Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:09:31 AMHi Rahul
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:09:57 AMhey naveed
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:10:41 AMso whats up?
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:11:11 AMhi justin
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:11:15 AMgoodmorning
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:11:29 AMhey justin
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:12:16 AMso the basic purpose of todays meeting is to clarify the list of use cases and assign some to each of us for cleanup
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:12:38 AMRight. Also to come up with a standard format
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:12:46 AMcorrect
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:13:18 AMwhat format do you guys like? there is the Rational examples one, and also one in UML distilled
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:13:34 AMi think we can go with the Rational format
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:13:45 AMI followed naveeds which i think are the examples one.
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:13:55 AMThis is the same as the ones on the RUP sites, right?
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:14:25 AMyep
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:14:26 AMRight.
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:14:35 AMI bascally took the templates from the site and modified them for our project.
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:14:36 AMThey do look pretty bad though.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:14:48 AMyou mean visually?
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:15:01 AMProbably because there more sections and formating then there is content. Yes rahul.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:15:13 AMwel they are just a start
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:15:21 AMthe content will come
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:15:27 AMif thats the only thing wrong
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:15:42 AMIt looks like the ones on page 40 in uml distilled look about the same anyway.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:15:58 AMbasically yes
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:16:07 AManyway i think the format is fine
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:16:14 AMsame hear
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:16:29 AMhave you guys taken a look at the use case specification?
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:16:40 AMdo we have all those use cases written up?
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:16:42 AMYes I read it.
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:17:16 AMYes. It looks like there were 14
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:17:30 AMi think the best way to go about this is to look at the list in the use case spec, then each of tus takes a few and either adapts or rewrites what we have to fit the framework
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:17:57 AMsounds good
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:18:30 AMSo we make ten use cases.
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:18:48 AMThere are about 14 docs in the folder
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:19:20 AMdo you think i missed any use cases in the spec? or do we have duplication?
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:19:38 AMI was just going to look at that.
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:19:51 AMI am comparing right now
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:19:54 AMk
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:20:30 AMwhat is the difference between HR staff and employee
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:20:39 AMfor example user authentication. Should that be one use case and others just include that case.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:20:48 AMdont look at the UseCaseDiagram.pdf
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:21:17 AMyes naveed
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:21:44 AMis it not the right file.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:22:00 AMnope go back to the main page and look at the Use Case Specification link
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:22:10 AMI am looking at the usecases.pdf file
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:22:15 AMthere are 10 use cases.
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:22:21 AMlisted.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:22:21 AMnope thats not standardized
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:22:27 AMGot it.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:23:14 AMnaveed is it just a diagram or both text and diagrams
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:23:39 AMboth text and diagram
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:23:48 AMthats the right one
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:24:52 AMso there are 10 use cases, with two pairs generalizing to 2 use cases
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:25:53 AMYes, this diagram looks good
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:25:58 AMagreed.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:26:01 AMgood
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:26:12 AMwe could just divide up by actor
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:26:19 AMWhat does the generalization thing mean exactly
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:26:39 AMit means that the two use cases are esentially simple special cases of the general use case
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:27:18 AMfor example, searching the general resume pool and searching the company resume pool are generalizations of the same use case -- search a resume pool
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:27:32 AMsorry other way around
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:27:35 AM:)
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:27:48 AMI see, so would we only need one use case for both or one for each ?
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:27:56 AMHay Rahul, the circles in the diagram represnts a use case right.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:27:59 AMwe need one main general use case
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:28:02 AMyep naveed
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:28:06 AMcool
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:28:16 AMthen we write up two of them as special cases of that general use case
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:28:27 AMThere are 12 circles.
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:28:33 AMin the diagram .
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:28:41 AMcorrect, that includes the generalizations
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:28:50 AMi'll include them in the list
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:29:01 AMOk
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:29:11 AMHow differenct would they look rahul ?
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:29:21 AMheres an example
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:29:33 AMu write up the "search resume pool" case in detail
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:30:04 AMthen for "search company resume" you specify that the person must be logged in and the pool to search is only the company pool
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:30:14 AMthen simply link to the other case
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:30:29 AMthe general "search resume pool" case
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:30:31 AMok.
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:30:37 AMQuestion.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:30:37 AMkinda like procedures?
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:30:53 AMDo we write supporting use cases separately?
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:31:03 AMFor example in the manage job posting.
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:31:24 AMThere are a few things. Open resume.
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:31:41 AMOpen Job Posting, Delete Job Posting. Update
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:31:47 AMyes
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:31:56 AMShould each of these be a separate use case?
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:32:30 AMi think they can be separate, but we can "include" them in the Manage Job Postings use case
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:32:56 AMWouldn't those come later when we start getting more specific and breaking the problem dow n?
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:33:23 AMwe could do it both ways. right now they would just be a couple of lines of action
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:33:36 AMor, we could set them up as alternatives within the same use case
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:33:55 AMI think we can keep them in the same ue case right know.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:34:11 AMok go with yopur judgement
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:34:15 AMSo hwo do we want to divide these up ?
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:34:25 AMso what i was thinking was we could divide up the use cases by actor
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:34:34 AMthe actors on the left that is
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:35:04 AMI will take up partner employer
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:35:27 AMI'll take the job applicant
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:35:34 AMMost of the use cases I worte deal with partner emplyer.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:35:34 AMok i guess i got mine then
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:35:38 AMok
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:35:53 AMnaveed i'll write up the searhc resume pool thing, just include it
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:36:03 AMSure.
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:36:05 AMWhen should we have these done by ?
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:36:11 AMtomorrow :)
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:36:24 AMASAP generally
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:36:26 AMok
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:36:32 AMTomorrow night :)
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:36:44 AMWhat is the list of things to enhance in these use cases?
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:36:50 AMwe have to give these to chandra and the use case designers so they acn start working on the design specifics
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:36:54 AMFor example Actors.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:37:03 AMits in the spec
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:37:09 AMCoherence according to the spec.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:37:10 AMuse case spec has a list of actors
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:37:35 AMAnd another thing.
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:37:42 AMWhat about authentication.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:37:47 AMoh yeah
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:37:50 AMIs that supposed to be a use case.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:37:54 AMi'll write that up too
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:38:05 AMand add it to the diagram as a generally used case
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:38:14 AMactually naveed can you write it up?
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:38:20 AMAnd I can include that in my use case.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:38:25 AMok
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:38:51 AMso we set then?
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:38:56 AMShould we also rename our files?
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:39:11 AMyes, preferably with the numbering if possible
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:39:16 AMGood call
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:39:19 AMi'll update the list later today
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:39:22 AMAnd these would be in the elaboration folder
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:39:29 AMcorrecty
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:39:43 AMelaboration I to be preciese
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:39:52 AMok good
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:40:16 AMis that it then?
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:40:24 AMyup.
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:40:27 AMi think so.
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:40:35 AMu want to meet monday night to see what we have?
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:40:50 AMsure
Rahul Karnik11/10/200111:40:52 AMalso please e-mail me if something is wrong with the spec that you see
Justin Circelli11/10/200111:41:04 AMok
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:41:14 AMsure
Naveed Ahmad11/10/200111:41:15 AMbye
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