ELHAM
AL_BASSAM SURVEY OF
DRAMA 213
Oedipus Rex / Oedipus the King
Full
Summary
The play opens in front of
the Theban palace. Oedipus, the king of Thebes, asks a passing priest why he
and his followers are lamenting and praying. The priest replies that they pray
to the gods to end the plague that has beset Thebes. This plague has wasted the
city's crops and pastures and rendered all Theban women sterile. The priest
begs for Oedipus's help. Oedipus tells the priest that he feels the city's
pain, and that he has sent his brother-in-law, Creon, to the Pythian oracle of
Apollo to ask for help.
Creon appears, bearing good
news. The oracle told him that the plague on Thebes was caused by the murder of
Laius, the previous king of Thebes. The murderer was born in Thebes and still
lives there, and if they can find him and banish him, the plague will be
lifted. Oedipus asks Creon about the details of Laius's death. Creon tells him
that Laius was killed as he left Thebes on a pilgrimage. There was only one surviving
eyewitness, a man who said that the king was killed by a band of robbers.
Oedipus asks why the matter was not fully investigated, and Creon tells him
that the city's problems with the Sphinx demanded attention at that point.
Oedipus swears that he will solve this mystery, not merely for Laius's sake,
but for his own, since Laius's killer might attack him next. He summons all the
people of Thebes.
The Chorus of Theban elders
appears, expressing a sense of foreboding about what Oedipus might find. The
Chorus describes again the plague that has stricken the city and calls on the
gods to help the city. Oedipus enters from the palace and asks the people of
Thebes to help him find Laius's killer; if any of them has any information that
would help him, he orders them to come forward. There is silence. He declares
that if the killer is among them and will give himself up, his punishment will
merely be banishment. Still the people are silent. Oedipus tells them that any
information that could help will be rewarded. Still silence, and Oedipus
declares that if any men are found to be hiding the truth from him, they too
will be banished. Nor does Oedipus exempt himself from the punishment he has
just declared; if he unknowingly harbors the killer, he will leave Thebes
himself. The Chorus finally speaks up, suggesting that Oedipus consult the man
closest to Apollo: Teiresias the blind prophet. Oedipus agrees with their
suggestion and reveals that he has already sent for Teiresias upon Creon's
advice.
Teiresias enters, led by an
attendant. Oedipus informs him of the oracle's statements and begs him to help
find the killer. Teiresias states that he never should have come, and asks to
leave. Oedipus asks him again, telling him that he is an enemy to Thebes if he
refuses to help. Again Teiresias refuses to answer Oedipus, and Oedipus gets
angry. Teiresias counsels him to look within himself before he blames others.
Finally Oedipus angrily declares that Teiresias's silence implicates him in
Laius's murder. At this Teiresias , fed up, tells Oedipus what he knows:
"You are the cursed polluter of this land" (35). His words enrage
Oedipus, who dares him to repeat them. Teiresias obliges, saying "the
killer you are seeking is yourself" (36). Again Oedipus goads him, and he
elaborates: "you are living / In sinful union with the one you love, /
Living in ignorance of your own undoing" (36). Full of fury, Oedipus now
calls Teiresias a "shameless and brainless, sightless, senseless sot"
and again accuses him of conspiring with Creon (36). Again Teiresias vows that
the enemy Oedipus seeks is himself. Continuing to mock Teiresias, Oedipus now
charges him with fraud, using the Sphinx's riddle as proof. If Teiresias is a
seer, then he should have been able to solve the riddle. But instead Oedipus
was the only one who was smart enough to do so. So much for Teiresias's gifts!
Now the Chorus tries to step in and calm Oedipus down. Teiresias tries one last
time to show him the truth, saying "have you eyes / And do not see your
own damnation? Eyes, / And cannot see what company you keep? / Whose son you
are? I tell you, you have sinned -- / And do not know it against your own on
earth / And in the grave" (37). He predicts the future: Oedipus will be
more hated and more scorned than any other man. Oedipus orders him to leave. As
he goes, Teiresias repeats his warnings and his predictions, saying "he
that came seeing, blind shall he go; / Rich now, then a beggar; stick-in-hand,
groping his way / To a land of exile; brother, as it shall be shown, / And
father at once, to the children he cherishes; son, / And husband, to the woman
who bore him; father-killer, / And father-supplanter" (38). Oedipus goes
back into his house.
