you said: The first aya where the Quran said the magicians will be crucified, period, did not really say they will be crucified like Jesus neither on a cross, so that is why you should concede that it was your mistake that you did not read the quran thoroughly as well you understood the aya under dispute, wrong

Starjade says: It says crucified and so that is the error as crucifixion began as punishment for crimes 1700 years after the Pharaoh had died. By your own words you admit this error does exist in the Koran.

Kuffar Bahgat you said: And as I said before you should take it of your list, otherwise you will be making a fool of yourself and be just nothing but an ignorant and arrogant enemy of Islam

Starjade says: The error by your own word does exist and these are errors that are found in the Koran and by other scholars not by myself. I think my own statements are so strong that only an idiot would consider me to be a fool. You’re the fool for following a proven false Prophet and believing that the Koran came from God on such flimsy claims. Especially as the Sura 4:82 clearly says: Do they not consider the Koran with care for if it came from any other than Allah then surely they would have found much discrepancy therein. Muslims are told to read and memorise the Koran so it would be clear to Muslims where such errors exist. They would notice those right away or so we would think. Clearly you do not. But then it is against your Islamic religion to question anything you read in the Koran despite the Sura 4:82 saying different. And anyone who is Blasphemous is the living Gods enemy and mine. But I do have the Power to convert them.

Kuffar Bahgat you said: If you do not take it of your list then I would like to remind you with this aya that truly describes you and any atheist for that matter who dares to attack the Quran without even speaking its language and without any proper knowledge, so here it is let me sura 3:7 you

“He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book. In it are verses basic or fundamental clear (in meaning); they are the foundation of the Book. Others are not entirely clear. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is not entirely clear. Seeking DISCORD, and searching for its interpretation, But no one knows its true meaning except Allah”
[ The Quran ; Sura No. 3 ; Al-Imran:7 ]

Starjade says: The error clearly does exist and by your own word you admit it. So I cannot take it from the list of many many errors found in the Koran. Only you Muslims can do that by proving the many many errors that I have mentioned do not exist in the Koran. The Sura 4:82 says that. You admit the Koran speaks of crucifixion, which only began as a punishment 1700 years after the Pharaoh had died. And this way of killing is added with further Islamic practises as seen from the views of a Muslim who believed that this was the way that such things were done. But it was not the practice of the Egyptians during the Time that the Pharaoh lived. So that error by your own word does exist in the Koran.

Tell me Kuffar Bahgat are you really that stupid. I already challenged Islam and proved for a fact that Muhammad is a fraud and a liar who was presumptuous to think he could speak in Gods name. And I have proven that the Koran was not sent by God as Muslims and mad Muhammad claims. And I used Islamic law and the Sura 4:82 to prove that to be a fact and to force Muslims to convert from Islam. Islamic law says they must. Blasphemy laws say that would be the wise also because the real Doomsday prophet is Judging you all and I do have the Power to stone you all to death and cause you all to become extinct.

I do not speak Arabic nor would I read any book of Blasphemy that stands against the word of the Living God. And yet look you for I have all you followers of Islam by the short and curlies. You are defenceless against my God given Revelations. So aren’t I a clever boy then.

Now you also speak of a book meaning of course the Golden Calf of Islam known as the Koran. And you claim now that this book you said came from God is not clear. Well the reason it is not clear is because the Muslims who wrote it are religious ignorant and a bit more than thick. I know the meaning of this Book. It is the Golden Calf of Islam. It is the Devils work misleading the chosen ones with its lies and deceptions. Too bad for all of you that the real Doomsday prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up arrived just as was Prophesied by the many signs in the heavens. And too bad for Islam that its followers goaded me into challenging Islam because when I did challenge Islam then Islam bit the dust. And you Muslims insulted me by shirking that challenge and this has caused my anger to blaze.

