Do No Touch This Amp: Who are ya and whaddya
do?
Andrew Duke: My name is Andrew Duke and by
day I am program director here at CKDU in Halifax. In my free time, I record
and perform and record electronic music.
DNTTA: When you say electronic music, what
do you mean? Your bio describes you as a techno artist, but your work doesn’t
sound like traditional techno music.
AD: I definitely make an effort to not try
to sound at all traditional in what I do. If I had to describe it, I’d
say I’m two different styles of music. One, I guess, would be techno-ish
in that it is rhythmic and you can dance to it, if you are so inclined.
The other stuff I do is more listener oriented. It might be rhythm oriented
but it’s not beat oriented or dance oriented. Some people might call it
dark ambient or experimental listening music, something along those lines.
Sometimes I am doing stuff that combines the two and sometimes I am doing
one or the other. That’s the biggest distinction.
DNTTA: How would you describe your music
then? Would you go along those same lines, dark ambient?
AD: I’m not a big fan of labels. I find it
most interesting when other people review it and come up with names for
what it sounds like. I find something really interesting is when someone
says this sounds like something-ish or is influenced by something else.
Sometimes they will come up with artists that I may have heard of but not
necessarily heard. If I hadn’t heard an artist then I couldn’t be influenced
by that artist, but someone will say, you sound like this artist or a variation
on this artists work. If it’s an artist I hadn’t heard, I may go out and
seek out that artist. There’s a wide range of artists that people had said
my stuff sounds similar to. Some of it is familiar artists like Aphex Twin,
or labels that people might know, like Mille Plateaux, or there are other
labels, for instance, like Mego, or smaller European labels that I may
have heard of but not enough to be influenced by. A name that’s come up
a number of times is Lustmord, which I may have heard about ten years ago
because I had a roommate back then that had a lot of electronic music from
that era. I recognize the name but it’s not something that I have had in
my collection. Autechre is another name that comes up. I have a couple
Autechre records, but I don’t sit around thinking “How did they do that?”
and “How am I gonna do that?” If anything, my favourite artists would be
artists like Drexciya out of Detroit, which are primarily electro artists
and they are very melodic, sometimes dark melodies and sometimes joyful
melodies.I am definitely not doing music in their style, but it is an artist
that I look up to and admire.
DNTTA: When I listen to your work, I heard
a lot of kraut-rock, especially more experimental bands like Kluster, or
modern artists like Pole or Pan sonic. Do you listen to those types of
artists at all?
AD: I am a huge Pole fan. I actually don’t
own any of his material, but I preview a lot of it at CKDU. I probably
heard some Kluster ten or fifteen years ago, but it’s not something I have
in my collection. I used to have a lot of Tangerine Dream records in my
collection at one point, maybe ten or so years ago. Pan sonic is another
artist is another artist that has come up in reviews, but it’s not an artist
that I have in my collection. I have heard stuff from then, I have heard
stuff from Mika Vainio and the other gentleman whose name I won’t attempt
to pronounce (ed. Note. His name is Ilpo Vaisanen). I find that interesting
that when the names get thrown out at me that I’m not like, “Oh no! They
found out the secret, that I am just copying them”. Honestly, I’m not doing
that. I am just playing with stuff and when I think it sounds good, it’s
good. 99% of the time it’s artists that I have heard of, but I don’t have
any records by them.
DNTTA: Let’s talk about your new album. It’s
called “Spring Has Sprung”. How did the album come about? Where did the
inspiration come from?
AD: Starting in January or so, I had been
recording listening type of music, dark ambient and experimental stuff
and that turned into an album called “Physical and Mental Health”, coming
out on Folding Cassette Recordings out of California. I wanted to get into
doing stuff that was more up-tempo and more beat oriented. I wanted it
to have some experimental touch to it, but I also wanted it to be techno-ish.
The first song I recorded was “Pharmacoi” then I did “Chromosome 20”, which
has dark textures that sort of swirl around. Then I did “Felt NH”. I did
“FF” really quickly and listened back to it the next day and said to myself,
“What the heck was I thinking?”, so I re-recorded it. That one has turned
into one of my favourite songs on the album. It’s very downtempo and has
alot of clicky sounds as opposed to textures. The second song that was
done was “Crablike”. My goal was to do something that had a funk feel to
it, but had an on-beat, off-beat, a disorienting type of feel to it. I
send the first five sounds out to some friends who play music and are DJs
at campus/community stations and got a good response to those. I thought
I would do some more stuff, but I didn’t want to do the same thing again.
