Re: [pf] (1) gifts: bad?

>At 11:24 AM 1/4/00 -0800, David MacClement wrote:
>> .. what one person does for others is in the nature of a gift, such as
>>washing the dishes, ... being willing to listen immediately ...
>
At 18:48 4/01/00 -0800, tully wrote:
>Indeed these are gifts, and are so often taken for granted. ...
>
**  Thanks for the confirmation; it was a new idea for me.


>[tully: ]              ...  My appreciation of food is 
>so minimal that I am happier to just put some water on to boil and eat 
>some 
>instant grits with butter... I know I am letting my head rule over my 
>heart 
>and am depriving myself of the emotional/soul satisfactions that the 
>preparation and eating of good food can be. ...

**  I don't know about special satisfactions, but I do know that I got real
satisfaction from getting all parts of a (fairly simple) meal onto the
table at the same time, each item cooked just right (i.e. just enough).
When that was ignored, I got angry. 


[David: ]
>>I'd much prefer to sit in a deckchair watching the sun set, and 
>>I don't get a charge out of talking to friends.
>
[tully: ]
>I trust you'll forgive my rudeness when I say that I don't buy this for 
>one 
>minute, David.  I recognize a kindred soul when I experience one and you 
>can't tell me that if you and I were sitting face to face on that deck 
>that we couldn't talk delightedly for days on end.  I mean, puleeeze.  ;)
>
>            ... a fault you and I both share.  We let our heads rule us.
>  We analyze too much.  We forget that there is a heart, with feelings 
>that can be as much an experience as our thoughts.  We both must start 
>recognizing what those feelings are telling us, David. 

** You're right, and I'm learning some of this in spending time with Ruth.


> ... Our minds are ego and not real. 
**  I don't actually agree, here.

> Our hearts are the only things that are real.  Feelings are real. 
> Feelings interpreted by mind are badly corrupted.  I challenge you 
>as I am challenging myself.  Shut off the head and start listening to the 
>heart.  We are both uneducated and ignorant in this realm.  You could 
>start 
>by trying to answer what it is about that sunset you are watching above 
>that makes you appreciate it.  Admit it, it's more than just the colors, 
>isn't it?  ;}
>With love to a kindred soul and friend, tully

**  You're so right. I'm learning, and I don't think it's too late.

With love to you too.  David





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