Reader Response & Discussio

Session Five

 

REFERENCE

 Daniels, “Expository Text in Literature Circles”  VM9:4

 

SUMMARY

This article is both readable and informative due to Daniels’ engaging style of writing.  After answering the central question of whether expository text can be used in literature circles with a resounding “YES!”, he offers caution regarding the type of text that is used.  He then concludes with some guidance on how to manage the reading circles.

 

For successful literature circles built on expository text, Daniels recommends authentic non-fiction text that is about:

-        content that is important or engaging

-        people we can care about

-        a narrative structure or chronological line

-        places we can visualize

-         danger, conflicts, risks, or choices

-         value, moral, ethical, or political dimensions

-          some ideas that reasonable people can debate, dispute, or disagree about.

He offers a number of book titles and series that meet this criteria and which he has used with middle school students..  He  adds that the attentive teacher can build an article file of promising text for the classroom by scouring magazines and newspapers.

 

He also emphasizes that textbook writing does not make good literature circle reading materials because it does not involve the elements marking “discussable” text listed above.  Textbook writing typically has “simple patterns of organization, eschews story elements, and contains maximally packed content loads”.  Daniels recommends that textbooks be reserved for limited use as references.

 

Management of literature circles using expository text are parallel to that used for discussion groups using fiction reading material.  Students do need some training in how to read for the purpose of discussing questions, connections, feelings, judgments, words and phrases from the reading.  They also need some training in how to use a discussion log to record their group responses.  Daniels offers two specific ideas of how to help students along the road toward fruitful discussion.  One is the use of sticky-notes.  Each child has a supply which they can use to mark their text with notes in preparation for discussion, and during discussion these notes can be collected in the log.  He also describes a “jigsaw groups” approach to text where student groups are each given a different text on a single subject, or a different section of a single longer text.  Class discussion involves putting the “pieces” together for meaning and interpretation.  Daniels offers a recording sheet to help students keep a record of their part of the text in preparation for the larger discussion. 

 

CONNECTION

I’ve had a lot of contact with Australian and New Zealand teachers who a.) marvel at the array of pre-digested teaching materials available to American teachers with a slightly jealous eye and, b.) make the same conclusion that Daniels does:  these books are for research, not for reading.  Our teaching friends down under do spend their free time scouring the newspapers and magazines for relevant reading material to bring into the classroom as Daniels suggests.  Plus, they have library staff (sometimes parent volunteers) whose sole focus is do even more scouring and cataloguing of the material.  In the international school where I taught there was a filing cabinet full of carefully clipped articles that were in folders according to topics of interest.  It looked like an incredible amount of work to me, especially living in a country where access to English reading material is difficult.  But I was assured that this was normal practice in Australia and New Zealand.  It seemed like a nice resource, but I didn’t really know what to do with so many little pieces of paper.  It also needed to be constantly updated with new material … an on-going management issue.

 

DISCUSSION

In a sub point, Daniels talks about the classic descriptions of expository text structure (cause/effect, pro/con, problem/solution, description/list, order/sequence/procedure, etc.) that teachers teach and standardized tests test.  He notes that such text is really only found on standardized reading tests and in textbooks.  He also notes that 70-80% of the reading on standardized reading tests is this type of text.

 

I was so glad for someone to finally notice that what we are being asked to teach may not be found in real life.  This has been a dilemma for me as I’ve tried to figure out how to teach these text structures in a way that is meaningful.  I haven’t the time to search for the “ideal” text as an example.  Daniels points out that authentic text is a combination of many different text structures and styles– so it still seems relevant to teach them directly …. but what should be the context?

 

Also, there is the issue of how we should be using textbooks. Daniels strongly suggests that “we need to change not just how we teach reading, but what we ask kids to read. We need to use textbooks and reference books more appropriately (and sparingly), and instead infuse the curriculum with authentic, real-world nonfiction-the kind of informational, expository, persuasive texts that adults really read”.  OK.  But what of the very real need to be able to read textbooks when one enters college?  (case in point, I have a son who is currently struggling with this very issue)  Granted that textbook reading is not a skill needed for all of life, but it certainly is a skill needed at certain points of life (at least until our whole education system changes).  What do you think?  Is textbook reading a necessary skill?  Should we encourage its development?  Will students be able to do well on high stakes tests without this skill?  Daniels offers no promises.  Should we be concerned?