Then I did the last five songs. “Knot Rocket” was a track that I did quickly
and I listened to it again and thought “What the heck was I doing?”, then
I redid it, and thought “That really doesn’t do it either”, so I put the
two together. The first half of “Knot Rocket” is Day One and the second
half is Day Two. I sort of had a love/hate relationship with that because
I did it so quickly. One of the reviews, in Ultra Magazine in Belgium,
said that was their favourite song on the album. So, at that point I had
ten songs, so I sent it out as a sampler to some people. Then I thought
I should give it a title instead of just calling it a sampler. So, what
should I call this? I recorded these songs in January, February and March
so it was pretty much Spring. I thought, I’ll call it “Spring Has Sprung”
as a joke. I’m not sure how Spring is in your part of the country, but
in Nova Scotia it’s pretty darn crappy, its dark and rainy. I thought it
would be ironic, because when you hear the phrase “Spring has sprung”,
you think hippies and flowers. Instead of calling it “Ten Dark Songs Recording
Just Before the Spring”, I called it “Spring Has Sprung” for a joke. It’s
kind of backfired on me in a way, because some of the reviews have said
that this was a perfect title, it sounds like creatures blossoming. In
!exclaim Magazine, then described one of the songs as amphibians in a pond
having a rave! For me, that’s great because you get to read other people’s
reactions and 99% of the time, it’s not something that even crossed your
mind. 99% of the time, they are telling you things about your work that
you never thought about. A good way to put it with the 1% it does work
out, I recorded a song for another album called “Andbolts”. I didn’t want
to call it “Nuts and Bolts”, I just called it “Andbolts”. A lot of people
heard the song and didn’t get it, but one person emailed me and she asked
me “So, where’s the nuts?”. Everyone else was going, “Well ‘Andbolts’,
what the heck does that mean?”. There are a lot of little in-jokes, like
there is one song called “Inbox” and one called “RSVP”. Those are fun to
do. I put a lot of thought into the order of how the songs should be done
and a lot of people have picked up on that. I’ve got good reviews, if I
can’t get a label to put it out, I’ll put it out on Cognition Audioworks.
It’s got some attention from labels, but they want me to do other stuff
from them. There’s a label in Sweden called Komplott, and one in France
called Bip-Hop, one in Finland called pHinnmilk. If I don’t have someone
license “Spring Has Sprung” by September or October, I’ll just do up some
covers and put it out on Cognition Audioworks.
DNTTA: Tell me about Cognition Audioworks
as a label then. Do you just put out your own stuff or do you work with
other artists as well?
AD: I have worked with other artists in the
past. I had two cassette labels in the 80s, one called Digitalis, which
was more electronic stuff, much darker and not all techno-ish. The second
was called Incognito Musique, which was essentially just some friends and
roommates farting around. We did dancy stuff and we called it Incognito
Musique because we didn’t put our real names to it. Did you ever see the
commercial about 10 years ago with Scott and Joey? There would be a series
of cheese commercials with Scott and Joey, they would eat cheese and comment
about it?
DNTTA: Yeah, I remember those.
AD: We had a band called Scott and Joey,
and it was cheesy dance music. That was our little in-joke. We took it
to all the clubs in Halifax and they would be playing our little dance
song off a cassette. We thought it was really hilarious, because we had
no intention other than having some fun with it. I put those things to
bed and in 1990, I started up Cognition Audioworks. There were a couple
of things released on cassette that were recorded in my studio, Cognition
Sound. Those were just limited edition, just sent out to some friends and
some radio stations, pretty low key. Then I put out a couple of my earlier
releases that are no longer available, “Communion” and “Drowning in Oxygen”,
put out on cassette with hand packaging. Then I got into releasing stuff
on CD around 95. I didn’t have a lot of contacts, it was for fun. When
I started syndicating my show on CKDU, I got a lot more contacts, and people
were saying, “I noticed you have a record label, what about sending out
some promos?” I hadn’t really bothered to send out that many promos. When
I started to send out “Spring Has Sprung”, I thought, “I’m really gonna
promote this.” So I sent 35 copies to a lot of campus stations in Canada,
some copies to some stations in the States, some copies to RadioSonic and
Brave New Waves. I acted like a real record company, but it was really
low key. It’s hard when you are recording and acting as a record label
to keep track of the business end of it. You can be so busy with recording
that you don’t have any time to pay attention to the business end and get
the music out there. I’m trying to keep it low key. Maybe in five years
or so, I might be releasing all kinds of material, but for now, I’m just
doing my own material on Cognition Audioworks in pretty low-key fashion.
DNTTA: You work for CKDU, the campus station
at Dalhousie, and you have a radio show called “In the Mix”.
