BIRTH-PARENTS: Extract from the parish register of the Evangelical-Lutheran
parish of Ruedisbronn christenings; 1782; Ludwig Wendel, Neustadt a d Aisch,
Germany; p 48, no 10; letter in poss of G David Dilts, Salt Lake City, UT.MARRIAGE-SPOUSE: Extract from the parish register of the Evangelical-Lutheran
parish of Ruedisbronn marriages; 1811; Ludwig Wendel, Neustadt a d Aisch,
Germany; p 163, no 7; letter in poss of G David Dilts, Salt Lake City, UT.DEATH: Extract from the parish register of the Evangelical-Lutheran parish of
Ruedisbronn burials; 1850; Ludwig Wendel, Neustadt a d Aisch, Germany; p 74,
no 1; letter in poss of G David Dilts, Salt Lake City, UT.
BIRTH-PARENTS: Extract from the parish register of the Evangelical-Lutheran
parish of Ruedisbronn christenings; 1783; Ludwig Wendel, Neustadt a d Aisch,
Germany;; letter in poss of G David Dilts, Salt Lake City, UT.MARRIAGE-SPOUSE: Extract from the parish register of the Evangelical-Lutheran
parish of Ruedisbronn marriages; 1811; Ludwig Wendel, Neustadt a d Aisch,
Germany; p 163, no 7; letter in poss of G David Dilts, Salt Lake City, UT.DEATH: Extract from the parish register of the Evangelical-Lutheran parish of
Ruedisbronn burials; 1853; Ludwig Wendel, Neustadt a d Aisch, Germany; p 79,
no 1; letter in poss of G David Dilts, Salt Lake City, UT.
26. Johann Philipp GREUL or Crile
IMMIGRATION: The clear and convincing evidence showing John P. CRILE buried at the Hope Lutheran Cemetery in Germanville, Jefferson, Iowa is the same person as Johann Philipp GREUL born 17 Mar 1806 in Neusatz, Dobel (OA. Neuenb�rg), W�rttemberg, Germany, is listed below:
FROM RECORDS IN THE UNITED STATES:
From the same gravestone at the Hope Lutheran Cemetery, Germanville, Iowa:
GOTTLEBAN Crile, died 6 Apr 1900, aged 93 years, 6 months
JOHN P. Crile, died 2 Dec 1853, aged 47 years, 1 month, 22 days
From the 1856 Iowa State Census, Jefferson County, Walnut Twp., Family 122:
GOTTLIBIN Greul, age 50, born in W�RTTEMBERG
Beate, age 19, born in Ohio
Emily, age 15, born in Ohio
Jacob, age 13, born in Ohio
Charles, age 10, born in Iowa (other children also listed)
From the 1850 Federal Census of Iowa, Jefferson County, Walnut Township, page 41, family 72:
PHILIP Greuell, age 45, born in Germany
GOTTLEBEHE, age 45, born in Germany
JOHN, AGE 14, BORN IN GERMANY
Beatha, age 12, born in Ohio
Amelia, age 10, born in Ohio
Jacob, age 8, born in Iowa
Charles, age 6, born in Iowa (other children also listed)
From Ann Weenike Yeoman, "Crile Family Reunions 1917-1967," sixth annual picnic/reunion of the Crile family at Fairfield, Iowa, 9 Sep 1933, p.12:
"John P. and Gottliebe Crile both of whom were natives of Germany born in the year 1805. On coming to America the father LOCATED IN MARION COUNTY, OHIO where he lived for eight or nine years. In 1843 he arrived in Jefferson County, Iowa. Settling in Walnut Township . . ."
From the 1840 Federal Census of Ohio, MARION COUNTY, RICHLAND TOWNSHIP, p.70:
J. P. Grile, Males: 5-10 years 1, 30-40 years 1, Females: under 5 years 3, 15-20 years 1, 30-40 years 1.
J. M. Grile, Males: under 5 years 1, 5-10 years 1, 30-40 years 1, Females: under 5 years 1, 5-10 years 1, 20-30 years 1.
From Paul and Barbara Midlam "Tombstone Inscriptions of Marion County, Ohio" page 268, RICHLAND TOWNSHIP, MARION CO., OHIO, No. 90 Klingel Cemetery:
JOHN M. Greul, died 12 Oct 1848, age 44 years, 7 months, 17 days
From Allen L. Potts, "Germans to Marion County, Ohio, and Their Ancestors," page 31, and 144:
GREUL, JOHN MATTHIAS, BORN 25 MAR 1804, NEUSAZ, Wuerttemberg, DIED: 12 OCT 1848, Father: Greul, Joahnn Philipp, Mother: Waker, Regina Rosina, Residence: RICHLAND Township
Greul, Johann Matthias, born 25 Mar 1804, Neusaz, Neuenburg, Wuerttemberg, Father: Johann Philipp Greul, Mother: Regina Rosina WAKER
Greul, Johann Philipp, born 8 Aug 1769, Neusaz, Neuenburg, Wuerttemberg, Father: Johann Philipp Greul, Mother: Maria Christina Bott, Spouse: Regina Rosena WAKER, married 3 Sep 1799 Neusaz, Neuenburg, WuerttembergFROM PARISH RECORDS FOR NEUSATZ, DOBEL (OA.NEUENB�RG), W�RTTEMBERG, GERMANY:
From Bd. 5 Taufen (v. 5 Christenings) 1789-1807, Frame 195 left, page 124: GOTTLIEBEN KULL, born 11 Oct 1806, in Neusatz, Dobel (OA. Neuenb�rg), W�rttemberg, Parents: Johann Christoph Kull and Christina �chtler
From Bd. 12 Ehe Register (v. 12 Marriages) 1808-1849, Frame 272, page 94:
Married 21 Nov 1833, in Dobel (OA. Neuenb�rg), W�rttemberg, Germany to:
From Bd. 5 Taufen (v. 5 Christenings) 1789-1807, Frame 192 left, page 118:
JOHANN PHILIPP GREUL, born 17 Mar 1806, in Neusatz, Dobel (OA. Neuenb�rg), W�rttemberg, Parents: Johann Philipp Greul (1769) and Regina Rosina WACKER
Brother: JOHANN MATTHAES GREUL, born 25 Mar 1804, in Neusatz [From Bd. 5 Taufen (v. 5 Christenings) 1789-1807, Frame 183 right, page 101.]
Together Gottliebe and Johann Philipp (1806) had a son:
JOHANN PHILIPP GREUL, born 15 Sep 1834, in Neusatz [From Bd. 7 Taufen (v. 7 Christenings) 1823-1837, Frame 608, page 151.]The family disappears from the Dobel parish register after 1834. The grandfather's (Johann Philipp born in 1769) family book says he "emigrated to America" and the last entry on the grandfather's family page is for 1833.
!ANALYSIS
The German birth date 11 Oct 1806 of Gottliebin Greul (nee Kull) is only a few days different from the calculated tombstone birth date, 6 Oct 1806, of Gottleban Crile. The birth date of Johann Philipp Greul, 17 Mar 1806, is only about eight months off from the calculated tombstone birth date, 10 Oct 1806.The most convincing evidence of the connection between the Iowa Crile family and the W�rttemberg Greul and Kull families is the presence in Iowa/Ohio records of a son named John who was born in Germany and father John P.'s brother, John M(atthaes). Both are near the same ages of the son and brother in German records. Together in records in close proximity both in Iowa/Ohio and W�rttemberg, the four names: Johann Philipp Greul (1806), Gottliebe Kull, Johann Philipp Greul (1834), and Johann Matthaes Greul leave little room for doubt of the link between Iowa/Ohio and Neusatz, W�rttemberg, Germany.
IMMIGRATION: The clear and convincing evidence showing Gottleban CRILE buried at the Hope Lutheran Cemetery in Germanville, Jefferson, Iowa is the same person as Gottliebe KULL born 11 Oct 1806 in Neusatz, Dobel (OA. Neuenb�rg), W�rttemberg, Germany, is listed below:
FROM RECORDS IN THE UNITED STATES:
From the same gravestone at the Hope Lutheran Cemetery, Germanville, Iowa:
GOTTLEBAN Crile, died 6 Apr 1900, aged 93 years, 6 months
JOHN P. Crile, died 2 Dec 1853, aged 47 years, 1 month, 22 days
From the 1856 Iowa State Census, Jefferson County, Walnut Twp., Family 122:
GOTTLIBIN Greul, age 50, born in W�RTTEMBERG
Beate, age 19, born in Ohio
Emily, age 15, born in Ohio
Jacob, age 13, born in Ohio
Charles, age 10, born in Iowa (other children also listed)
From the 1850 Federal Census of Iowa, Jefferson County, Walnut Township, page 41, family 72:
PHILIP Greuell, age 45, born in Germany
GOTTLEBEHE, age 45, born in Germany
JOHN, AGE 14, BORN IN GERMANY
Beatha, age 12, born in Ohio
Amelia, age 10, born in Ohio
Jacob, age 8, born in Iowa
Charles, age 6, born in Iowa (other children also listed)
From Ann Weenike Yeoman, "Crile Family Reunions 1917-1967," sixth annual picnic/reunion of the Crile family at Fairfield, Iowa, 9 Sep 1933, p.12:
"John P. and Gottliebe Crile both of whom were natives of Germany born in the year 1805. On coming to America the father LOCATED IN MARION COUNTY, OHIO where he lived for eight or nine years. In 1843 he arrived in Jefferson County, Iowa. Settling in Walnut Township . . ."