Did I not warn you to be wary of me? I already proved who I was up front and in the beginning and I stood my ground and watched as you all fell by the wayside. I used Islamic law and the Sura 4:82 to prove that The Koran was not sent by the Living God and that Muhammad is a liar and a fraud. And I did that right in front of the face of Islam and thousands of Muslims and not one of you could defend Islam against my God given Revelations. Now that is some Power. I was not voicing my opinions I was voicing facts and Islam is defenceless against my God given Revelations especially as I was using Islamic law and the Sura 4:82 to get my points across and prove to all Islamic followers that the Koran did not come from God and that Muhammad is a proven liar and a fraud. You know as well as I do if one error if found in the Koran then the Koran did not come from God. And here in the Sura 7:124 is just one of those many many errors that are found in the Koran. Once again Islam has bit the dust.

Now tell me now Kuffar Bahgat why not reply on these other errors found in the Koran and we shall see if those other errors do exist or not. You can be sure that they do exist and be sure I am demanding an account from the followers of Islam. So stop wasting my Time and go tell your Imam what has been said here and get him to come online and speak with the real Doomsday Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up. Warn that Imam to be wary of me, as I am more than capable of eating him for breakfast as you can plainly see. Do not put that Imam in a false sense of security. He would not thank you for that.

Now come on what about these errors. Do they exist in the Koran? Be a man and come online and give an admission or an explanation.

Moses

The first concerns the adoption of Moses by Pharaoh's wife (in sura 28:9). This story contradicts the Biblical Exodus 2:10 version, which states that it was Pharaoh's daughter who adopted Moses. It is important to note here that had Pharaoh's wife adopted Moses, he would have consequently been adopted by Pharaoh himself, making him heir to the throne. This fact alone makes the subsequent story of Moses's capture and exile rather incredulous.

Issa
The name for Jesus in the Qur'an is given as "Issa." Yet this is incorrect. Issa is the Arabic equivalent of Esau, the name for the twin brother of Jacob. The correct Arabic name for Jesus would be Yesuwa, similar to the Hebrew Yeshuwa, yet the supposedly "all-knowing" Qur'an has no mention of it.

And explain why Muhammad claims Isaiah wrote about him and yet Muhammad did not and could not fulfil this Prophecy made by Isaiah.

Isaiah Ch 11 v 11: And it shall come to pass in that day that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnants of his people which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands, of the Sea.

Isaiah Ch 11 v 12: And he shall set upon an ensign for the nations and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the Globe.

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The End of Times Doomsday Prophet.
The Lord King and King of Kings Starjade.
The Crown of the Living White Sphere of Kether.

Did you think it was safe to go into the water. ?     Post subject: The Pharaohs Cross. Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:29 pm

Part 2. Starjades reply.

Exodus: Ch 23 v1. Thou shalt not raise up a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteousness witness. Ch 23 v 2. Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest Judgement.

Now then Kuffar Ahmed Bahgat. I did reply to your post as you requested. And my reply was to that post. But now hear the word of the Lord King the Doomsday Prophet Starjade.

The errors named to exist in the Koran is this: Sura 7:124. We Find Pharaoh admonishing his sorcerers because they believed in the superiority of Moses’s Power over theirs. Pharaoh threatens them with cutting off their hands and feet on opposite sides, and then says they will all die on the cross. But there were no crosses in those days. Crucifixion was first practised by the Phoenicians and the Carthaginians and then borrowed extensively by the Romans close to the Time of Jesus, 1700 years after the Pharaoh.

Starjade says:
You scoffed Kuffar Bahgat these words. I Quote you: you claimed the following aya in the Quran is wrong: “Be sure I will cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides and I will crucify you all” [ The Quran ; Sura No. 7 ; Al-A’Raf:124 ] The Quran is describing the Egyptian Pharaoh talking to the magicians who dropped to ground and declaring their unconditional belief in Moses’s God after Moses beat the magic with the help of Allah the Egyptian Pharaoh is saying that he will cut the magicians hands and feet on opposite sides then He will crucify them. You also said: The Quran was very clear that the magicians “as stated in the second aya in my post” were crucified on TRUNKS of PALM-TREES not a CROSS.

