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Donjaber: Whats up Gus
Donjaber: guys
RaginAznXX: Hi
gggusss: whats up guys im eatin rite now, ill
be done in a min
Donjaber: ok
Donjaber: Yo Gus, are the twins coming
online?
gggusss: yea im callin em rite now
gggusss: k, they r comin
Donjaber: cool
Donjaber: did you do your part of the
assignment man?
gggusss: im typin rite now
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gggusss: i just needed to expand, elaborate,
on the manager interface right?
joeino02: use an example or get into specifics
RaginAznXX: Heya
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Donjaber: I have put the chat we had on the
website, you were supposed to work with
Rich on the manager functionality
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joeino02: damn ESC button
Donjaber: to complement what he had written
in the assignment 3 link
Donjaber: its all good
gggusss: yea, i read it, so i took what u guys
had so far on the manager functionality and
added a lil bit more explanation
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Donjaber: now you have to link it up under
your name on the website
Donjaber: whats up Joe, Michael, you guys
did the employee part?
joeino02: we got patron stuff
Donjaber: my bad
Donjaber: yeah patron
GumbaGioino: lol
joeino02: np
Donjaber: did you link it up yet?
GumbaGioino: not yet
joeino02: no cuz i dont know how to yet
Donjaber: you dont know html, or you dont
know how we managed the files in the
geocities website?
joeino02: i can just barely do the html need to
know how to manage files
Donjaber: the next message i send you will
contain an html code that you should use to
link stuff up...
Donjaber:
<html><head><title>Joe</title></head><b
ody><a href="yourfile.doc">What ever you
want to call your link</a></body></html>
Donjaber: This will create a simple link on a
blank page, it will show "What ever you
want to call your link" and will link to...
Donjaber: ... "yourfile.doc" that you will
upload in the "personal" folder in "joseph"
folder.
Donjaber: you guys should have brought that
up not tonight but before hand
Donjaber: we were supposed to have
everything done by 10, so that we could
work something out to consolidate all of our
document. As I have to study tonight for an
exam tomorrow and homeworks for
wednesday, I will not able to do so...
joeino02: oh...
Donjaber: one of us will have to do the rest of
the assignment tonight
joeino02: mainly the schedule right?
Donjaber: Richard will be coming at 11
RaginAznXX: I'm typing it up right now.
RaginAznXX: Almost done.
Donjaber: Schedule, yeah, and put every
parts together in a consistent format
joeino02: k
Donjaber: meaning that it wont be copy
pasting what everybody did.
Donjaber: It will have to abide to what she
has asked us in the assignment too
Donjaber: Yo guys, next time get it done on
time, we are losing precious time now, and it
is all due tomorrow, leaving much stress to
the person who has to put it all together
RaginAznXX: Uploading now
Donjaber: cool cool
GumbaGioino: dude u just got rid of the main
page!
Donjaber: you can send it to email. it doesnt
seem to want to download
Donjaber: nah it doesnt want to download
joeino02: ok i emailed it
Donjaber: ok
Donjaber: thanks
Donjaber: back on track
RaginAznXX: Sorry about that guys.
Donjaber: dont worry
RaginAznXX: I'll be more careful next
time.
Donjaber: next time guys, I cant emphasize
enough, back up the previous webpage
before any change
Donjaber: It's really not that bad man
Donjaber: did you guys all upload your files?
GumbaGioino: yea
joeino02: about to
Donjaber: Yo Jason, in your description you
talk about photoshop and all, which is all
good, but make it look as simple as possible
at first, no font colors, no photoshopping,
we will then make it look good by linking it
all up to CSS...
RaginAznXX: Yeah, I know.
Donjaber: ...but only when we have the dead
time for that. We want to make it all
functional before making it look beautiful.
RaginAznXX: I'll do the PS only if I have
time, which I'm kind of doubting.