The Chorus reflects on what
Teiresias said, but does not understand it, saying that it chooses to think
that Oedipus is innocent until proven guilty because he has done such good for
Thebes. Creon enters, asking the Chorus if what he heard is true: if Oedipus
has actually accused him of treason. The Chorus tries to calm him, telling him
that Oedipus was overwrought when he said these things. Oedipus comes out and
repeats his accusations against Creon, and the two argue heatedly. Creon tries
to reason with him, asking him why he would choose to give up a stable and
happy life with a third of Oedipus's estate for an uneasy rule. He tells
Oedipus to test him by asking the Pythian oracle if his message was true, and
if Creon comes out guilty, Oedipus can sentence him to death. Oedipus continues
to argue with him, and eventually Creon charges him with ruling unjustly.
Jocasta enters, and the men
tell her the gist of their argument. She begs Oedipus to believe Creon and to
be merciful. The Chorus joins in her pleas, and reluctantly Oedipus lets Creon
go. Jocasta questions Oedipus, and he reveals Teiresias's prophecies. Jocasta
comforts him by telling him that no man can see the future, and she has proof.
She relates the story of the prophecy an oracle once made about Laius: that he
would be killed by his own son. But that never happened; instead Laius was
killed by robbers at a place where three roads met. And as for the son, Jocasta
and Laius let their infant be exposed on a hillside with a pin through his
ankles to prevent the prophecy from coming true. If Laius's prophecy didn't
come true, she says, then why should Oedipus's? But her mention of the meeting
of three roads troubles Oedipus, bringing back memories of a murder he
committed long ago at a similar place. He asks Jocasta what Laius looked like,
and her description matches his memory. Oedipus now begins to suspect that
Teiresias's words were true. He asks Jocasta how many men were with Laius, and
she tells him there were five the same number of men that were with the man
Oedipus killed. He asks about the eyewitness, and Jocasta tells him that the
man ran away to the country when he found that Oedipus had become king of
Thebes.
Oedipus summons this
eyewitness, and while they wait for him to arrive, he tells Jocasta more about
his youth. His parents were from Corinth, Polybus and Meropé. One day, a
drunken man told Oedipus that he was not his father's son. Disturbed, Oedipus
asked his parents if this was true, and they denied it. But it still troubled
Oedipus, so he secretly went to the oracle at Pytho and asked it. But the oracle
told him something even more frightening: that one day he would kill his father
and marry his mother. The prediction so shocked Oedipus that he left and never
returned to Corinth, afraid that if he did so he would fulfill the oracle's
prophesies. In his wanderings, Oedipus came to a crossroads where three roads
met, and here he was accosted by a haughty man. Oedipus ended up killing this
man. If this man turns out to have been Laius, then Oedipus will be banished
from Thebes as punishment, but also from Corinth, to which he can never return
for fear of killing his father and marrying his mother. He can only hope that
the eyewitness confirms that robbers killed Laius. Jocasta comforts Oedipus
again by saying that even if he did kill Laius, the oracle's prophesy for Laius
still would not be true, since the son that should have killed him is dead.
They return to the house.
Alone, the Chorus muses on
what it has learned and speaks about the evils of pride. Pride, it claims, can
only bring doom and punishment. Jocasta enters from the house, on her way to
visit the holy temples and pray. A messenger from Corinth enters, with the news
that Oedipus's father Polybus is dead. The Corinthians would like to make
Oedipus king of both Corinth and Thebes. Overjoyed, Jocasta sends for Oedipus.
When he hears the news, he rejoices in the falseness of prophecy he can't
kill his father now. But he is still afraid of the other half of the prophecy
that he will marry Meropé. But the messenger assures him that he needn't worry about
marrying her, because Polybus and Meropé are not really his parents. He relates
the story of how Oedipus came to be their son. A long time ago, the messenger
says, he was living as a shepherd on the mountain, and a stranger gave him an
infant that he had rescued from death; the infant's ankles were riveted (at
this Oedipus confirms that he has had a limp since birth). The messenger gave
this baby to Polybus and Meropé. Oedipus inquires about the identity of the man
who gave the baby to the messenger, and the messenger tells him that the
stranger was one of Laius's servants. Is he alive? Oedipus wants to know. The
messenger replies that Jocasta should know who he is. Oedipus turns to Jocasta,
who is white with fear. She begs him not to pursue this matter any more, to
forget it. But Oedipus is determined to solve this mystery, and sends for the
man who gave the baby to the messenger. Jocasta warns him for his own good to
drop this line of questioning and runs into the house.