AD: Yup, it’s on Thursdays, 2-3:30 Atlantic
Standard. About half the time you can hear us on RealAudio at our website.
DNTTA: What do you play on your radio show?
AD: I play electronic music, probably 50%
experimental listening stuff and 50% upbeat, techno stuff. There have been
times where I play mostly vinyl and beatmixed it, and there are other times
where I feel like collaging stuff, so I play tapes and CDs at the same
time. I try to keep a balance, so if you like the dancy stuff, there is
enough of that so that when I get into the experimental stuff, you won’t
go “Goodness!”. If you like the experimental stuff, but not into the techno
stuff, you can appreciate it as well. I will also play some electro stuff,
some old school stuff, like old house music.
DNTTA: Is that the sort of music you are
interested in? Is that the music that influences your music?
AD: I wouldn’t just say I am interested in
that. If I am home, I could be just as easily be listening to some Louis
Armstrong or Stevie Wonder. When I am home, a lot of my time is spent,
listening to electronic music, so when you are done that, you don’t want
to be listening to more electronic music. I do have a lot of electronic
records in my collection, but I probably have twice as many funk records
in my collection. I like disco, but not like ABBA and the Bee Gees, I’m
not into that pop disco. I like the disco that was like proto-house that
grew into the techno and electronic music we have today.
DNTTA: You have a website. What do you used
it for?
AD: When I was doing a lot of music writing,
I would archive the columns on the website. It was also one of the sites
that carried the syndicated version of my radio show. At one point, there
was about 60 hours of audio archives there, with interviews and live PAs.
All the text based stuff is still up. I haven’t done a syndicated show
since May 2000, because the server that was serving the show shut down.
In the past, you would have been able to go to my site and listen to the
show. You can see what’s available but you can’t listen to them. I have
all the shows on CD-R, but I haven’t had time to get them into the computer.
There is a lot of stuff to read on there, like interviews with Pole and
some Micro-Sound artists, some Canadian artist like Daniel Lui out of Toronto.
DNTTA: What’s the electronic music scene
like in Halifax?
AD: DJ-wise it’s not bad. We have a thriving
hip-hop scene. There are a lot of trance and drum and bass DJs. There is
a bit of house music, but not many techno DJs. Live DJs are hard to find,
mainly because of our population and because our scene has just started
growing since 92. For the past five or six years, every October has been
the Halifax Experimental Music Festival, which is good. There might be
some art exhibits with some electronic music. I think there is a lot of
potential at this point, but we still have a ways to go.
DNTTA: How do you think the Canadian scene
is for electronic music?
AD: In the bigger cities, it’s a lot better.
Toronto and Montreal are doing very well. In Montreal, they have the Mutek
Festival, that’s one of the best electronic festivals in North America.
I have heard good things about Vancouver. I was in Winnipeg for the NCRA
Conference this summer and they seem to have a really strong hip-hop scene.
There is still lots that can be done, and we need to let people recognize
that it’s not DJs who make the music, it’s the artists. It’s like radio.
You know that the people who tell you the weather aren’t the people playing
the music. Halifax is still working towards that.
DNTTA: What releases have caught your ear
lately?
AD: I listen to a lot of stuff that isn’t
electronic music. I can appreciate sonic elements of Destiny’s Child. You
might think that’s strange for an electronic musician to mention, but I
can appreciate it. I may not be buying the CD, but there are elements that
I can enjoy. As for electronic music, I tend to like stuff off the Mille
Plateau label out of Germany, I like some of the stuff on Force Inc. I
like a lot of Canadian stuff like Tomas Jirku and Mitchell Akiyama.
DNTTA: Last question, what’s up next for
you?
AD: I applied yesterday to play at the Halifax
Pop Explosion. The few people I have talked to said that it needs some
electronic music. I have also applied to be part of the Mutek Festival
in Montreal. I definitely want to get into doing some sort of live tour
some time later this year or early next year. “Spring Has Sprung” will
likely be out on a label, maybe Cognition Audioworks around October. By
that time, “Physical and Mental Health” will be out on Folding Cassette
Styles. I have recorded a companion album to that called “More Destructive
Than Organized”, coming out on a sub-label of Staalplaat called Bake. I
am currently working on a full-length for a label for a label out of California
for Phthalo, called “Consumer vs. User”. There’s not a lot of texture to
that album, it’s more crazy noises. I am on a couple compilations, one
called “Integral Components” from the Component label, one on souRce Research
out of the UK. Their last compilation had Coil on it. I would say Coil,
its not conscious I think about Coil, but if you were to ask me ten years
ago who my influences were, I would say Coil.
DNTTA: Good luck in your future endeavours
and thanks for your time!