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/ Topic > Re: In Search of the First Prophet /
/ Forum > TheologyOnLine - General Theology /
/ Newsgroup > alt.bible.prophecy / 14Jan2002 /
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>> textman previously wrote: <snip> Even as late as 20,000 years ago, the sole surviving hominids (homo sapiens) were still living in a timeless world that moved in circles with the natural cycles of the seasons and the heavens. But populations grew as horticulture expanded into agriculture (plow culture), and with this major advance in food production came all the elements that propel us out of the haziness of pre-history into the murky dawn of recorded history: the gradual change over from Neolithic culture and technology (c.6000-4500BCE) to metal working (mining, smelting, casting) with the Copper Age (c.4500-3200), the appearance of cities (which allowed for a greater division of labor, and the protection and defense of the population), and (most importantly to historians) the early development of writing (ie. pictographic symbols representing objects and ideas, and later on, sounds). <snip>
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> On 14Jan Zakath asketh: But if "the first recorded event
> of human history" didn't take place until 4236 BCE, how
> is it the author claims to have historical knowledge of
> all these other events and developments?
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 textman answers: Hi, Zakath. Of course we have knowledge of significant events and developments prior to the Copper Age. These events are either suggested or deduced from the fossils and artifacts found in the cold dark ground, and dated by various techniques. The only problem is that when you're dealing with events that happened millions (or even just thousands) of years ago, it's impossible to be precise as to the exact year (or even decade). That's why we acknowledge our ignorance about the human story by referring to the bulk of the past as prehistory. The only essential difference between history and prehistory is that when we get closer to the present we are better able to fix dates to events with ever-increasing precision.
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> I think the author is stretching a bit to make his/her
> point about the importance of calendars. -- Zakath
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 Not at all. It's perfectly natural for cultures based on agriculture to have a vital interest in the regulated behavior of the sun and other celestial objects (ie. as they pertain to the yearly cycle of sowing, planting, growing, and harvesting). Most of the great civilizations of the ancient world developed some form of calendar out of their intensive studies of the heavens. Even things like Stonehenge are really little more than an elaborate and impressive calendar or time-keeping machine.
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                                 - the one who over-simplifies somewhat -- textman ;>
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/ Topic >  Re: First Prophet-2 /
/ Forum >  TheologyOnLine - General Theology /
/ Newsgroup > alt.bible.prophecy / 15Jan2002 /
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> On 14Jan PENIEL wrote: CON-TEXT MAN CONTEXT
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 textman answers: huh?
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> Well I'll be a Monkey's Uncle if it isn't an Evolutionist.
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 I knew there was a reason why I like bananas.
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> Aren't you in the Wrong Section?
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 Don't think so.
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> Try Evolution / Creation Section.
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 This essay isn't about evolution, PENIEL, so there's really
no point in moving it over there. However, if TOL ever decides
to create a bible study or prophecy forum, I'd be more than
happy to post all my postings there ...
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> On 15Jan someone wrote: Textman...
> That is very interesting.
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 Thx, someone. It gets even more interesting from here on ...
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> On 15Jan PENIEL wrote: GOBBLEDEGOOK
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 Wut?
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> TEXTMAN
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 Wut?
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> Do NOT wast our time with this GARBAGE .
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 What does "wast" mean?
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> Amen means May it be so. From the Greek and Hebrew. Amon
> is a TOTALLY different Name. From Egyptian and Chaldean.
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 Speaking of bananas ... Sorry, PENIEL, but I think that
the ancient Egyptians have a better claim to their own
names than you do.
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> TEXTMAN
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 Yes?
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> TESTMAN
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 Who?
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> YOUR TESTING OUR PATIENCE MAN.
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 But that's what prophets are for!
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> CLEAN UP YOU ACT AND GET A LIFE - BOY !!!
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 My cyber-ministry *IS* my life, sport; get used to it.
And speaking of cleaning up you act: Is your caps-lock key
on the fritz, or what? Boy, talk about annoying ... 
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> On 15Jan someone wrote: Peniel ...
> You might be a monkey's uncle and are not aware of it.
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 It seems that there's quite a lot he's not aware of. This
is what comes from talking when one should be listening.
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- one who does both at the same time - textman ;>
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P.S. "Not many of you should presume to be teachers, because you
know that we who teach will be judged more strictly."  -- James 3:1
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