Nobody but Jocasta has
figured out the puzzle yet, and the Chorus reflects that something bad seems
about to happen. Oedipus states that he wants to learn the entire truth, no
matter how foul it is; he suspects that Jocasta is upset about his seemingly
low birth. He declares that he is Fortune's child, and that he will know who he
really is. Again the Chorus expresses foreboding. A shepherd approaches; this
is the man who gave the baby to the messenger. Oedipus questions him, but he is
reluctant to answer. The messenger tells him that Oedipus is that same baby,
and the shepherd reacts with fear and begs the messenger to hold his tongue.
Oedipus threatens him with physical violence, and finally the man confesses
that the baby was a child of Laius's house. Oedipus asks if it was a slave's
child or Laius's child, and the shepherd tells him that it was Laius's child,
that Jocasta gave him to expose on the hillside because of some prophesy. What
prophesy? Oedipus asks. That he would kill his father, the shepherd replies.
The shepherd says the he didn't have the heart to kill the infant, so he took
it to another country instead. Aghast, Oedipus finally sees the truth and runs
screaming into the house. The messenger and the shepherd leave.
The Chorus reflects on the
fleeting nature of happiness and the sin of pride. Nobody can escape fate. An
attendant enters from the palace with horrifying news. When Jocasta went into
the palace, she went straight to her bedroom and slammed the door, tearing her
hair with her fingers. There she cried out to Laius and wailed the tragedy of
her son/husband. Oedipus entered the palace, crying for a sword and searching
for his wife. No servant answered, but he seemed to know instinctively where
she was. He slammed his body against her bedroom doors and broke them open.
Stumbling in, he found that Jocasta had hanged herself. Moaning horribly, he
untied her and laid her on the ground. Then he took the gold brooches with
which she had fastened her gown, and, thrusting his arms out at full length, he
gouged his eyes out. Again and again he pierced he eyes until bloody tears
streamed down his cheeks. Now he is shouting for someone to open the castle
doors and show all of Thebes the man who killed Laius. He swears he will flee
this country to try to rid his house of his curse.
The doors to the palace
open, and Oedipus stumbles out. The Chorus cries out in agony at the sight and
hides its own eyes. Oedipus cries out to the city in a voice that hardly seems
his own. The Chorus wails that Oedipus is unspeakable and too terrible for eyes
to see, that he has been punished in both body and soul. Oedipus calls for
someone to be his guide. The Chorus asks him why he injured himself, and he
replies that he doesn't want eyes when all he can see is ugliness. He pleads
with the Chorus to lead him out of Thebes and curses the shepherd who saved his
life when he was a baby. The Chorus tells him that surely death would have been
better than blindness, and Oedipus replies by asking how he could have met his
parents in the underworld with seeing eyes. How could he have looked upon
children whom he had begotten in sin? In fact, he says, he wishes he could dam
up his ears as well. He begs the Chorus to hide him away from human sight.
Creon enters, asking the
Chorus to remember their love for the gods, and Oedipus begs him to cast him
away from Thebes. Creon replies that he must wait for instructions from Apollo.
Oedipus argues that Apollo's instructions were clear: the unclean man must
leave Thebes. Oedipus also asks Creon to bury Jocasta properly and to take care
of his daughters. But before he goes, he begs, can he see these daughters once
more? His daughters Antigone and Ismene are led in, and Oedipus caresses them
with hands that are both father's and brother's. He weeps for the fact that they
will never be able to find husbands with this tragic family history. With
Creon's promise that he will send him away from Thebes upon Apollo's word,
Oedipus and his family enter the palace again, Alone on the stage, the Chorus
asks the audience to remember the story of Oedipus, the greatest of men; he
alone could solve difficult riddles and was envied my his fellows for his
prosperity. And now the greatest of misfortunes has befallen him. The Chorus
warns the audience that mortal men must always look to their endings, and not
suppose that they are happy until they die happy.
Full
Analysis
In his Poetics, Aristotle
outlined the ingredients necessary for a good tragedy, and he based his formula
on what he considered to be the perfect tragedy, Sophocles's Oedipus the King.