 

EXTENSION

Interestingly, I have actually seen a New Zealand language arts textbook that was built around authentic text.  Each chapter of the text included several samples of one text structure and exercises that led the students through examination of the text.  However, it was not a widely adapted textbook and has gone out of print. 

 

The internet provides a great array of real-life, engaging, informational text.  Try the following sites for some good reading aimed at kids:

http://doctorbrain.tripod.com/kids.html

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/Home.html

CNN Student News:  http://fyi.cnn.com/fyi/

NASAexplores:  http://www.nasaexplores.com/

 

 

Date: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:47 am

Author: Gentry, Pamela <[email protected]>

Subject: DANIELS: Expository Text in Lit Circles

 


 

REFERENCE
Daniels, “Expository Text in Literature Circles” VM9:4

SUMMARY
This article is both readable and informative due to Daniels’ engaging style of writing. After answering the central question of whether expository text can be used in literature circles with a resounding “YES!”, he offers caution regarding the type of text that is used. He then concludes with some guidance on how to manage the reading circles.

For successful literature circles built on expository text, Daniels recommends authentic non-fiction text that is about:
-        content that is important or engaging
-        people we can care about
-        a narrative structure or chronological line
-        places we can visualize
-         danger, conflicts, risks, or choices
-         value, moral, ethical, or political dimensions
-         some ideas that reasonable people can debate, dispute, or disagree about.

He offers a number of book titles and series that meet this criteria and which he has used with middle school students.. He adds that the attentive teacher can build an article file of promising text for the classroom by scouring magazines and newspapers.

He also emphasizes that textbook writing does not make good literature circle reading materials because it does not involve the elements marking “discussable” text listed above. Textbook writing typically has “simple patterns of organization, eschews story elements, and contains maximally packed content loads”. Daniels recommends that textbooks be reserved for limited use as references.

Management of literature circles using expository text are parallel to that used for discussion groups using fiction reading material. Students do need some training in how to read for the purpose of discussing questions, connections, feelings, judgments, words and phrases from the reading. They also need some training in how to use a discussion log to record their group responses. Daniels offers two specific ideas of how to help students along the road toward fruitful discussion.

One is the use of sticky-notes. Each child has a supply which they can use to mark their text with notes in preparation for discussion, and during discussion these notes can be collected in the log.

He also describes a “jigsaw groups” approach to text where student groups are each given a different text on a single subject, or a different section of a single longer text. Class discussion involves putting the “pieces” together for meaning and interpretation. Daniels offers a recording sheet to help students keep a record of their part of the text in preparation for the larger discussion.

CONNECTION
I’ve had a lot of contact with Australian and New Zealand teachers who a.) marvel at the array of pre-digested teaching materials available to American teachers with a slightly jealous eye and, b.) make the same conclusion that Daniels does: these books are for research, not for reading. Our teaching friends down under do spend their free time scouring the newspapers and magazines for relevant reading material to bring into the classroom as Daniels suggests. Plus, they have library staff (sometimes parent volunteers) whose sole focus is do even more scouring and cataloguing of the material. In the international school where I taught there was a filing cabinet full of carefully clipped articles that were in folders according to topics of interest. It looked like an incredible amount of work to me, especially living in a country where access to English reading material is difficult. But I was assured that this was normal practice in Australia and New Zealand. It seemed like a nice resource, but I didn’t really know what to do with so many little pieces of paper. It also needed to be constantly updated with new material … an on-going management issue.

DISCUSSION
In a sub point, Daniels talks about the classic descriptions of expository text structure (cause/effect, pro/con, problem/solution, description/list, order/sequence/procedure, etc.) that teachers teach and standardized tests test. He notes that such text is really only found on standardized reading tests and in textbooks. He also notes that 70-80% of the reading on standardized reading tests is this type of text.

I was so glad for someone to finally notice that what we are being asked to teach may not be found in real life. This has been a dilemma for me as I’ve tried to figure out how to teach these text structures in a way that is meaningful. I haven’t the time to search for the “ideal” text as an example. Daniels points out that authentic text is a combination of many different text structures and styles– so it still seems relevant to teach them directly …. but what should be the context?

