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GENEALOGY Friends: we have two parents four grand-parents eight great-grand-parents. Each of them has a story or is part of a story
ruled by the odds of surviving:
Since by the 8th generation of great-grand-parents you
have 1.024
direct grand-parents, then 2.048... 4.096 etc, then you must remember: Let the spirit of adventure,which guided these ancestors, and their own experiences, help you achieve more every day. BLAIS* - BOUCHER* - CASAVANT - CATALORGNE - CHAGNON - CHAPUT - CHOUTEAU- COTE -CYR - DAMOURS - DEMERS - DION - DORVAL - DROUIN - http://www.geocities.com/daniellla.geo/duval77.html DUVAL - GODBOUT - GUYON - LACLEDE - LEMIRE - LEMYRE - LESAGE - MARSOLET - MIREAULT - PAPIN* - PARIZEAU - PHILIE - ROUSSIN - ST-AIGNAN - TOUCHETTE
CHOUTEAU - PAPIN_________________________________________________St-Louis, Missouri_________________________________________________People living in St.Louis,c.1650-1800 On the families of: Atchison, Baronet, Besnard, Bourgjoly, Bourgeoys, Brazeau, Carignan, Carrière, Cerré, Chaperon, Chauvin, Chouteau, Deaver, de Maisonneuve, Duchouquet, Dupré, Guèvremont, Guichard, Haye, Jetté, Lafayette, Lagneau, Larkin, La Sonde, Lavignon, Leduc, Loisel, Loysel, Masure, Papin, Pare, Pelletier, Pépin, Racette, Vasquez, Villeray.
__________________________________________________________  Between the years 1740 to 1800, when St-Louis, on the Mississippi, was still a French settlement of "la Nouvelle-France" (New-France), many French Canadians from Quebec chose to emigrate to this city rather than swear allegiance to England. The personal story of some of them can thrill our hearts. Our traumas and beliefs are often the same as theirs were; who does not identify with Evangeline, a true story which Longfellow immortalized, undauntingly searching the continent for the one she loved? Is not her courage also ours? Nowadays, many search for their roots in the past. Though I believe that, in the end, we are all close family, I also spend some of my time in this pursuit. A little further, I have a query which some people might have an answer for.
Marie-Louise Chouteau, born in St-Louis, PIERRE LACLEDE had received in 1762 an eight year monopoly for the Fur Trade of the Missouri region and was planning to use Fort de Chartres as a base for his operations. He had to change his plans when the end of the war in Europe brought a Treaty involving France, England and Spain, changing the borders in the American colonies, and founded St.Louis instead (named for LOUIS XV) Pierre Laclede and Auguste Chouteau had searched the Western bank of the Mississipi for a suitable site for a fort to care for the Missouri Fur Trade. After Louisianna was added to the United States, Rene-Auguste Chouteau became one of the Justices of the Territorial Court and after
He and his brother Jean-Pierre Chouteau were Yes, in 1779, Marie-Louise Chouteau married one of my family, namely Joseph-Marie(2) Papin born in 1741. Marie-Louise had a courageous mother who braved the elements with her youngest son (Jean-Pierre) by coming on a raft, pregnant with Marie-Louise and Victoire, all the way from New-Orleans. At the end of this article is the list of the names of the thirteen children of Joseph-Marie Papin and Marie-Louise Chouteau.
Joseph-Marie(2) Papin (baptized in Montreal on November 10, 1741) was the son of Joseph(1) Papin (born in Montreal around 1713) and Marguerite Pépin, who was from Saint Louis; they were married in 1740 and lived in the vicinity of St.Louis, which was not as yet existant. An interesting fact is that Joseph(1) had a niece living in Saint Louis: Marie-Julie Baronet-Papin, baptized in Montreal on September 4, 1754 who married Benoit Vasquez ( from St Louis Mo.) in 1774. She was the 13th/out of 16 children of Pierre Papin, dit Baronet, born in 1709 and married in 1737 to Catherine Guichard (daughter of Jean Guichard, dit La Sonde). Pierre was the 5th child, and Joseph(1) was the 6th child of Gilles Papin [Gilles was baptized on March 4 1669 in Montreal, son of Pierre Papin (b.1631 in La Fleche, France) and Anne Pelletier (daughter of Mathurin Pelletier et Catherine Lagneau, both living c. 1600 in St-Pierre de Dreux, in France)] and his first wife Marie-Francoise Chaperon, daughter of Pierre Chaperon of Rouen, France, and Noelle Guèvremont from St-Denis, Evêché de Paris ( both born c. 1645).