Donjaber: I have that same thing too. I want
to make things look good, but I learned
where I am working, they need to make
things work and then worry about the looks
and feel. Time is money
RaginAznXX: Photoshop takes a lot of
time. With other work to do, it took me
a while just to get the logo done.
gggusss: uploagin mine
Donjaber: where is the details guys
Donjaber: are*
Donjaber: I dont see Joe's link
RaginAznXX: Details?
Donjaber: did you look up mine?
RaginAznXX: Yeah
Donjaber: I even started talking about the few
objects I anticipate in the employee
functionality. Hopefully this will all be
enough for a good grade for this assignment,
but dont expect it to be enough for the
upcoming ones
gggusss: mine's up
RaginAznXX: I thought it was either-or.
Donjaber: either-or?
RaginAznXX: Either a link to an existing
webpage and your description of it, or
your own details on the functionality.
Donjaber: J, both our work is
complementary, so dont worry about it
much. you have the links which I have not.
What I am trying to make you guys
understand is that, we are expecting about
100pages documentation, and 6000 lines of
code...
Donjaber: ...as I have surveyed a few past
projects.
Donjaber: It might be less, but we will have to
put up lots of work
Donjaber: I hate to sound negative all the
time, but this might not be a cake walk.
RaginAznXX: Yeah...
Donjaber: I have put this class on my top
priority this year. I have a midterm
tomorrow, that I havent studied for yet, so I
could take care of this class and my work
gggusss: ok, so plz some 1 read what i did
and just tell me if i should be more
descriptive or not
Donjaber: I even anticipated not to take
another computer class alongside of this
one. I dont mean to be negative once more,
I just want to make this class an important
one for you guys, cause it will not only be
your grades that will be ...
Donjaber: ...into play. I am not coming up
with what I am saying because of something
that happened, but to prevent something that
could happen
Donjaber: Gus, I dont remember what rich
wrote about a manager, but it looks like a
manager and an employee will have about
the same functionalities. Which is the case in
reality with the manager having more control
then the employee
Donjaber: because your description looks a
lot like the employee which J and I worked
on
gggusss: hmmm....true
joeino02: ok erik we dont wanna hold u up
cuz its late
gggusss: let me ask you a question, are we
includin scheduling/payroll stuff for the
system
Donjaber: about documentation Joe, even
though a coder knows his coding best and
that he would be the best person to
document it, documentation will all depend
on who and what is the most efficient way to
go about it...
joeino02: i think documenting as we go is
efficient
Donjaber: somebody might have a lot of
coding to do whereas another is done with
his task or doesnt have one assigned to him,
and will have to make documentation for
that other coder. Plus it is the best way for
someone else to learn what...
Donjaber: someone else has done
Donjaber: yes and no
Donjaber: it all depends on the work load
RaginAznXX: It's less messy to separate
the documentation process from the
coding process.
RaginAznXX: Unless you're talking about
inline comments.
Donjaber: there is a difference between
documenting coding and documenting
project too
RaginAznXX: That too.
joeino02: i agree but for a default we should at
least comment on our code as we go
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Donjaber: if you are talking inline, sure, but
like J said, it would not be efficient for you
for example, to code a small module, and
have to write 10 page documentation for it
and go to the next module
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Donjaber: as important as documentation is,
just like making the interface beautiful, we
have to make the whole thing functional as
much as possible beforehand
joeino02: just the inlines
Donjaber: yeah
Donjaber: make sure*
Donjaber: It will all depend on workload, and
everyone will have documentation to do
joeino02: yep
joeino02: i also wrote the manual can come
toward the end
joeino02: just meant the little things can be
done as we go
joeino02: ie inline comments
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joeino02: sbu connection ?
Donjaber: the network seems to be bugging
out
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Donjaber: Yeah, anyways, as we go along
things will get clearer, and assignments will
be clearer too (hopefully). We should just
expect from one another to pick up a task if
none is assigned, even if it is documentation
gggusss: well said
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RaginAznXX: Okay
Donjaber: true
joeino02: rich signed on so i gave him the
invite
gggusss: so its rich online?
gggusss: cool
joeino02: maybe hes pretending to still be afk
Donjaber: no answer
Donjaber: Anyways guys, we have no time to
wait for rich right now. We need to know
who will volunteer to consolidate everything
we wrote down, consistently to what the
professor asked of us
RaginAznXX: I'll do it, but let me look at
what she asked for again, to make
sure I didn't miss anything.
