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drchaps
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15,
2003 5:15 am Post subject:
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codedog and dot1burnt, just an
example I wanted to bring to your attention. Maybe using the term
spam was a little harsh for the situation, but here is a good place
to reference. Since these users are guests for the most part, I dont
mind showing how posts by the same person can be misconstrued as
posts by one in the same. For instance, users "for dave940" and
"exdotone" are the same person, they used two different usernames
and could have been taken for two different people.
Im not
trying to really defend my point about it being spam, just to show
that it is possible.
Also, to the user I referenced above,
dave asked a very good question and all you could do is basically
criticize what he wrote, and then you made fun of one of our
moderators. Not a good way to endear yourself to us
bud.
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Corrine
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2003 10:03 am Post subject:
Long URLs |
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I do want to compliment the
various posters on ths topic for including the sources of the
information. Unfortunately, the phpBB software does not seem to like
long URLs. Copy/paste a long URL at http://www.snipurl.com/index.php or http://tinyurl.com/, and post your links that way.
I used SnipURL to replace the long urls in this thread.
Nothing else was changed in any of your posts and I identified each
with an edit note.
Notice now how much easier to read the
post are without having to use the scrollbar. 
To "The Lone Eagle" -- Welcome to
Freedomlist! By registering, I hope that is an indication that you
have found Freedomlist to be a helpful computing
resource.
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snake eyes
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| Posted: Wed Jan 15,
2003 20:41 pm Post subject:
did it die? |
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Just curious, did the big Dot1Web die today? I can't pull
their site up, no big loss though!  | |
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dave940
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2003 20:54 pm Post subject:
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Dave, there are two reasons why you shouldn't
subscribe to Webwide ISP or support Dot1web. The first is
moral and the second is logical.
Just as you would not
support a company that contributes to a cause you dislike, you
should not support a company that harms people. If you knew a
company was funnelling money to the Al Queda, you'd stop
purchasing from them, right? Now here's a company that fires
its workers a week before Christmas, without pay, and has
refused to pay them ( http://snurl.com/l8a). To boot, partners and
company's that have been ripped off by the owner of this
company for thousands of dollars have been reporting to
freedomlist for weeks - and being removed for some reason. You
should not support this mistreatment and deceitful practice.
It's not morally responsible of you.
The other half of
this reasoning is pure logic. This company is poorly run and
unstable. The CEO has numerous lawsuits against him ( http://www.codedog.org/nv/court_actions.htm
), misleads the public ( http://snurl.com/l8b ) and cannot manage his
money(http://snurl.com/l8c ). The CEO is under investigation
by the FBI ( http://snurl.com/l8d ) and suspected of
improper privacy acts ( http://www.badbusinessbureau.com/view.asp?id=2802
). Nobody has yet looked into Dot1web's licensing
practices
With evidence that the man behind Webwide
ISP is immoral and a potential criminal, are you excited that
this company has your credit card number and your personal
information?
As a consumer, you should be aware of a
company's buisiness practices. If they are improper, illegal
or morally objectionable you should weigh this against the
immediate gain of saving a few bucks. There are better ISP's
out there that do not practice their businesses as
questionably as Webwide ISP.
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This reasoning sounds nice, but how many of
us practice it? Our Christmas trees were loaded with toys,
electronics, and other gifts from a communist nation with an abysmal
human rights record (guess which?). I wanted to get my kids more
than a block of wood this year, so I'm guilty of this.
It's
a real stretch to expect this type of consumer vigilance on my part.
How many of you are willing to check the tags inside your tennis
shoes, and track down the production plants to ensure that the
employees in these compounds are treated like human beings?
I do feel sorry for the Dotweb employees who were laid off.
The previous poster's link states that apparently things might be
turning around there, and former employees may soon see some of
their benefits. But tell me what I should have known about this
company as a consumer looking for an ISP on Dec. 20. Get real. As I
alluded before, times are tough all around and I know a lot of
people (and I'm sure many Freedomlisters do also) that would be a
step or two up if they were in the position of laid off Dotweb
employees.
As for the logical reason, I suppose my use of
the Internet is too crude to notice a problem here as well. I was
supplied a fast, unlimited connection on demand. I was supplied one
more email address than I needed, which is none because I use
webmail. I was supplied more web space than I use, which is zero. I
have come to the conclusion that I don't really need the
incrementally better speed that a UU backbone provides, but if I
still were shopping for that, Webwide was a far better bargain than
any other ISP out there.
All this is irrelevant for me now,
because I cancelled by email (not in line with their terms of
service, but it appears to have been automatically processed
anyway). It states that I am cancelled as of today, but I still had
access late this afternoon (not using it now and can't check until
tomorrow). But, I no longer have a dog in this fight, so I'm outta
this thread. I hope all works out for the best, for the ex-employees
as well as whoever is left running Dotweb.
Is the Poetworld
limo long enough for a crap table inside? I wonder... | |
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acurry92
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| Posted: Wed Jan 15,
2003 21:06 pm Post subject:
dot1web....i feel for the employees |
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