Also, there is the issue of how we should be using textbooks. Daniels strongly suggests that “we need to change not just how we teach reading, but what we ask kids to read. We need to use textbooks and reference books more appropriately (and sparingly), and instead infuse the curriculum with authentic, real-world nonfiction-the kind of informational, expository, persuasive texts that adults really read”. OK. But what of the very real need to be able to read textbooks when one enters college? (case in point, I have a son who is currently struggling with this very issue) Granted that textbook reading is not a skill needed for all of life, but it certainly is a skill needed at certain points of life (at least until our whole education system changes). What do you think? Is textbook reading a necessary skill? Should we encourage its development? Will students be able to do well on high stakes tests without this skill? Daniels offers no promises. Should we be concerned?

EXTENSION
Interestingly, I have actually seen a New Zealand language arts textbook that was built around authentic text. Each chapter of the text included several samples of one text structure and exercises that led the students through examination of the text. However, it was not a widely adapted textbook and has gone out of print.

The internet provides a great array of real-life, engaging, informational text. Try the following sites for some good reading aimed at kids:
http://doctorbrain.tripod.com/kids.html
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/Home.html
CNN Student News: http://fyi.cnn.com/fyi/
NASAexplores: http://www.nasaexplores.com/

 

 

Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 2:11 pm

Author: Gallo, Annabelle <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: DANIELS: Expository Text in Lit Circles

 


 

I like the idea of giving kids sticky notes to mark discussion topics in what they read. This would be reallt beneficial to some kids because they read the text and then go back and rethink of their initial questions. This is an easy what for them to mark a page and then it makes going back and rememberig their discussion the second time much easier.

 

 

Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 8:47 pm

Author: Gentry, Pamela <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: DANIELS: Expository Text in Lit Circles

 


 

I was at an office supply store in the country I'm in and saw these really cool sticky notes that are cut out in diffent shapes (arrows, cartoon bubbles, flowers, hearts, etc.)....are these available in the states, too? I didn't seem them this summer or spring while I was there.

 

 

Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 10:54 am

Author: Brewer, Julie <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: DANIELS: Expository Text in Lit Circles

 


 

What an informative summary/response! The Daniels article obviously contained a wealth of great ideas and practical information. The idea that the language/type of expository text found on standardized tests is not representative of authentic text is one I encountered in articles during session 4 of this class. Given this idea, should we just teach the test as a separate genre, equip students to be able to read and respond to it, and move on to preparing them for "real-life" reading? Is this approach realistic?

Thanks for the web links. I'm going there now!

 

 

Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 8:35 pm

Author: Brown, Teena <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: DANIELS: Expository Text in Lit Circles

 


 

I believe Dr. Tice is a proponent of teaching the test as a separate genre. And I too believe it is important for students to have those specific skills given our test focused society. I think to that textbook reading is important for students to understand. It is a resource that students should know how to use, just like a thesaurus, a dictionary, etc. And college life is highly centered around textbook reading. However I would like to comment that classes in college are generally more specific in topic and so the texts seem to offer more valuable information. Learning how to digest them is still quite valuable. And on another note, students who understand that there is other information out there beyond the text to be found may be in a better position to seek out that information in conjunction with text.

 

 

Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 8:44 pm

Author: Gentry, Pamela <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: DANIELS: Expository Text in Lit Circles

 


 

I appreciate your comments. It is unlikely that textbook reading is going to disappear anytime soon. For one thing, there is a big industry in it. For another, there is so much inertia built into our system of education. It would take a long time to turn this ship around. And then, of course, there is your excellent point that textbooks CAN be useful :-) and even interesting when they are more topic specific.

 

 

Date: Sat Oct 2, 2004 8:41 pm

Author: Gentry, Pamela <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: DANIELS: Expository Text in Lit Circles

 


 

This is certainly what the article implies. Is it realistic? It would be worth a try. I guess the question is how you want to use your available instructional time....Maybe set aside a week to teach this genre, and then have one homework assignment per week for follow-up practice. And the kids who continue to struggle could have a bit of extra help before test taking time. Would this work?

 

 

Date: Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:24 pm

Author: Gentry, Pamela <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: When Readers Struggle

 


 

Erica-What a great job you did with your struggling student. I wonder if he liked handwriting because it was something he control and reflected his strength. Its so sad when kids like this move around so much - makes it hard for them to get the help they need.

About teaching to the test or teaching the student ... I guess we all have to make this decision. The reality is that time invested in reading at the frustrating level is probably counter productive with these struggling readers. They need LOTS and LOTS of easier reading ... the time invested thus, should be very productive. And actually, it should help on the testing too, but you have to be brave to try it. Would I be brave enough? I don't know. I guess administrative support would help -- we need to find what really works with each student...do you feel you have the freedom to do so?

 

 

 

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