Starjade says: The conversations continued with these explanations about this sura and the lack of logic written in that Sura 7:124. Kuffar Bahgat you said: and to give you some concrete evidences and not just my personal opinion, let me explain further that you are logically speaking wrong. firstly the Quran said “on opposite sides” this means you cut a left arm and a right leg, or a right arm and a left leg so how the hell they gonna nail a corpse with only one hand on a cross? This is a good question for you Starjade, but before you come up with your answer “which might be horizontally, I would like to continue mine.

Starjade says: If the Muslims mutilate a body and cannot crucify that body then it is odd that the Koran claims the Pharaoh killed criminals that way. But then Muslims did not exist during the Times of Moses or the Pharaoh so it is odd that you claim now that they did mutilate corpses as the Muslims do today. The Koran is giving a Muslim view of such a death and not considering that the Egyptians were not Muslims nor did they practise the mutilations, which we all see in the Islamic world of today. The Egyptians did not use crucifixion as depicted during the Times of the Romans and Muslims. Such punishment as pointed out began some 1700 years after the death of the Pharaoh.

Kuffar Bahgat you said: the only logic they gonna nail it on a pole, or on a tree, the corpse only has one hand mate, as the cross member is not required, right bro?

Starjade says: Then the death you speak of is not like the roman crucifixion whereas the Koran speak of crucifixion and yet who then said that crucifixion needed a cross member to hang a body. The point I think is that crucifixion began 1700 years after the death of the Pharaoh and no Muslims lived in those days and so this Mutilation theory of yours is not acceptable, as we are speaking of crucifixion not dismemberment. That dismemberment is a Muslim view of torture still practiced today. Whereas we are speaking of the crucifixion as if practised by those Egyptians as mentioned in the Koran. You admit this error exists by your own words.

Starjade says: Kuffar Bahgat you said: to continue on, the Quran actually mentioned this exactly in another Sura about Moses talking about the same incident, that seems you have missed in your quest to find your 20 odd undisputed mistakes, let’s have a look at:

[ The Quran ; Sura No. 20 ; Ta’Ha:71 ] “Be sure I will cut off your hands and feet on opposite sides, and I will have you crucified on trunks of palm-trees, so you shall know for certain, which of us can give the more lasting Punishment”

Starjade says: Yes by your own admission the Muslim way of torture and mutilation continues to be said by your own admission. But that is the Muslim way not the Egyptian way of the times of the Pharaoh. The Sura 7:124: Mentions crucifixion of the prisoners which was not practised during those days of the Pharaoh. That practice of Crucifixion began 1700 years after the death of the Pharaoh. So by your own admission this error does exist in the Koran and has been interpreted by a Muslim with a Muslim view, who did not know that crucifixion was not practised as a punishment during the days when the Pharaoh lived.

Starjade says: Kuffar Bahgat: First let me point out that I already named 21 errors found in the Koran. So I was not on any Quest to find 20 errors as you say as I already answered the challenge a Muslim made to me of finding errors in the Koran.

Starjades undisputed 21 errors found in the Koran.
http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/surahfoureighthytwo.html

Starjade continues. But no Muslim could dispute those errors. So another Muslim tried to escape the replying to Starjades 21 errors found in the Koran and he demanded errors that had Sura’s attached to them so he could check them out. I typed in errors in the Koran into my search engine and found loads of errors already named by other scholars who had examined the Koran in depth. The errors I then gave to that Muslim who requested them. He still could not answer a reply. But some other Muslims did try. And even though you are an offensive maggot of a man who is an insult to Islam. I do respect the fact that at least you did try to refute those errors that I have named although you only chose to attempt to reply to this Sura 7:124. Still you did give that a good go. And you scoffed and you laughed at that mention of the Sura 7: 142 and pointed out other errors by the illogical statement of crucifixion and the mutilations of the body in the cutting off of hands and feet. And on that issue I also agree it is inescapable that the statement is illogical just as you say only adding to that Error in the Koran. And you even added to that error with another error found in the Koran, which you also found and pointed out.