Donjaber: cool J. we all appreciate that
RaginAznXX: I just want to make sure I'm
going to do it right.
RaginAznXX: How are we going to
handle the schedule?
Donjaber: we have to talk more about it
though
RaginAznXX: Okay.
joeino02: should we do a schedule for the
next say 2 or 3 weeks only
Donjaber: what I know from now, database
and html will be done in parallel
joeino02: or for whole semester
RaginAznXX: She needs a complete
schedule.
Donjaber: Well, I dont think it has to be a
schedule with weeks and days, but more or
less the order of the tasks we will have to
do. It will always be better if we can
estimate the times but I dont think it can kill
us if we dont
gggusss: lets talk about weeks then
Donjaber: project wise, for the first part of
coding, for sure we will have database
creation, and webpage template done in
parallel. We can start from there
gggusss: week 1: sql database, html template
joeino02: no week 1 UML
joeino02: next week databas and html
GumbaGioino: (design first)
Donjaber: yeah design first, but I was talking
about coding
gggusss: ok so the first week (after design) is
all about sql and html right
gggusss: erik, how long u think it takes to set
up a database
gggusss: ?
Donjaber: for the first part. We might have
other functions at the same time. but thats
what I know for sure
joeino02: he said 3 days
Donjaber: 3 days is more or less
Donjaber: it depends how good the design is
first
joeino02: we may even start the java program
or practice applets
Donjaber: well ok three things, Set up
database, set up database connection to
JSP template, and having an html template
set up altogether
RaginAznXX: Okay.
RaginAznXX: Erik, would it be a good
idea for me to learn JSP?
RaginAznXX: I've always wanted to, but
never had an excuse to.
gggusss: i dont really know jsp or sql, but ive
already started lookin at the manual of my
visual studio
Donjaber: well, it will be a good idea for all of
us to have an idea of it. I will see how Rich
and I can have an example or just a
template to show you what it is all about
RaginAznXX: Sure.
gggusss: what jsp stands for?
Donjaber: visual studio is mostly for .NET
framework. Check out netBeans which will
most likely be the platform we will be using
Donjaber: Java server page
gggusss: ahh
gggusss: k
RaginAznXX: Netbeans was pretty nice
and friendly, from what I saw in the lab
while I was poking around.
RaginAznXX: It's freeware, if nothing
else.
Donjaber: I was trying to just poke around,
but couldnt get set yet today
Donjaber: yeah freeware
joeino02: itll do fine
gggusss: what version of netbeans are u guys
runnin 3.6 or the beta one?
RaginAznXX: I got 3.6
Donjaber: 3.6
gggusss: damn that winxp sp 2
gggusss: it messed all my firewall setting
joeino02: sp?
RaginAznXX: Service pack
joeino02: rich aint coming
gggusss: yeah, it comes with a ms win firewall
which i dont like but it overwrote the
settings of my firewall
joeino02: erik go study we aint doing much
joeino02: we got this
GumbaGioino: yea service pack 2 is annoying
with the firewall and security warnings
Donjaber: nah, I will wait for rich, and then
when he is aware of things, I will go
RaginAznXX: Yeah. If anything, we need
either Rich or Erik in the leadership
position. They're the most
knowledgable here, since we're doing
a database-heavy project.
Donjaber: trust me, database is important but
will not be the hardest
RaginAznXX: Ah.
RaginAznXX: So what will be, you say?
Donjaber: we will need extensive time
(saturdays maybe) to work along in the lab,
so that we can tutor the ones who are not
used yet to the different programming, and it
will be more efficient then online meetings
Donjaber: you mean hard?
RaginAznXX: Yeah.
