Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:07:28 PMHi Shabib
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:07:51 PMCan you see the chat window?
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:07:58 PMI can
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:08:06 PMSo where are you from ?
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:08:18 PMI live in Hanover Park, a suburb of Chicago
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:08:23 PMWhat about you
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:08:24 PMI see
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:08:38 PMI live in NJ, Sayreville
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:09:05 PMWeve been using text chat
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:09:30 PMDo you use video at all?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:09:33 PMWe tried talking in the beginning but figured chat was easier.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:09:52 PMNopes no video.
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:09:57 PMYeah, I was wondering how talking would work
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:10:22 PMYeah wait a sec if I can but the mic on
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:10:30 PMsure
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:10:55 PMTry talking
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:11:09 PMdid you hear that?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:11:33 PMNo I lost your video too
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:12:08 PMI think this is not working
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:12:11 PMYeah
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:12:37 PMSo how did you set up your own net meeting ip address?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:12:42 PMBy the way Rahul will not be joining us today
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:12:54 PMWell Ive got cable connection
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:13:14 PMMost of the time i get the same ip address
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:13:19 PMHi Sadaf
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:13:21 PMoh, i see
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:13:26 PMHello
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:13:30 PMHi
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:14:04 PMSo how are you doing sadaf?
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:14:27 PMtrying hard to cope with 2 courses
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:14:36 PMHey Mohammad did you get a chance to read the dcos from the website
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:14:51 PMWhats the other course?
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:14:53 PMyour website?
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:14:58 PMcs333
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:15:04 PMThe distrimon web site
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:15:09 PMoh, no i did not
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:15:18 PMHere s the url
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:15:31 PMhttp://www.geocities.com/distrimon
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:15:55 PMNaveed, how is Sumera
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:16:00 PMShe is fine.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:16:04 PMDoing well
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:17:21 PMwhat are the artifacts for this project for this semester in addition to code
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:17:34 PMMohammad you may read the description and project plan
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:17:56 PMI think this time we have to focus more on configuration management
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:18:02 PMsoftware etc.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:18:13 PMAnd lesser documentation.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:18:31 PMHas anybody explored cvs?
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:20:09 PMDid we lose Sadaf?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:20:21 PMI think you went away.
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:20:26 PMoh
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:20:41 PMDo you know anything about cvs?
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:21:07 PMJust what I learned in lecture.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:21:11 PMOk
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:21:26 PMIve did some research and I will tell you what I know
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:21:37 PMHave you heard about cygwin?
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:21:40 PMyes
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:22:08 PMyou can install that
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:22:16 PMAnd it has CVS with it
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:22:18 PMyes, i have before
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:22:24 PMoh, really?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:22:27 PMyup
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:22:29 PMI never noticed it before
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:22:44 PMYou can set up a repository with it
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:23:10 PMI can show you by sharing my desktop
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:23:13 PMHey sadaf
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:23:21 PMI was telling Mohammad about cygwin
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:23:39 PMits a unix simulator for windows.
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:23:42 PMi don't know i got disconnected
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:23:50 PMok
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:23:52 PMHi Brian
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:23:55 PMHello Brian
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:23:58 PMHello all.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:24:31 PMSo let me repeat
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:24:42 PMI was talking about a tool called cygwin
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:24:57 PMi.e. if you want to explore cvs on windows.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:25:22 PMcygwin with many other unix utilites has cvs as well
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:25:32 PMDoes everybody have a goo connection?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:25:50 PMI can share my desktop to explore cygwin
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:25:59 PMsure
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:26:23 PMOk can you see my desktop?
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:26:27 PMi can see it
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:26:31 PMYes
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:26:42 PMyes
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:26:51 PMok i installed it from redhat site.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:27:01 PMI can mail the url in the email .