According to Aristotle, a tragedy must be an imitation of life in the form of a
serious story that is complete in itself; in other words, the story must be
realistic and narrow in focus. A good tragedy will evoke pity and fear in its
viewers, causing the viewers to experience a feeling of catharsis. Catharsis,
in Greek, means "purgation" or "purification"; running
through the gamut of these strong emotions will leave viewers feeling elated,
in the same way we often claim that "a good cry" will make one feel
better.
Aristotle also outlined the
characteristics of a good tragic hero. He must be "better than we
are," a man who is superior to the average man in some way. In Oedipus's
case, he is superior not only because of social standing, but also because he
is smart he is the only person who could solve the Sphinx's riddle. At the
same time, a tragic hero must evoke both pity and fear, and Aristotle claims
that the best way to do this is if he is imperfect. A character with a mixture
of good and evil is more compelling that a character who is merely good. And
Oedipus is definitely not perfect; although a clever man, he is blind to the
truth and refuses to believe Teiresias's warnings. Although he is a good
father, he unwittingly fathered children in incest. A tragic hero suffers
because of his hamartia, a Greek word that is often translated as "tragic
flaw" but really means "error in judgement." Often this flaw or
error has to do with fate a character tempts fate, thinks he can change fate
or doesn't realize what fate has in store for him. In Oedipus the King, fate is
an idea that surfaces again and again. Whether or not Oedipus has a
"tragic flaw" is a matter that will be discussed later. The focus on
fate reveals another aspect of a tragedy as outlined by Aristotle: dramatic
irony. Good tragedies are filled with irony. The audience knows the outcome of
the story already, but the hero does not, making his actions seem ignorant or
inappropriate in the face of what is to come. Whenever a character attempts to
change fate, this is ironic to an audience who knows that the tragic outcome of
the story cannot be avoided.
Dramatic irony plays an
important part in Oedipus the King. Its story revolves around two different
attempts to change the course of fate: Jocasta and Laius's killing of Oedipus
at birth and Oedipus's flight from Corinth later on. In both cases, an oracle's
prophecy comes true regardless of the characters' actions. Jocasta kills her
son only to find him restored to life and married to her. Oedipus leaves
Corinth only to find that in so doing he has found his real parents and carried
out the oracle's words. Both Oedipus and Jocasta prematurely exult over the
failure of oracles, only to find that the oracles were right after all. Each time
a character tries to avert the future predicted by the oracles, the audience
knows their attempt is futile, creating the sense of irony that permeates the
play.
Even the manner in which
Oedipus and Jocasta express their disbelief in oracles is ironic. In an attempt
to comfort Oedipus, Jocasta tells him that oracles are powerless; yet at the
beginning of the very next scene we see her praying to the same gods whose
powers she has just mocked (45-50). Oedipus rejoices over Polybus's death as a
sign that oracles are fallible, yet he will not return to Corinth for fear that
the oracle's statements concerning Meropé could still come true (52).
Regardless of what they say, both Jocasta and Oedipus continue to suspect that
the oracles could be right, that gods can predict and affect the future and
of course the audience knows they can.
If Oedipus discounts the
power of oracles, he values the power of truth. Instead of relying on the gods,
Oedipus counts on his own ability to root out the truth; after all, he is a
riddle-solver. The contrast between trust in the gods' oracles and trust in
intelligence plays out in this story like the contrast between religion and
science in nineteenth-century novels. But the irony is, of course, that the
oracles and Oedipus's scientific method both lead to the same outcome.
Oedipus's search for truth reveals just that, and the truth revealed fulfills
the oracles' prophesies. Ironically, it is Oedipus's rejection of the oracles
that uncovers their power; he relentlessly pursues truth instead of trusting in
the gods, and his detective work finally reveals the fruition of the oracles'
words. As Jocasta says, if he could just have left well enough alone, he would
never have discovered the horrible workings of fate (55).