Donjaber: most complicated will be the
middleman between JSP's and database,
back and forth. That back ground system
will be where a lot of check and exception
will be done
RaginAznXX: Yeah... maybe I should
have said "anything that has to do with
the database side"
RaginAznXX: I'm clueless on these
subjects.
Donjaber: well, we'll see when we start
coding
RaginAznXX: Yeah.
RaginAznXX: So these dependencies
she's asking for, do I just put them in
with every line in Rich's submission?
RaginAznXX: i.e: establish account
depends on database
RaginAznXX: Log on depends on
database
Donjaber: yeah, put dependencies, but you
dont have to fill in between the lines of rich's
work, it will not look good.
Donjaber: Just rewrite it all to fit a certain
given format
RaginAznXX: just incorporate what Rich
did?
Donjaber: give me a min J.
RaginAznXX: Sure.
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Donjaber: Whats up rich?
joeino02: welcome rich
PntMstrFlx: ok... hopefully not too many
interruptions from the residents tonight
Donjaber: hopefully notr
Donjaber: Ok here is how it goes rich
Donjaber: They all linked up their work
Donjaber: I dont know if you did yourself...
but J volunteered to consolidate it all. So he
will need your link too
Donjaber: we need to talk about how he will
consolidate it, so we dont leave it all to him
RaginAznXX: If anything, I'd feel better
with some help. I don't know the
project as well as you or Erik.
Donjaber: we need to help into how we are
going to work a schedule out
Donjaber: we talked about these things but
we were not affirmative or sure enough of
ourselves
joeino02: weekly quotas sound best, not to
specific and good guidlines
Donjaber: but we need to know which
quotas?
PntMstrFlx: ok... just give me 2 more mins to
grasp what's been written and get an idea of
how to put some stuff together
Donjaber: I was also trying to put up in
everyones mind our sense of urgency and
how important 308 is especially when it
involves everybody, so that is more or less
about it
Donjaber: guys, I am going to leave in 15
mins
gggusss: k
PntMstrFlx: understandable... hopefully we'll
be done w/ this soon...
Donjaber: if anyone has the whole chat for
today, try uploading it as chat092004.htm
for me
PntMstrFlx: now how long and at what stage
would you think we'd integrate the JSP's...
Donjaber: I mean save it and upload it
Donjaber: I told the guys that coding wise,
our first part will include heavy duty work
from us.
Donjaber: We will try to implement database,
put up html template, and set up JSP
template altogether
Donjaber: I can work on setting up the
environment for the JSP using netBeans, but
I will require time and maybe your
knowledge from what you know about
netbeans from 336
Donjaber: you could start the database, and J
could start the html. The other guys could
look up what we are doing, but could be
even more helpful making as detailed as
possible a user manual
Donjaber: I mean start not making
PntMstrFlx: is everybody ok w/ that layout
so far?
RaginAznXX: Yeah.
gggusss: i could help out with the html too
gggusss: if u want me too
Donjaber: About documentation, we need to
set a template for it. There is an option in
Word that links an index of paragraphs to
the paragraphs themselves, and we will need
headers and footers too. Everything that will
make the doc...
Donjaber: ...as professional and efficient as
possible
Donjaber: I am getting ahead of myself, but I
want to tell you not to start by simply writing
text at first
PntMstrFlx: ok... let's figure out how long
each task will take...
Donjaber: btw rich, what I just said is for the
first two weeks of coding.
Donjaber: after that, I didnt think hard enough
to know what we would do
RaginAznXX: So...
RaginAznXX: What do we do?
Donjaber: J. sorry I cant help you more for
today. I have to bounce though
RaginAznXX: Yeah.
RaginAznXX: Hey
RaginAznXX: One thing
PntMstrFlx: Good luck on the midterm
Donjaber: thanks man
RaginAznXX: Want to start doing
weekend meetings?
GumbaGioino: later
RaginAznXX: Maybe every other
weekend?