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:27:30 PMnaveed...is your computer our cvs server?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:27:43 PMNo not yet
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:27:52 PMWe need to figure out that
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:27:56 PMok
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:28:04 PMDo we have cvs on out csil machines?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:28:11 PMI was just learning cvs
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:28:21 PMif we don't, prof. johnson might be able to get something set up for us
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:28:35 PMYup, that will be the best
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:28:37 PMOk
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:28:50 PMSo the first step is to set up a repository
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:29:11 PMI created a directory cvsrep in my home
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:29:31 PMAnd have made an env variable CVSROOT pointing to it
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:30:25 PMThe second step is to export a new directory structure to cvs
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:31:01 PMIf you have a directory yoyodyne/eg1 some where
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:31:08 PMand you want to put that into cvs
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:31:30 PMyou exexute the command cvs import
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:31:55 PMThis will put all the files of yoyodyne/eg1 under cvs
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:33:50 PMok I just checked out all the files from the previosly created repositiry.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:35:28 PMI just diid s cvs diff to see the difference between my code and the code in the repository
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:35:51 PMNow I am going to checkin the code to the repositry
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:36:37 PMSo these chages have been commited to the cvs repository
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:37:02 PMKnow there is no difference in the repositry and my local code.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:37:11 PMAftet I am done
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:37:18 PMI can remove the folder
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:37:38 PMend of cvs 101
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:37:56 PMSo was everyone following?
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:38:03 PMthats great
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:38:18 PMyeah, seems pretty good
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:38:39 PMcan we do a global build of our software on cvs ?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:38:49 PMYou can get cygwin from http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:39:02 PMActually you need to configure your build enviorment
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:39:08 PMfor global builds.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:39:21 PMSome VPATH settings
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:40:40 PMhello again
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:41:10 PMhello
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:41:16 PMi was asking can we do a global build of our software on cvs which can compile everybody's code no matter who submitted and when ?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:41:33 PMYou can but you need to configure your build enviornment
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:41:35 PMwith it
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:41:48 PMok
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:41:50 PMIts to do with the Makefile and VPATH settings
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:42:31 PMBut in cvs, people just checkout the whole directory structure to do builds
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:43:00 PMic
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:43:27 PMSo how do we want to do this homework?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:43:52 PMHere is the url for cygwin
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:43:53 PMhttp://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:44:31 PMRahul was talking about setting up a cvs server at his home
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:44:40 PMWe need to figure that out very soon
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:44:51 PMi like to be in the first group
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:45:10 PMHow many people do we have? Is Cesar Nunez still in the group?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:45:28 PMI dont know whose in the group.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:45:39 PMDo we have a list somewhere?
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:45:50 PMYeah it is at http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/SEcourse/Spring+2002+Project+Assignments
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:46:17 PMgood
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:46:27 PMSo we have 2 Brains !
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:47:07 PMHey can someone login to csil-suna1.cs.uiuc.edu
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:47:14 PMno. the other brian is dropping the course
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:47:17 PMand check if cvs is there?
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:47:17 PM:-(
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:47:23 PM:(
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:47:41 PMmy id is not activated
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:47:50 PMdo they have ssh on the csil machines?
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:48:02 PMactually, if none of us can log in i guess we can't check
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:48:49 PMso, if we have 6 or 7 people, does that mean we need to break into 3 groups?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:49:41 PMWasnt a project to be in 2 groups?
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:49:45 PMyes they have ssh on csil
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:49:58 PMdo they have cvs?
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:50:09 PMwhere should i check ?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:50:22 PMlogin in to the csil machines
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:50:26 PMi did
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:50:27 PMtelnet csil-sunb1.cs.uiuc.edu
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:50:34 PMtype cvs
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:51:23 PMyes they have
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:52:54 PMso this is great!!
