Abrogation in the Quran
David Bradly (DB) :
How
many verses are abrogated from the Quran ?
Rahman's answer :
The numbers vary.
This is due to CLASSIFICATION done by scholars
differs in
numbers.
The disctinction
between ABOROGATION and AL AM WAL KHAS in the ARABIC
LANGUAGE is very
fine. Therefore, the number varies
from one scholars
to another.
BUT ALL AGREES
that the ABOROGATION do occur by the verses 16:101 and
many mre.
Pleae read the
Quran and you will see this very clearly.
DB :
Alhamdulillah. The numbers VARY. So Monday, we can abrogate 20 verses but if we feel particularly lazy on Friday, lets abrogate 200.
Since ** ‘This is due to CLASSIFICATION done by scholars differs in numbers.’*** then the scholars of hadith cannot have classified the hadith WITH THE SAME RESULT. Alhamdulillah !
So what does this tell us ? That Hadith 'science' is nothing but imprecise RUBBISH.
The so called ‘AL AM WAL KHAS’ (the general verses and its respective specification) has NOTHING TO DO with this. I’m talking about ABROGATION.
Brothers
and sisters, I present this idea to you of the satanic sunni lunacy which has
plagued itself upon our Deenul Haqq :
1)They
claim the Quran is the primary source – primary source indeed, NOTHING of
satanic sunni religion comes from the Quran.
2)Their
scholars CLASSIFY Quranic verses.(without ANY authority, if they had authority
according to their kufrr ‘science of hadith’ , would they come up with
DIFFERENT answers.
3)Then
their scholars ABROGATE Quranic verses.
And
Rahman , who I asked ‘how many verses’ (note : I didn’t ask Rahman ‘is
there abrogation’ , I asked him ‘HOW MANY verses’) and he answered ‘THE
NUMBERS VARY’
In other words, from scholar ‘a’ to scholar ‘b’, the AHKAAM (body of absolute laws) CHANGES. Scholar ‘a’ abrogated 5 verses, scholar ‘b’ abrogated 500 verses!
Allow me to give you the satanic numbers :
1. Shah Waliullah 5 verses
2.As-Suyuti 20 verses
3.Al-Zuhri 42 verses
4.Al-Nahhas : 138 verses
5.Ibn Salama : 238 verses
6. Ibn 'Ataiqi : 231 verses
7. Al-Farisi : 248 verses.
According to the kafir Ibn Salama , even the COMPANIONS disagreed on abrogation:
Ali said 4.94 was abrogated by 4.115 and 4.48 but Ibn Abbas DISAGREED with this.
So all these scholars and thier esteemed 'knowledge' end up with a hole-and-patch Quran with CANCELLED verses. Bravo Rahman, bravo !
Since for Rahman 'the numbers vary', so maybe on Monday
only 5 verses are abrogated but on Tuesday 500 are abrogated. All depends on the
mood of his satanic scholar !
Rahman's response to Lina :
lina wrote: > salam, > > i am curious, Rahman...pls post here which ayahs were said to be abrogated? > My understanding is that nothing in the Quran is abrogated....each stands > till eternity. >
Here's an example: Order For Night Prayers: Al Muzammil : 1-4; This verse orders that we are to pray AT NIGHT except for a portion of the night. In other words, making it COMPULSORY. But, Al Muzammil:20 and Al Isra':79. This verse ABBOROGATED the order given in Al Muzammil:01-04 by making the order OPTIONAL. Also Al Muzammil ABOROGATED the order to pray with the READING OF THE QURAN. i have other examples but this will do for now: The verses that talks about ABOROGATION of the QURAN is 02:106, 16:101 and Ar Ra'du:39.
DB : Aha, now Rahman says :
73:1-4 is ABROGATED by 73:20 and 17:79.
Let us see if this is in the list of Shah Waliullah , a so called 'scholar' of Sunnism.
2:180 is abrogated by 4:11 and 12
2:240 is abrogated by 2:234
8:65 is abrogated by 8:62
30:50 is abrogated by 33:52
58:12 is abrogated by 58:13
So it's NOT THERE. This Shah Waliullah DOES NOT agree with this abrogation which Rahman mentions. This is what I'm talking about. The sunnis have NO AGREEMENT as to what abrogates what. They are enemies of the Quran and all they desire is to keep the Quran down.