Donjaber: yeah\
RaginAznXX: I mean
RaginAznXX: If we get twice as much
done on a single meeting
Donjaber: it would be very healthy for the
project
RaginAznXX: In person
PntMstrFlx: we can talk about that during
class tomorrow ... for now let's get this
assignment done
RaginAznXX: Yeah.
RaginAznXX: Just putting it up in the air.
RaginAznXX: Alright Erik
RaginAznXX: Good luck
gggusss: later erik good lucj
gggusss: luck*
joeino02: nite erik
Donjaber: ok guys, remember to save this
chat for me, whoever has most of the chat
without getting disconnected
joeino02: me or gus
RaginAznXX: I probably don't have it.
joeino02: we didnt leave
Donjaber: Thanks a lot guys, I will let you
know how it went. Also upload an update
on the website if you come up with a new
meeting
RaginAznXX: 'kay
Donjaber: Gnight guys
gggusss: guys out of curiosity, what
percentage of sql, jsp, html and java are we
gonna do in the project
joeino02: night
RaginAznXX: 'nite
PntMstrFlx: well... 30-40% SQL, 30-40%
JSP, and 20-30% HTML, 10% java...
however Java programmers will learn about
JSP too *evil grin*
RaginAznXX: That much HTML, you
think?
gggusss: so i better start gettin use to sql soon
RaginAznXX: Oh yeah
RaginAznXX: HTML for the employees,
too, right?
PntMstrFlx: I think that was what the group
was leaning too.. but we can always change
that during implementation if you'd rather not
RaginAznXX: Mm...
RaginAznXX: We'll see.
RaginAznXX: Swing can get pretty
messy.
RaginAznXX: HTML for now, then.
PntMstrFlx: btw... we have 10 weeks to do
this
gggusss: shouldnt be a problem
RaginAznXX: Mmm... there will still be a
lot of stuff to do even after we code it.
RaginAznXX: Like document and test.
RaginAznXX: Which will take a while.
PntMstrFlx: by what week should we have
the final coding due...
RaginAznXX: You mean like, even with
debugging, right?
gggusss: 7th, at most 8th, cuz then we need
time to test
gggusss: then work on the user manual
RaginAznXX: 8th sounds good, since by
the time we get to debugging, we'll
have some manpower free to work on
stuff like documentation alongside it.
gggusss: allright jason, so what do u need
help with, only the schedule?
RaginAznXX: Mm...
RaginAznXX: I think I should be able to
handle it.
gggusss: k...so joe remember to save the char
for erik
gggusss: chat*
RaginAznXX: Rich, what should we do
about the dependencies?
PntMstrFlx: the schedule I can help work
out... think you'll be able to edit the
assignment 3 part 1? pretty much filter
through our responses to find the most
approperiate ideas and integrate them...
don't worry about putting everything in
PntMstrFlx: we don't need to be so fancy..
but just seeing how they interpreted the
assignment
RaginAznXX: Ah.
RaginAznXX: So are we going to have a
database for the food items, too?
RaginAznXX: I don't know how that will
work.
PntMstrFlx: definately for the food items... it
shouldn't be a problem
RaginAznXX: Okay.
RaginAznXX: Just wanted to make sure.
RaginAznXX: Which things on here will
we be using database for?
RaginAznXX: I have to put in
dependencies.
joeino02: any information that must be saved
joeino02: menu items and accounts primarily
PntMstrFlx: yeah... all user types (employee
manager patron)... actually... look over
Erik's contribution to assignment 3
RaginAznXX: 'kay.
PntMstrFlx: right now just workin out a
schedule w/ tasks... after I'm done I'll
upload it so you can all review it and tell me
what needs editting
gggusss: brb cigarrete break
RaginAznXX: I'm working on filling out
Rich's Assignment 3.
gggusss: can we upload stuff to geocities
using ftp?
RaginAznXX: No.
RaginAznXX: You have to get like,
Geocities Premium for that.
RaginAznXX: Hey, should I put in how we
plan on implementing each
functionality?
PntMstrFlx: you don't have to
RaginAznXX: Okay.
RaginAznXX: Should I put in the objects,
like Erik did?