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:53:09 PMWe can work integrate on the csil machines
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:53:13 PMgood
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:53:40 PMwhat language is distributed monster in?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:53:58 PMWe'll be working with java, jsp and servlets.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:54:03 PMDatabase mysql
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:54:16 PMalso, i have to leave in about 15 minutes so if possible, i would like to have the groups picked by then
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:54:19 PMok, thanks
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20028:55:50 PMnaveed, include me in ur group
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:56:00 PMOk
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:56:11 PMI will work in the first group.
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:56:31 PMi would like to be in the second group
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:56:32 PMSadaf you can be with me.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:56:42 PMWe'll have 2 groups.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:57:01 PMThe first group will set up the cvs system
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:57:16 PMI would like to be in the second group
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:57:34 PMOk cool
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:57:46 PMSo at this moment Sadaf and I are in the first group
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:57:59 PMand Mohammad and Brain are in the 2nd.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:58:01 PMCool
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:58:15 PMthere are two other people that are supposed to be in our team - rahul and cesar. should we just assign each to a team and see if they're still in the class?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:58:28 PMI know Rahul wants to be in the first one.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:58:46 PMSo Cesar can be in the second.
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:58:48 PMthat works. so cesar is with mohammed and i in the second group
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:58:54 PMGood.
Brian Burgner2/2/20028:58:54 PMgreat
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20028:59:11 PMdoes anyone know cesar? does he know about this meeting?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:59:22 PMI guess you can write a bit about
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:59:26 PMDescribe how to make a change to the system Should explain how to utilize the version control system set up by group 1 Simple enough for someone just staring to develop for your project to understand
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20028:59:59 PMCan add some detail once we have setup the cvs
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20029:00:11 PMFro the second part
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20029:00:19 PMDescribe change control policy How bugs are registered How feature requests/suggestions are registered How to decide what features/bug fixes will be implemented next
Brian Burgner2/2/20029:00:23 PMsounds good. until then, we'll have to make some assumptions, but most cvs setups are pretty similar
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20029:01:01 PMThe second part I dont know about since I havent taken many of the lectures yet.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20029:01:29 PMWould appreciate if you mail a rought draft very early.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20029:01:34 PMLike on Monday.
Brian Burgner2/2/20029:02:34 PMi'll see what i can do. the super bowl is tomorrow and i live in st. louis.... shouldn't be too hard to throw something together. mohammed - what time zone are you in?
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20029:02:46 PMcentral... i live near chicago
Brian Burgner2/2/20029:03:07 PMcool. that will make working together easier
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20029:03:17 PMwhat time do you wanna start?
Brian Burgner2/2/20029:04:18 PMmaybe chat from 1 to 2 pm tomorrow?
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20029:04:47 PMi'' email the team for the groups
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20029:04:49 PMhmm... thats a bad time for me. How about in the evening sometime
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20029:04:52 PM?
Brian Burgner2/2/20029:05:33 PMwell, the game will probably go until 9. and i've got mass at 11. maybe 9 am?
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20029:06:06 PM9 sounds good
Brian Burgner2/2/20029:06:32 PMok.
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20029:06:52 PMwhat program do you want to use, Netmeeting, MSN, AOL, etc..?\
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20029:07:32 PMok , i got to go now
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20029:07:43 PMnaveed, i will explore cvs on csil
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20029:07:45 PMOk By
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20029:07:54 PMand let u know about my findings
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20029:07:58 PMbye
Brian Burgner2/2/20029:08:06 PMmsn would work
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20029:08:10 PMgreat
sadaf mumtaz2/2/20029:08:14 PMplease save this chat
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20029:08:23 PMmy email is [email protected]
Mohammed Shabib2/2/20029:09:37 PMbye guys
Brian Burgner2/2/20029:09:41 PMbye
Brian Burgner2/2/20029:09:50 PMnaveed, are you going to save this?
Brian Burgner2/2/20029:10:38 PMi hope so because i'm taking off now as well.
Brian Burgner2/2/20029:10:42 PMsee you all later.
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20029:11:17 PMBy
Naveed Ahmad2/2/20029:11:28 PMAnything else we want to talk about?
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