Pierre Papin (b.1631) was the son of Francois Papin &
MichelleLagneau, both living at St-Nicolas-du-Sable, Maine, La
Fleche, France. In 1653, on the ship, the Notary Belliotte "assermented" Pierre and he received 107£ as payment for his future services to the colony.
In 1655, M. de Maisonneuve, in the name of the "Compagnie
Notre-Dame de Montreal", gave him land near "la Pointe-aux-Trembles"
(in Montreal). In 1665, twelve years after his arrival, he
married Anne Pelletier, 19 years old, and they had 8 surviving children,
but after their Mother died in December 1686, four died before
reaching their
teens.
- Gilles (b.1669)
For Gilles Papin, the second son, the tragedy of losing his
Mother, at
17, and later his siblings must have had an impact on his
future
choices. For one thing we know that when he was left with
six
children, widowed from Marie-Francoise Chaperon, he was
re-married
within two years, in 1715, to Marie-Josephe Besnard, and
this second
wife gave him another 9 children which were ill-fated
also.(see
further down)
______________________________________________________________ 1. Francois Papin (b. c.1600) & Michelle Lagneau ( La Flèche, France) 2. Pierre Papin (b.1631) & Anne Pelletier (Montreal, PQ) 3. Gilles Papin (b.1669) & 1st wife: Marie-Francoise Chaperon (Montreal, PQ) 4. Joseph(1) Papin (c.1713) & Marguerite Pepin (St Louis,MO) 5. Joseph-Marie(2)Papin (b.1741) & Marie-Louise Chouteau (St Louis, MO) 6. Théodore Papin (b.1799) & Céleste Duchouquet (St Louis, MO) 7. Marie Papin (b.1823) & Georges W. Atchison (St. Louis, MO)
A ladder showing the parents of the wife of Pierre: 1. Mathurin Pelletier (b.c.1620) & Catherine Lagneau (St-Pierre de Dreux, France) 2. Anne Pelletier (b.1646) & Pierre Papin (Montreal, PQ) 3. Gilles Papin (b.1669) & 1st wife: Marie-Francoise Chaperon (Montreal, PQ) 4. Joseph(1) Papin (c.1713) & Marguerite Pépin (St Louis,MO) 5. Joseph-Marie(2)Papin (b.1741) & Marie-Louise Chouteau (St Louis, MO) 6. Hyppolite Papin (b.1788) & Joséphine Loysel (St Louis, MO) 7. Louise-Anne Papin (b.1817) & Eugène-Charles Dupré (St Louis, MO)
Ladder showing the parents of the 1st wife of Gilles: 1. Pierre Chaperon (b. c.1645) & Noelle Guevremont (Paris, France) 2. Marie-Francoise Chaperon & Gilles Papin (Montreal, PQ) 3. Joseph(1) Papin (c.1713) & Marguerite Pépin (St Louis,MO) 4. Joseph-Marie(2)Papin (b.1741) & Marie-Louise Chouteau (St Louis, MO) 5. Sylvestre Papin (b.1794) & Clémentine Loisel (St Louis, MO) 6. Clémentine S.Villeray Papin (b.1818) & Léopold Carrière (St. Louis, MO)
Ladder showing the parents of the 2nd wife of Gilles: 1. Monsieur LaFayette, tue par les Iroquois en 1695( France) 2. Marguerite Haye ou LaFayette & Joseph Besnard-Carignan, sieur de Lavignon & Bourgjoly (Mtl, PQ) 3. Gilles Papin (b.1669) & 2nd wife: Marie-Josephe Besnard (Montreal, PQ) 4. Joseph a.k.a. Orphée Papin (b.1730) & Thérèse Paré (Montreal, PQ) 5. Louis-Basile Papin (b.1765) & Marie-Louise Jetté (Montreal, PQ) 6. Basile Papin (b.1786) & 1st wife: Marie-Josephte Pichon-Toulouse (Montreal, PQ) 7. Justine Papin (b.1818) & Jos.-Nicaise Lemire-Marsolet (L'Assomption,PQ)
_____________________________________________________________ These children were half-brothers and half-sisters to Joseph(1) Papin (born c.1713). As I said before, one must remember History: these were the mixed years when so many people fled Canada, their homeland, rather than swear allegiance to England. Many went to the West Indies (Martinique, Guadeloupe), others went back to France where they still had family ties and property, and some went to St. Louis, for it was mostly French until the turn of that century, as they might have family or friends there. Marie-Josephe Besnard was daughter of Joseph Besnard-Carignan, sieur de Lavignon et sieur de Bourgjoly, and Marguerite Haye ou Lafayette whose father came from Clermont en Auvergne, in France, and died in 1695 "tué par les Iroquois" (in a Mohawk attack).
