[pf] this is interesting spam (David Mac's definition, not bill S1618)

· 999 times out of 1000 I don't open spam - I can recognise it from the
source and/or the title. This one caught me.

· However, it's actually interesting; here's someone guessing that
distributed generation of electricity is the coming thing.
  They're asking for "expressions of interest" - I have removed the address
to be used for that, since I am not involved in any way with this specific
version - but I thought it interesting that someone (whether in HongKong or
the USA) wanted to test the waters, about people wanting to have sufficient
electricity generation in their own home (or business) that:

 "We will sell the power that you don't use back across the grid as our way
of making money. You get your electricity for free, in exchange for
providing us an access point to the grid."

  A 30 kilowatt generator, with the average US home using (I think) 10 kW
average, would make a nice little earner for the company.

· "We are preparing to bring our revolutionary technology to market soon"
may just mean that it's a gleam in the entrepreneur's eye, at present.
  Or possibly that they plan to approach some manufacturing company (e.g.
Ballard in Vancouver Canada if they'll be using their natural-gas-powered
fuel cells) with an order for multiple units, at a discount.
  Still, it'll take either many years to pay back the loan for capital
cost, or they've got some fancy financing arrangement.

· I've just had a final thought; perhaps they plan to split water into
hydrogen and oxygen with some of that excess electricity, and run their
generator on the hydrogen ("without polluting the environment in any way").
This appears to me as faulty reasoning: imagine the waste product from the
generator (assuming both the electricity and heat will be used), which is
water in the case of hydrogen fuel, all being collected, condensed and fed
back into the electrolysis section that splits it into H2 and O2 again.
Think of all that as a "black box". Even if you feed in more water than
circulates inside, I'm sure it doesn't have anything like the energy
content necessary to put out 30 kW of electricity (plus a lot of heat).
  IMO the version where it gets all its fuel by splitting water with the
output electricity would be one of those "something-for-nothing", perpetual
motion scams. So that can't be the type of generator fuelling plan they're
proposing.

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From: joy_164@excite.com
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Subject: Thought of you
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:39:13 -0700
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... we believe we can eliminate your home energy bills. We are not offering
something for nothing but rather we are offering a fair exchange.

In my area of the country, home energy prices have gone up more than 58% in
the last six months. If you're like me, it is beginning to put a squeeze on
your budget. To make matters worse, there is no end in sight. 

 Our company has been researching new ways to produce electricity since
1987. We are preparing to bring our revolutionary technology to market
soon. It will produce electricity without polluting the environment in any
way.

We plan on putting a 30 kilowatt generator in homes all across America and
Canada. This will be a completely distributed power generation. The unit
will produce far more power than your home will use. You will get to use
the power it produces. We will sell the power that you don't use back
across the grid as our way of making money. You get your electricity for
free in exchange for providing us an access point to the grid. This is the
fair exchange we spoke of.

We would like you to participate in this exciting offer. ...

This message is in compliance with U.S. Federal requirements for commercial
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Thank you for your time,

Joy Jenkins

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David.
(David MacClement) davd@ihug.co.nz 
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