Kuffar Bahgat you said: to continue on, the Quran actually mentioned this exactly in another Sura about Moses talking about the same incident, that seems you have missed in your quest to find your 20 odd undisputed mistakes, let’s have a look at:

[ The Quran ; Sura No. 20 ; Ta’Ha:71 ] “Be sure I will cut off your hands and feet on opposite sides, and I will have you crucified on trunks of palm-trees, so you shall know for certain, which of us can give the more lasting Punishment”

Starjade says: See here you have pointed out yet another error in the Koran and I shall be explaining why so be patient, as my Revelations will blow your mind.

I have pointed out that another scholar mentioned this error 7:124 in the Koran pointing out that Sura 7:124. says: We Find Pharaoh admonishing his sorcerers because they believed in the superiority of Moses’s Power over theirs. Pharaoh threatens them with cutting off their hands and feet on opposite sides, and then says they will all die on the cross. But there were no crosses in those days. Crucifixion was first practised by the Phoenicians and the Carthaginians and then borrowed extensively by the Romans close to the Time of Jesus, 1700 years after the Pharaoh.

Starjade says: Now that was that scholar’s statement and conclusion and he quoted from your Koran. Which you admit. But that scholar only mentioned the crucifixion and the cross as his main argument that an error existed here in the Koran. I was quoting him and not making my own statement on this Sura 7: 124. Which will soon follow.

Starjade says: Now I did not know about this crucifixion thing being first practised 1700 years after the death of the Pharaoh. This was news to me also. Isn’t that a clever man to know such a thing eh ?.

But that is not the only error he could have mentioned with this Sura 7:124. You see this Pharaoh did not make any threats of crucifixion to his Magicians. This Pharaoh did not threaten to cut off the hands and feet of the Magicians. It only makes such statements in the Koran. It does not make such statements in the Old Testament.

It is well known that the writers of the Koran were trying to re write the Old Testament with their own claims and as you have pointed out such a death of crucifixion and dismemberment is carried out as an Islamic punishment. It is not Egyptian it is Islamic and was written into the Koran by religiously ignorant Muslims who added their own statements to that story of Moses and the Pharaoh. That is why they spoke of crucifixion and cutting off the hands and feet, which by your own admission is the Islamic way of killing and mutilating.

But it was not the way the Egyptians behaved. And in actual fact the Egyptian Pharaoh had total faith in his Magicians and the Old Testament proves that. This Pharaoh and Moses began their meeting in Exodus so let us start the story briefly told by me at the point where Moses and Aaron went before that Pharaoh. Exodus Ch 7 v 10 and Aaron cast down his Rod and it became a Serpent. Then in Verse 11 the Pharaoh bid his Magicians to cast down their rods and their rods became Serpents also. But the rod of Aaron ate up the other Serpents starting this mind-blowing story. Pick up a Bible and read Exodus the entire statements are not many pages long but it will verify to you that my words are true showing that serious error that does exist in the Koran is really the whole of the Sura 7:124.

Then came the waters of the Nile turning Red as Blood. Exodus 7:22 the Pharaohs Magicians did similar. So the Pharaohs heart was still hardened. Then came the frogs. Ch 8 v 6. In Ch 8 v 6 the Pharaohs Magicians also called up frogs and so the Pharaohs heart was still hardened. The came the Lice Ch 8 v 17 and the Pharaohs Magicians tried to bring on lice Ch 8: v 18 to show they also could do as Moses. But they found they could no reproduce the effect and said unto the Pharaoh Ch 8 v 19. This is the finger of God.