1. Joseph(3), born January 23 1780 and baptized July 2 1780 2. Marguerite, baptized 1781; married 1802 to Philippe Leduc Saint Louis Mo. 3. Alexandre, baptized 1783; married to Julie Brazeau. Their children married with Masure, Larkin, Deaver(?) families, all from St Louis; their sixth child Aimee-Henriette, born on March 15 1828 was baptized on April 13 1831. 4. Marie-Thérèse, baptized May 16, 1784 5.Marie-Louise, baptized June 5 1786. 6.Hyppolite, baptized 1788; married to Josephine Loysel ; their eldest daughter Louise-Anne, baptized in 1817, married in 1837 Eugène-Charles Dupré, St Louis Mo 7. Pélagie, baptized July 4 1790 (Pélagie is a girl's name ) 8. Sophie, born in 1791, baptized in 1795 9. Pierre, baptized August 4, 1793 10.Sylvestre, born in 1794; married in 1817 to Clementine Loisel. Their daughter Marie-Clementine-Sylvestre-Villeray Papin, born in 1818, married Leopold Carriere in 1838, St Louis 11.Emélie, baptized in 1796; married François Chauvin in 1816 12. Didier, baptized in 1798; married Catherine Cerré 13. Théodore, born January 11 1799, baptized May 12 1803 married in 1822 Céleste Duchouquet. Their daughter, Marie, baptized June 15 1823, married Georges W. Atchison on the 25th of April 1839.
TIDBITSRegis died in New Orleans in 1804 and his wife, Helene Chauvin, married Francois Lebeau. The children of Régistre and Hélèene were Josephine, Clementine and Registre Loisel who became a priest and removed to Cahokia. The children of Sylvestre Papin and Clementine Loisel were: Marie-Clementine (dame Leopold Carriere). Timothy who was an M.D and married 3 times 1* Mary Garland 2* Marguerite Brent 3* Lida Yarnall (His children, from 3 marriages were: Vilrey (Villeray), Mary C John and Timothy, Lida, Loisel (sic), Henry,(?) Fisette or Finestre ????) Theophile Papin who married twice Julie Henri and Emilie Carlin It is interesting that Emilie (Chouteau) Papin, b.1796, sister in law of Josephine and Clementine (full sister of Hyppolite and Sylvestre) married Francis Da Vinci Chauvin. Régistre was the son of Régis and Manette Massin, from L'Assomption in Québec. I believe that Regis and Manette were both fresh from France, and were married there, but I am not 100% sure... In those days it was legal to marry at 12, and 13 was not unusual, and so it was with Theodore Papin's child Marie who married twice, first to a Doctor(M.D.) Grats Moses, then in 1839 to G.W. Atchison. Their children were George, Henri, and Louise Atchison. Louise married C. Brent Carr is correct, On Shaw and Bradshaw: Joseph, the first son of Joseph Papin and Marie-Louise Chouteau, born in St.Louis June 8 1780 died there in April 1850 and was married to the widow Bradshaw on Feb.15 1830. (I am not sure of her first name or maiden name). They had three children, I am quite sure, though I do not have their names Sophie Shaw, on the other hand, was the wife of Joseph Papin, first son of Hypolite Leber Papin and Josephine Loysel. I do not think they had children, but I am not sure. I do not know how long Pierre Millicour Papin, son of Joseph and Marie, lived. I thought he died as an infant. There was a Pierre Millicour Papin who married Marie de Moulins, son of Hyppolite and Josephine.... They had nine or ten children: Auguste, Edward, Alphonse, William, Robert, Joseph, Pierre, Sylvester, Masette (dame Charles Shroup), Marie (dame W.B.Colburn) Letter and inquiries the sole responsibility of: Danielle Duval LeMyre
"Cousin, cousine, à ta santé!" "Cousin, to your good health!" Danielle I would welcome your genealogical in-put, whether in general, or on your early family ,to include any pertinent fact here. :) We are part of our ancestors, as they are part of us.
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