From the 1840 Federal Census of Ohio, MARION COUNTY, RICHLAND TOWNSHIP, p.70:
J. P. Grile, Males: 5-10 years 1, 30-40 years 1, Females: under 5 years 3, 15-20 years 1, 30-40 years 1.
J. M. Grile, Males: under 5 years 1, 5-10 years 1, 30-40 years 1, Females: under 5 years 1, 5-10 years 1, 20-30 years 1.
From Paul and Barbara Midlam "Tombstone Inscriptions of Marion County, Ohio" page 268, RICHLAND TOWNSHIP, MARION CO., OHIO, No. 90 Klingel Cemetery:
JOHN M. Greul, died 12 Oct 1848, age 44 years, 7 months, 17 days
From Allen L. Potts, "Germans to Marion County, Ohio, and Their Ancestors," page 31, and 144:
GREUL, JOHN MATTHIAS, BORN 25 MAR 1804, NEUSAZ, Wuerttemberg, DIED: 12 OCT 1848, Father: Greul, Joahnn Philipp, Mother: Waker, Regina Rosina, Residence: RICHLAND Township
Greul, Johann Matthias, born 25 Mar 1804, Neusaz, Neuenburg, Wuerttemberg, Father: Johann Philipp Greul, Mother: Regina Rosina WAKER
Greul, Johann Philipp, born 8 Aug 1769, Neusaz, Neuenburg, Wuerttemberg, Father: Johann Philipp Greul, Mother: Maria Christina Bott, Spouse: Regina Rosena WAKER, married 3 Sep 1799 Neusaz, Neuenburg, WuerttembergFROM PARISH RECORDS FOR NEUSATZ, DOBEL (OA.NEUENB�RG), W�RTTEMBERG, GERMANY:
From Bd. 5 Taufen (v. 5 Christenings) 1789-1807, Frame 195 left, page 124: GOTTLIEBEN KULL, born 11 Oct 1806, in Neusatz, Dobel (OA. Neuenb�rg), W�rttemberg, Parents: Johann Christoph Kull and Christina �chtler
From Bd. 12 Ehe Register (v. 12 Marriages) 1808-1849, Frame 272, page 94:
Married 21 Nov 1833, in Dobel (OA. Neuenb�rg), W�rttemberg, Germany to:
From Bd. 5 Taufen (v. 5 Christenings) 1789-1807, Frame 192 left, page 118:
JOHANN PHILIPP GREUL, born 17 Mar 1806, in Neusatz, Dobel (OA. Neuenb�rg), W�rttemberg, Parents: Johann Philipp Greul (1769) and Regina Rosina WACKER
Brother: JOHANN MATTHAES GREUL, born 25 Mar 1804, in Neusatz [From Bd. 5 Taufen (v. 5 Christenings) 1789-1807, Frame 183 right, page 101.]
Together Gottliebe and Johann Philipp (1806) had a son:
JOHANN PHILIPP GREUL, born 15 Sep 1834, in Neusatz [From Bd. 7 Taufen (v. 7 Christenings) 1823-1837, Frame 608, page 151.]The family disappears from the Dobel parish register after 1834. The grandfather's (Johann Philipp born in 1769) family book says he "emigrated to America" and the last entry on the grandfather's family page is for 1833.