Now that is when the Magicians of the Pharaoh realised that were Powerless against the Power of Moses. Then followed the Plague of flies but no further mention of those Magicians and then grievous Murrain to the cattle of Egypt only. Then from the dust of the furnace there was unleashed upon Egypt, The boils and blains upon man and beast. Ch 9 v 11 and Magicians could not stand against Moses, as they were afflicted.

God threatened Pestilence and sent Hail and Thunder. The God sent Locust then God sent 3 days of weird Darkness, which fell, across the land of Egypt. Then the first born of Egypt of man and beast were killed about midnight. Then the Pharaoh let those people go.

Where they went to the Red Sea and God parted the Red sea in two and they walked across on the dry land to the wilderness of Shur and of Sin.

Meanwhile the Pharaoh began regrets and he then chased those people with all his men and chariots and they also went into the parting of the Red sea and the Lord thy God let the walls of the Red sea close and drowned them all including the Pharaoh.

At no Time in this Tale of that Exodus did the Pharaoh ever threaten his Magicians with death or with crucifixion or with the cutting off of hands and feet. That tale exists only in the Koran in the error of the Koran Sura 7: 124. Now do you see why the Sura 7:124 is an error in the Koran as it is not true as was documented by the Jews of that Time in the Old Testament. And if you doubt me then by all means do go get a Bible and read the Old Testament and you shall see that I speak the truth.

Now how long after the death of that Pharaoh did the Koran get written with that Sura 7:124 well here is that answer also. Muhammad’s followers were said to commit the text of the Koran to memory, and then as instructed by Muhammad, they were then put into writings, Muhammad died in 632 and after the battle of Al Yamamah in 633 Umar inb al Khattab, who later became the second Caliph, said to the first Caliph Abu Bakir, that because of the loss in that battle they were in danger of losing the Koran as it was mainly enshrined in their memories. Aby Bakr recognised the danger and entrusted the task of writing out the Koran to Zayd ibn Thabit, who was the chief scribe that Muhammad had frequently dictated to during his lifetime. A final authorised text was prepared and completed in 651 during the Time of Uthman the third Caliph and this has remained the text of the Koran in use ever since. Still Muslims however claim that the contents of the Koran came from God through this Angel Gabriel.

Starjade says: well once again that fabricated Angel Gabriel is proven to have made a mistake. Just as Zayd ibn Thabit, has when he tried to re write the Old Testament with his own Islamic views. Now we see why it mentions Crucifixion and mutilations of cutting off the hands and feet, which are the Islamic way. And that is the explanation why that text exists in the Koran and why it mentions Crucifixion and dismemberment.

You see Kuffar Bahmyed Bahgat if I look for errors in the Koran my statements are far more exacting and more damaging. And to me this Pharaohs cross thing was a tame point to make. Some other Scholar found that one out and mentioned it without realising the whole Sura 7:124 was in error in its entire statement. Clearly he had his head too far in the Koran and forgot to check the source of that other information which is the Old Testament itself.

Now I was not even going to bother mentioning such a thing as to me it was not of any importance. But you Kuffar Bahgat  demanded that I reply and so on both occasions I have. Be more wary next Time. I keep pointing out that I am the very Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up. To warn you to be careful what you say. Now perhaps you are beginning to see how easily I would eat your Imam’as for breakfast.

So the Pharaoh did not threaten his Magicians at all and that is just an Islamic claim. So by your own admission there is error in the Koran. And the Doomsday Prophet Starjade has exposed it as a lie. The Sura 4:82 is clear and says if one error is found in the Koran then that is proof that the Koran did not come from God. That means then as this error is proven to exist in the Koran, then the word of Muhammad is proven to be untrue and his claims that the words that now make up the Koran came from an angel called Gabriel is also proven to be untrue and Muhammad is proven to be a fraud and his word is not trustworthy and Muhammad has been proven to be a Liar and a fraud who was presumptuous to think he could speak in Gods name.

And so sayeth the Lord King and Doomsday Prophet Starjade.

Starjade takes a Bow.
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The End of Times Doomsday Prophet.
The Lord King and King of Kings Starjade.

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