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Re: [pf] Why do people believe these guys? US President & Vice-President
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Re: [pf] Why do people believe these guys? US President & Vice-President.
by Arnie Anfinson
02 June 2001 21:51 UTC
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At 07:25 AM 6/3/01 +1200, David MacClement wrote:

>· This e-mail is about a couple of paragraphs at the end of one of those
>early-May news reports:
>http://ens.lycos.com/ens/may2001/2001L-05-03-04.html .
>
>· The article says:
>   “Vice President Dick Cheney, a former oil company executive who heads the
>energy team, said earlier this week that the country cannot rely on
>conservation and renewable energy to feed its energy needs.
>   "What the Vice President and I understand," Bush said today, "is that you
>cannot conserve your way to energy independence. We can do a better job in
>conservation, but we darn sure have to do a better job of finding more
>supply. It is naive for the American people and its - and those who purport
>to speak for the American people, some of those - to say that we can be
>okay from an energy perspective by only focusing on conservation. We've got
>to find additional supplies of energy."”
>
>· Many of you reading this (and I include those who don't post) will
>believe that those are the only two options.
>
>· If it wasn't that I guess Bush actually believes what I quote him as
>saying, I would call this another example of:
>
>  . . . . . . The Big Lie.
>
>· That is, influential people repeating a statement often enough that
>"everyone" accepts its truth.
>
>· It simply _isn't_true_.
>
>· _Constant_ energy supply (_no_ "additional supplies of energy") is
>certainly an option, while the population changes little.
>   And IMO, the obvious option, given how much interference with the world
>energy supply creates currently.
>
>· Further, _I_ have the "radical" belief that the US _reducing_ its energy
>supply from its current highly excessive amount is necessary for an
>approach to a sustainable future. (I gave the URL of a graph illustrating
>how excessive it is, e.g. in comparison with Europe, some time ago.)
>
>
>· Where do Americans get the idea that their way of life has to continue;
>using more and more of just about everything?
>
>· We all, Americans as well, live on a round globe; we know most of what
>there is here on earth. It's obvious to _everyone_ that there are limits,
>and if the US wants more and more, it means (later if not right now), that
>other people and other living things are trying to make do with less and less.
>
>· There are only a few cases, mainly energy, where more and more is
>possible, but that's _only_ by using the huge amount of _solar_ energy
>arriving free at the earth's surface. There are limits to that, but they
>are a very long way off compared with almost everything else that
>Americans, like babies, want more and more of.
>
>· Too bad if you're offended - it has to be said.

David Mac is RIGHT ON.  I'm not at all offended; I'm just very much 
disappointed that we Americans are unwilling (or unable -- as in 
"addiction") to accept that our lives can be better as we move toward 
Quality of Life by finding the top of our "fulfillment curve" 
(YMoYL).  Drugs [where many go when they find STUFF doesn't `do it' for 
them]  are not answer fill our emptiness, our feelings of lack of meaning!

Arnie


>David.
>(David MacClement) davd@ihug.co.nz
>http://www.geocities.com/davd.geo/index.html#top
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