In his search for the
truth, Oedipus shows himself to be a thinker, a man good at unraveling
mysteries. This is the same characteristic that brought him to Thebes; he was
the only man capable of solving the Sphinx's riddle. His intelligence is what
makes him great, yet it is also what makes him tragic; his problem-solver's
mind leads him on as he works through the mystery of his birth. In the Oedipus
myth, marriage to Jocasta was the prize for ridding Thebes of the Sphinx. Thus
Oedipus's intelligence, a trait that brings Oedipus closer to the gods, is what
causes him to commit the most heinous of all possible sins. In killing the
Sphinx, Oedipus is the city's savior, but in killing Laius (and marrying
Jocasta), he is its scourge, the cause of the blight that has struck the city
at the play's opening.
The Sphinx's riddle echoes
throughout the play, even though Sophocles never mentions the actual question
she asked. Audiences would have known the Sphinx's words: "what is it that
goes on four feet in the morning, two feet at midday, and three feet in the
evening?" Oedipus's answer, of course, was "a man." And in the
course of the play, Oedipus himself proves to be that same man, an embodiment
of the Sphinx's riddle. There is much talk of Oedipus's birth and his exposure
as an infant here is the baby of which the Sphinx speaks, crawling on four
feet (even though two of Oedipus's are pinioned). Oedipus throughout most of
the play is the adult man, standing on his own two feet instead of relying on
others, even gods. And at the end of the play, Oedipus will leave Thebes an old
blind man, using a cane. In fact, Oedipus's name means "swollen foot"
because of the pins through his ankles as a baby; thus even as a baby and a
young man he has a limp and uses a cane: a prefiguring of the
"three-legged" old man he will become. Oedipus is more that merely
the solver of the Sphinx's riddle, he himself is the answer.
Perhaps the best example of
dramatic irony in this play, however, is the frequent use of references to
eyes, sight, light, and perception throughout. When Oedipus refuses to believe
him, Teiresias cries, "have you eyes, / And do not see your own damnation?
Eyes, / And cannot see what company you keep?" (37). Mentioned twice in
the same breath, the word "eyes" stands out in this sentence.
Teiresias knows that Oedipus will blind himself; later in this same speech he
says as much: "those now clear-seeing eyes / Shall then be darkened"
(37). The irony is that sight here means two different things. Oedipus is
blessed with the gift of perception; he was the only man who could
"see" the answer to the Sphinx's riddle. Yet he cannot see what is
right before his eyes. He is blind to the truth, for all he seeks it.
Teiresias's presence in the play, then, is doubly important. As a blind old
man, he foreshadows Oedipus's own future, and the more Oedipus mocks his
blindness, the more ironic he sounds to the audience. Teiresias is a man who
understands the truth without the use of his sight; Oedipus is the opposite, a
sighted man who is blind to the truth right before him. Soon Oedipus will
switch roles with Teiresias, becoming a man who sees the truth and loses his
sense of sight.
Teiresias is not the only
character who uses eyes and sight as a metaphor. When Creon appears after
learning of Oedipus's accusation of him, he says "said with unflinching
eye was it?" (40). This is a strange thing to say; one would expect a bold
statement to be made with "unhalting voice," not "unflinching
eye." Yet it continues the theme of eyes and sight; Oedipus makes
accusations while boldly staring Creon down, yet later when he knows the truth,
he will not be able to look at Creon again. He will be ashamed to look any who
love him in the eyes, one reason, according to Oedipus, that he blinds himself:
"how could I have met my father beyond the grave / With seeing eyes; or my
unhappy mother?" (63). Oedipus himself makes extensive use of eyes and
sight as a metaphor. When he approaches Creon a few lines later, he says
"did you suppose I wanted eyes to see / The plot preparing, wits to
counter it?" (40). Ironically, Oedipus does in fact lack the capacity to
see what is happening, and the more he uses his wit to untangle the mystery,
the more blind he becomes.
The Chorus's reflections
after Oedipus discovers the truth carry the sight theme to another level.
"Show me the man," the Chorus says, "whose happiness was
anything more than illusion / Followed by disillusion . . . . Time sees all;
and now he has found you, when you least expected it; / Has found you and
judged that marriage mockery, bridegroom-son! / This is your elegy: / I wish I
had never seen you, offspring of Laius, / Yesterday my morning of light, now my
night of endless darkness!" (59). Here are a number of binaries associated
with the idea of sight and blindness: illusion and disillusion, light and dark,
morning and night. Time casts its searchlight at random, and when it does, it
uncovers horrible things. The happiness of the "morning of light" is
an illusion; the reality is the "night of endless darkness." And the
Chorus wishes it had never seen Oedipus. Not only has he polluted his own sight
and his own body by marrying his mother and killing his father, he is a
pollutant of others' sights by his very existence. When Oedipus enters,
blinded, the Chorus shouts "I dare not see, I am hiding / My eyes, I
cannot bear / What most I long to see . . . . Unspeakable to mortal ear, / Too
terrible for eyes to see" (62). Oedipus has become the very blight he
wishes to remove from Thebes, a monster more terrible than the Sphinx, a sight
more horrible than the wasted farmlands and childless Theban women.
