| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:23:37 PM | Hi Rahul |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:23:58 PM | Are you there |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:24:53 PM | yes naveed |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:24:57 PM | no one else around? |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:25:01 PM | nopes |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:25:20 PM | so whats up? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:25:21 PM | ok |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:25:29 PM | Have you done the assignemt 5. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:25:34 PM | well i was gonna tell yopu guys some stuff we need to get done |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:25:42 PM | but i guess i'll e-mail everyione instead |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:26:00 PM | so whats the stuff we need to do. |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:26:23 PM | hi chandra |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:26:25 PM | basically the 4+1 view of the architecture |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:26:30 PM | hi chandra |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:26:40 PM | Hi Rahul |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:26:54 PM | Is naveed in |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:27:01 PM | whats the 4+1 view of architecture? |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:27:13 PM | Hi Naveed |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:27:22 PM | we need a logical view, a process view, an implementation view and a deployment view |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:27:35 PM | i see |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:27:35 PM | plus the use cases that is the "+1" part |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:27:52 PM | i can work on the logical view and the process view |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:27:57 PM | is there ay artifact related to these |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:28:06 PM | more work is needes on the other 3, and cvhandra will need help |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:28:18 PM | yep, this is basically the archiutecture document |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:28:19 PM | on the web site |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:28:38 PM | nope, but the RUP example shows all the views |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:28:48 PM | I have already complied an High level component architecture that includes different layers. Soft of high |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:29:30 PM | IS the RUP example the aritfact template? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:29:36 PM | pretty much |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:29:39 PM | ok |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:29:43 PM | we will put chandra's stuff in it |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:29:51 PM | and add the other views as we go along |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:29:59 PM | ok |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:30:00 PM | I did mail that to distrimon, some how doesn't show in my inbox. Did you guys get it. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:30:05 PM | hey justin |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:30:10 PM | hey |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:30:16 PM | Hi Justin. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:30:35 PM | nope chandra i haven't got it |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:30:41 PM | I hear cnn from someone. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:30:48 PM | oops sorry |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:31:08 PM | is this cnn from you pc or television :) |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:31:11 PM | pc |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:31:15 PM | tv tuner |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:31:21 PM | cool |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:31:35 PM | yeah i'll get a real tv soon, till then i'm getting by |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:31:36 PM | I think I have good start with this, I will mail this tomorrow in the morning. Please give me your feed back. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:31:44 PM | ok chandra |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:31:59 PM | So what view are you working on Chandra? |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:32:22 PM | Or have you worked at a high level on the 4 views? |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:32:31 PM | This would be High level Component Architecture, with different layers. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:32:52 PM | essentially the deployment view |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:33:01 PM | right. |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:33:09 PM | i see |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:33:10 PM | chandra are you including technological decisions in this as well? |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:33:37 PM | Hold on guys One minute. I will be back. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:33:44 PM | k |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:34:11 PM | justin did you get my message last night? |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:34:29 PM | Email or chat ? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:34:53 PM | chat |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:34:56 PM | msn |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:35:13 PM | well both i guess, i also sent you my part of the homework |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:35:30 PM | Yes I did, I talked with chandra right around 9:30 and got caught up to date on everything. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:35:43 PM | great |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:36:53 PM | naveed can u edit your use cases to use the new Actor names? |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:37:23 PM | Yes, this component view makes some technology decisions like using Javascript on web pages, MS IIS as the web server, VB or Java as the Component language, SQL as the data store. |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:37:25 PM | I will do the same Rahul. I will also elaborate more on them for Fridays deadline. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:37:59 PM | cool chandra. thanks justin. |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:38:30 PM | What view are we looking at ? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:38:36 PM | chandra u need to meet with the use case designers to work out how your architecture decisions accomodate each of the use cases |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:38:51 PM | justin where? |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:38:54 PM | Yes I can change the actor names for my use cases. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:38:59 PM | thanks naveed |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:39:00 PM | yes, I agree. |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:39:11 PM | component view ? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:39:32 PM | deployment view/component view |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:39:57 PM | I have the components for UI, TL, BL, DL . Now we need to come up with the right size classes to |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:40:37 PM | handle the use cases. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:41:04 PM | chandra we should try to comeup with classes by the end of next week. then we can make sequence/collaboration diagrams for each use case the last week. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:41:16 PM | i guees thats the second week actually |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:41:26 PM | Right it's is Distributed architecture/Deployment view. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:41:30 PM | we can use the last week for some prototyping |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:42:37 PM | This view should help us with what our components are going to look like, and the infrastructure connecting |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:43:16 PM | Unfortunately, I did it using visio, so I don't have it with me. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:43:58 PM | chandra visio saves as gif/jpeg send it to us that way |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:44:57 PM | I think I can create .PDF as well. So, will mail it tomorrow morning. If you get a chance please get back. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:45:24 PM | k |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:45:40 PM | Rahul how detailed should our update use-cases be ? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:45:56 PM | justin first priority is to update them to the new actor names, etc. |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:46:06 PM | So when are we planning to thing about the ER, Object diagrams. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:46:08 PM | put those versions in the inception directory |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:46:17 PM | naveed next week |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:46:42 PM | justin the next part will be to update the use cases with collaboration or sequence diagrams (see UML distilkled) |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:47:09 PM | Does everyone in our team have a approximate picture what our application use cases. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:47:10 PM | the use cases which incorporate the architecture that chandra has designed will be part of our elaboration phase deliverables |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:47:18 PM | When you say next part, do you mean for the current deadline or next ? |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:47:28 PM | We need to come up with class diagram before we do the sequence, right. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:47:46 PM | yes chandra, the sequence diagrams are due at the end of the week after next |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:47:54 PM | ok. |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:47:55 PM | A picture of the application. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:47:57 PM | classes come bnext week |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:48:25 PM | naveed the use case spec is at our website now, and we also have the vision diagram |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:48:36 PM | who is going to help with use case realization? |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:49:02 PM | I guess I can look up the roles/names. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:49:05 PM | use case designers wil decide the implementation with you |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:49:16 PM | sorry, i don't remember the names offhand |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:49:22 PM | The picture of the application I had I put up as a UI protoype to realise/access our use cases. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:49:24 PM | it is in the project plan |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:50:12 PM | naveed i think thats a great starting point for our prototype, so as chandra works on the architecture you can decide how each component works to give you the interface that you have made |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:50:43 PM | Sounds good to me. |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:50:52 PM | I think we can refine our use cases by looking or rethinking the screens. |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:51:50 PM | Naveed, please look at the architecture diagram tomorrow, I have mentioned important use cases in it. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:51:53 PM | yep, it helps you see any steps that you might have missed |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:52:11 PM | justin u still there? |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:52:18 PM | yes |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:52:20 PM | Yah I didnt incorporate all the use cases. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:52:35 PM | so another thing to add to the use cases is more detail about how each step is done |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:52:41 PM | But I tried to draw the application out for myself. |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:53:04 PM | How it might look down the road. |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:53:15 PM | True. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:53:22 PM | so where you might have said "asks use for preferences" you can elaborate to "asks user for , #1, #2 and #3" |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:53:50 PM | that you can work on right now as well, you do not need the class diagrams |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:54:11 PM | make sure you have covered alternative scenarios |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:54:21 PM | Yah thats refining the use cases. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:55:05 PM | yes. i think it is extremely important for us to have well-refined and compltete use cases, because they are the heart of RUP and will be an important part of our grade |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:55:30 PM | has any body gone through all the use cases? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:55:51 PM | i went through a couple |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:55:54 PM | Also, while we are building the class diagram, we may need more clarification or refinement of the UC. |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:55:58 PM | Not yet. I've only went through mine and naveeds |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:56:07 PM | i need help with revieing the use cases |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:56:20 PM | No overlap on those. I haven't looked at the others. |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:56:21 PM | I was wondering if all the use cases were coherent. |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:56:28 PM | I went through most of them last week. However, haven't seen the new chages. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:56:35 PM | naveed thats why i wrote up the use case spec |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:56:47 PM | if nothing else they should all use the same terminology |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:57:11 PM | and probably the same formatting as much as possible |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:57:32 PM | I can help with that |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:58:17 PM | There are some over laps, repeatations that we can consolidate. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:58:20 PM | thanks justin; can u do the first 4 or 5 and i'll work on the rest? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:58:53 PM | chandra take a look at the use case diagram in the use case specification, it shows how some of the generalizations are made |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 9:58:55 PM | Sure. What format should we standardize on ? |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 9:59:00 PM | I can also take a few up |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 9:59:16 PM | like login is mentioned in all uc, can be set at pre condition. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:59:18 PM | great naveed! i\u wanna do yours, since u have 3 as it is? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:59:42 PM | then justin and i can do 3 and 3 as well |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 9:59:58 PM | or are there 10? one sec... |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:00:24 PM | k there are 10 |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:00:43 PM | naveed, justin, how should we divide these up? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:00:51 PM | R1 thru R10? |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 10:01:00 PM | Ok. |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:01:06 PM | Ok are we just reformatting, |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:01:15 PM | Or elaborating these use cases? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:01:31 PM | naveed reformatting only, unles you notice something seriously wrong |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:01:40 PM | alos terminology |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:01:54 PM | go according to the terms used in the use case specification |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 10:01:59 PM | Is this the correct link we're working from http://www.geocities.com/distrimon/docs/inception/usecases/ |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:02:01 PM | k? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:02:09 PM | yes |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:02:15 PM | http://www.geocities.com/distrimon/docs/inception/usecases.pdf |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:02:37 PM | thats the use case specification, take a look at it while you do the rewrite and reformatting |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:02:42 PM | So these use cases are good enough to be used for the elaboration phase? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:02:53 PM | naveed yes |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:03:12 PM | enough to come up with a design, unless chandra disagrees :) |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:03:30 PM | who will be working on the design. |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:03:38 PM | I want to get involved in that part. |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 10:03:38 PM | Some of them we need little more meat like error conditions or alternate path. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:04:10 PM | naveed u van help chandra out |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 10:04:13 PM | I will be working on the design along with use case specifier and component desgner |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:04:28 PM | cool |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 10:04:49 PM | sounds good. |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 10:05:04 PM | Rahul, should there be one use case for every bubble on the use case diagram ? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:05:11 PM | yes naveed |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:05:29 PM | yes justin i mean |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:06:48 PM | justin do you want to meet to go over the list of use cases? naveed you too? |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 10:06:53 PM | sure |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:06:58 PM | yes |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:07:08 PM | hows tomorrow for you guys? |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 10:07:17 PM | That's fine, what time ? |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:07:20 PM | Can we do it on Saturday? |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:07:29 PM | i don';t mind, justin? |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 10:07:43 PM | What time on sat ? |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 10:08:06 PM | Do you guys need my help with UCs? |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:08:15 PM | Any time as long as it dosent hurt any social activities. |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:08:16 PM | :) |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 10:08:36 PM | i will be the reviewer. |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 10:08:40 PM | How about late morning around 11 or 11:30 |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:08:48 PM | Fine with me. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:08:54 PM | chandra i think u are busy enough with architecture, but you are welcome to join :) |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:09:04 PM | i'm in guys |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:09:21 PM | ok i'' have the netmeeting on before 11 |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:09:22 PM | ok see y'all then |
| Justin Circelli | 11/7/2001 | 10:09:40 PM | see you all |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:09:45 PM | bye |
| Naveed Ahmad | 11/7/2001 | 10:09:50 PM | bye |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 10:09:51 PM | U R right, I will concentrate on the architecture. However, will help you with the review. |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 10:10:00 PM | bye guys. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:10:08 PM | chandra do send out what you have done tomorrow |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:10:19 PM | that way we can guive you feedback on saturday |
| Chandra Shekara | 11/7/2001 | 10:10:25 PM | Sure. Give me your feed back if you can. |
| Rahul Karnik | 11/7/2001 | 10:10:31 PM | bye all |