!ANALYSIS
The German birth date 11 Oct 1806 of Gottliebin Greul (nee Kull) is only a few days different from the calculated tombstone birth date, 6 Oct 1806, of Gottleban Crile. The birth date of Johann Philipp Greul, 17 Mar 1806, is only about eight months off from the calculated tombstone birth date, 10 Oct 1806.The most convincing evidence of the connection between the Iowa Crile family and the W�rttemberg Greul and Kull families is the presence in Iowa/Ohio records of a son named John who was born in Germany and father John P.'s brother, John M(atthaes). Both are near the same ages of the son and brother in German records. Together in records in close proximity both in Iowa/Ohio and W�rttemberg, the four names: Johann Philipp Greul (1806), Gottliebe Kull, Johann Philipp Greul (1834), and Johann Matthaes Greul leave little room for doubt of the link between Iowa/Ohio and Neusatz, W�rttemberg, Germany.
Farmer.
Sources:
1860-1870 Jefferson Co., TN census.
Family Bible of Bertha Frazier in possession of Mary Bowman, Wichita, KS.
Mrs. Wilford I. (Beulah Denton) Randels, Bluff City, KS.
Mrs. Johnie (Vera Turner) Denton, Ottawa, KS.
Mrs. Julia Frazier Hamlett, Houston, TX.
Elizabeth (Denton) Butterworth, Kansas City, MO.
Marriage record of Margaret Denton and William Frazier.
William Frazier's Will dated 7 JUL 1881, probated NOV 1881, Jefferson, TN.1880 Soundex Census of TN.
Walter Edward Robinson, R#4, Box 441 B, Talbott, TN.
Helen Elizabeth (Frazier) Edwards, Knoxville, TN.Death and burial place variously listed as Knoxville, Knox, Tennessee.
Also variously listed as Margret M. DENTON.
Born: Bible of Bertha Mae Frazier in possession of Mary Bowman, Wichita, KS.
Marr: Same.
Died: Also Vera Cordelia Denton, Ottawa, KS, and Elizabeth Butterworth, Kansas
City, MO. Death and burial also listed as being in Jefferson County, Tennessee
Born: Bible of Bertha Mae Frazier in possession of Mary Bowman, Wichita, KS.
Reneau Family History, Velma Reneau, Anthony, KS.
Vera Cordelia Turner Denton, Ottawa, KS.
Elizabeth Denton Butterworth, Kansas City, MO.
Robert G. Frazier, Wichita, KS.
Marr: Terry McGinnis via Robert G. Frazier.
Died: Same. Death date variously 19 Mar 1861.BIRTH-PARENTS-MARRIAGE-SPOUSE-CHILDREN-DEATH: Guy B. Reno. JOHN RENO AND
SUSANNAH THORN M. NOV. 17, 1737 AND THEIR ISSUE (Rockford, IL: G.B.Reno, 1972;
FHL book 929.273 R295re; film 1697564 item 6) p. 177.BIRTH-MARRIAGE-DEATH-BURIAL: David H. Templin, STORIES IN STONE: JEFFERSON
COUNTY (TENNESSEE) CEMETERIES (Knoxville, Tenn.: Templin, 1986; FHL book
976.8924 V3b) 1:44.MARRIAGE-SPOUSE: Jefferson County (Tennessee). County Court Clerk, MARRIAGE
RECORDS, 1792-1881. Nashville, Tenn.: State Library and Archives, [197-?]. (FHL
film 968301), 110.
Born: Bible of Berth Mae Frazier in possession of Mary Bowman, Wichita, KS.
Vera Cordelia Turner Denton, Ottawa, KS.
Elizabeth Denton Butterworth, Kansas City, MO.
Robert G. Frazier, Wichita, KS.
Marr: #1. Same. Marr: #2. Terry McGinnis via Robert G. Frazier.
Died: Same. Death date variously listed as 14 May 1908.Born: Bible of Bertha Mae Frazier in possession of Mary Bowman, Wichita, KS.
Reneau Family History, Velma Reneau, Anthony, KS.
Vera Cordelia Turner Denton, Ottawa, KS.
Elizabeth Denton Butterworth, Kansas City, MO.
Robert G. Frazier, Wichita, KS.
Marr: Terry McGinnis via Robert G. Frazier.
Died: Same. Death date variously 19 Mar 1861.MARRIAGE-SPOUSE: Jefferson County (Tennessee). County Court Clerk, MARRIAGE
RECORDS, 1792-1881. Nashville, Tenn.: State Library and Archives, [197-?]. (FHL
film 968301), 110; COMMENT: Marriage #1.MARRIAGE-SPOUSE: Jefferson County (Tennessee). County Court Clerk, MARRIAGE
RECORDS, 1792-1881. Nashville, Tenn.: State Library and Archives, [197-?]. (FHL
film 968301), 248; COMMENT: Marriage #2.