Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:40:11 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake pads How spirited is your driving? I have PBR Deluxe pads on my '95 M3. They are totally dust free. I can go weeks between washing my wheels. With the stock pads, my wheels got dusty just backing out of the garage. However, the PBR Deluxe are only good for one hard stop and then they fade. For commuting and most driving, I think they are fine. They are cheap and stop pretty good in my opinion. I think they are a little grabby but I like that. Step on the brakes and "thunk" your head hits the windshield. They might squeal some. I put mine on without brake goop or backing plates and I get a little squeal. If you do autocross, the PBR are OK for that. An autocross is not long enough to fade the brakes. I autocross with my PBR Deluxe. But do NOT consider track driving with them. You won't make the first lap. Jim Powell claims to have done a driving school with them. How I don't know. Must have been an oval track Only JAP could do it. If you want dustless, you can't get more dust free than PBR Deluxe. Just be careful and avoid long periods of high speed braking. Lowell Seaton '95 M3/2 Dallas, Texas BMW CCA #131505