Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:34:44 -0700 From: Bob Sutterfield Subject: Re: low dust pads MTamanini@aol.com wrote: > I need to replace the brake pads on my 90 525i > and my 94 740i. I really want to find low dust > pads. I saw a post some time ago with some > recommendations. Any ideas? I really like Repco/PBR/Axxis Deluxe for the street. Very low dust, effective for street driving (good grip when cold), pretty durable in normal street use. I haven't worn out a set yet. You might also try the Porterfield R4S, but I have never used them. But they're poorly suited for the track because they're not very durable at high temperatures. On the track, try Performance Friction 90, Porterfield R4, or maybe Repco/PBR/Axxis Metalmaster. You can get the PF90 and R4 at http://www.porterfield-brakes.com or your E34. They only stock the R4 and R4S for your E38. - -- Bob Sutterfield '87 E30 325iS BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:05:43 -0500 From: Robert Jackowitz Subject: RE: [E36M3] the perennial track pad thread! > R4's? PF90's? > Mike, You'll likely be equally as happy with either. I've used both and they both fit the bill...no fade. I use the R4's now because they work pretty well on the street (decent cold stopping, no rattles) when I'm too lazy to swap pads (often). Rob '97 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:51:14 -0800 From: "Bradley J. Otoupalik" Subject: brake pads I have to take exception to one of Sean's two pads. The PF-90's are awesome. However, the R4 is not! This pad becomes very mushy when pushed hard and heated up. They also do not last very long. This is my experience on both an e30 M3 and an e36 LTW. The other pad that is top notch is the Pagid Orange. The Pagid Orange and the PF90 are about equal on all counts. They cost a little more, but they last a long time, are easy on rotors and STOP, i mean STOPPPP the car! Just my experience! Brad Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:52:43 -0800 From: Kit Wetzler Subject: race pads. > let me try to save you some shopping around effort. the two best race pads > are performance friction pf-90 and porterfield R4. The Hawk Blue is better than the R4in my opinion... the R4 is much harder to modulate and tends to crumble when overheated... (killed a set of Laguna, good thing I had my 1/3 left worn out hawks with me...) The blues are under $200 for front and rear, much cheaper than the Porterfields. (of course this doesn't take into account the E36 list discount, which I didn't know about until just now, but the blues are still cheaper) the blues are harder on rotors when they're cold, but not much. -kit -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:00:53 -0800 From: Kit Wetzler Subject: rotors > I've got second-hand experience with the Hawk Blues (Hi Donna! :-)). Donna's > got them on her E30 M3, and the Hawks wore down the rotors quickly - the gas > slots were wore flat after 2 events (Buttonwillow & Sears - not huge braking > tracks). But they do stop well; I drove her car at parade-lap speeds (all > she'll allow me ) I have a set of Hawk Blues... As Jim and Donna can both attest to, I'm a pretty late braker and am hard on brakes. I've now done 8 track days on one set of Hawk Blues and they are still going strong. And, my first set of rotors lasted 15K street miles and those same 8 track days... not bad! The blues wear rotors REALLY fast when they're cold. They're very friendly once up to temp... the solution? drive faster! ;) hahah Jim, I bet you did more damage to the rotors in line and during that parade session... I drove to Thunderhill with my blues (and R1As) and, aside from the backache, killed my rotors... :( -kit, about to be pummeled... 97 m3