What are we to make of the
ironies and the structure of this play? There are two ways to read the story of
Oedipus. One is to say that he is a puppet of fate, incapable of doing anything
to change the destiny that fate has in store for him. Another is to say that
the events of the play are his fault, that he possesses the "flaw"
that sets these events into action.
As a puppet of fate,
Oedipus cannot affect the future that the oracle has predicted for him. This
does in fact seem to be an important message of the story; no matter what
Jocasta says about the unreliability of oracles, their predictions all come
true. In an attempt to change fate, both Jocasta and Oedipus changed the
structure of their families, moving as far away as possible from the relatives
that threaten to ruin them. Yet in so doing, they set the course of the story
into action. You cannot escape fate, no matter what you do. Your dead son will
come back to kill his father. The safe harbor you have found from your fated
parents turns out to be the very arena in which you will kill and marry them.
As the Chorus says, "Time sees all;" fate and the course of time are
more powerful than anything a human being can do. Oedipus's tragic end is not
his fault; he is merely a pawn in the celestial workings of fate.
At the same time, Oedipus
seems like more than merely a passive player lost in the sweep of time. He
seems to make important mistakes or errors in judgement (hamartia) that set the
events of the story into action. His pride, blindness, and foolishness all play
a part in the tragedy that befalls him. Oedipus's pride sets it all off; when a
drunken man tells him that he is a bastard, his pride is so wounded that he
will not let the subject rest, eventually going to the oracle of Apollo to ask
it the truth. The oracle's words are the reason why he leaves Corinth, and in
leaving Corinth and traveling to Thebes, he fulfills the oracle's prophecy. A
less proud man may not have needed to visit the oracle, giving him no reason to
leave Corinth in the first place. In the immediate events of the play,
Oedipus's pride continues to be a flaw that leads to the story's tragic ending.
He is too proud to consider the words of the prophet Teiresias, choosing,
instead to rely on his own sleuthing powers. Teiresias warns him not to pry
into these matters, but pride in his intelligence leads Oedipus to continue his
search. He values truth attained through scientific enquiry over words and
warnings from the gods; this is the result of his overweening pride. Another
word for pride that causes one to disregard the gods is the Greek word hubris.
Oedipus is also foolish and
blind. Foolishly he leaves his home in Corinth without further investigating
the oracle's words; after all, he goes to the oracle to ask if he is his
father's son, then leaves without an answer to this question. Finding out who
his true father is seems important for someone who has just been told he will
kill his father. Nor is Oedipus particularly intelligent about the way he
conducts himself. Even though he did not know that Laius and Jocasta were his
parents, he still does kill a man old enough to be his father and marry a woman
old enough to be his mother. One would think that a man with as disturbing a
prophesy over his head as Oedipus would be very careful about who he married or
killed. Blindly he pursues the truth when others warn him not to; although he
has already fulfilled the prophesy, he does not know it, and if he left well
enough alone, he could continue to live in blissful ignorance. But instead he
stubbornly and foolishly rummages through his past until he discovers the awful
truth. In this way, Jocasta's death and his blindness are his own fault.
Regardless of the way you read the play, Oedipus the King is a powerful work of drama. Collapsing the events of the play into the moments before and after Oedipus's realization, Sophocles catches and heightens the drama. Using dramatic irony to involve the audience, the characters come alive in all their flawed glory. The play achieves that catharsis of which Aristotle speaks by showing the audience a man not unlike themselves, a man who is great but not perfect, who is a good father, husband, and son, and yet who unwillingly destroys parents, wife and children. Oedipus is human, regardless of his pride, his intelligence, or his stubbornness, and we recognize this in his agonizing reaction to his sin. Watching this, the audience is certainly moved to both pity and fear: pity for this broken man, and fear that his tragedy could be our own.
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