PntMstrFlx: you can stick those in
RaginAznXX: 'kay, but we don't have
objects for the other functionalities.
RaginAznXX: I didn't realize we needed
those.
PntMstrFlx: we don't really....
PntMstrFlx: at least not that I can tell from
the assignment...
RaginAznXX: Oh.
PntMstrFlx: but if we have em... just put em
in =P
RaginAznXX: Sure.
RaginAznXX: Rich, would you mind if I
swap some stuff around in your outline
to reorganize?
gggusss: should be no problem, organize it as
u see it fit
PntMstrFlx: go ahead... I'm going to upload a
basic outline of dates and my addition to the
menu feature right now.... everybody look
over outline of dates because it also includes
a more specific task assignment
RaginAznXX: What time is the homework
due by?
GumbaGioino: b4 class right?
RaginAznXX: Oh
PntMstrFlx: yeah
RaginAznXX: Okay.
gggusss: j. what u got so far?
RaginAznXX: Filling stuff out for
manager.
RaginAznXX: Rich, what did you mean by
"review daily checks"?
PntMstrFlx: here... you can open up
contribution
RaginAznXX: Oh, you got that in?
PntMstrFlx: kinda
PntMstrFlx: a bit more specified
RaginAznXX: Nice.
GumbaGioino: thats a well thought out
schedule
RaginAznXX: Yeah, it looks pretty good.
RaginAznXX: Let me put the manager
part in
Donjaber: Hey guys, I am dropping by a little
again...
RaginAznXX: hey Erik
RaginAznXX: Rich has finished up the
schedule, and I'm about to wrap up on
the functionalities.
Donjaber: sup man, I dont want to distract
you but for the other guys, check out the
link rich found
http://www.actionsystems.com/
RaginAznXX: Yeah, I was looking at that
before.
GumbaGioino: jason had an actionsystem link
before
Donjaber: ok good, I saw that already, great
job rich
PntMstrFlx: :-D < - l33t
Donjaber: ohhh didnt check it out, didnt mean
to take that away from you though
Donjaber: (J)
RaginAznXX: It's okay
RaginAznXX: I just linked to their
screenshots.
RaginAznXX: There's this thing called
Abacre
Donjaber: its perfect if we could get more
details from it. But go ahead with what you
were saying. I just wanted to point that out
RaginAznXX: It's a shareware POS
system you can download and try
RaginAznXX: It's got decent functionality
RaginAznXX: Like employee database
and open orders.
Donjaber: I wanted to remind you also, very
important, state every outside resources we
got, extra points for that
Donjaber: Yo guys, get back to what you
were working on, I will take a back seat for
now
GumbaGioino: that should be a later feature if
there is time right?
Donjaber: lets get to the point where we have
the customer information and leave it there
for now
gggusss: dunno, i wrote it down cuz i thought
it would be a good idea
RaginAznXX: Okay.
Donjaber: put it as optional if you want
RaginAznXX: Yeah, I'll do that.
GumbaGioino: u guys mind if i go to bed? i
gotta get up in about 4 1/2 hours
RaginAznXX: Yeah, go for it. I can
handle this.
GumbaGioino: ok
GumbaGioino: thanks alot guys
RaginAznXX: Good night.
GumbaGioino: cya tomorrow
Donjaber: itsall good
GumbaGioino has left the room.
RaginAznXX: Okay.
RaginAznXX: I have everything.
RaginAznXX: Now I have to do
dependencies.
Donjaber: yo J, I miss some of the chat, are
you really on top of this?
RaginAznXX: I've got some of everything
everyone said into one document.
Donjaber: great
Donjaber: Rich are you there
RaginAznXX: But we just need
dependencies.
Donjaber: sure, let me think a little about it
RaginAznXX: One thing, though.
Donjaber: ...
RaginAznXX: Do we need both an Order
and a Check?
RaginAznXX: We can just have a check
with a customer's name on it, right?
Donjaber: a check is a summary of everything
about the current patron session
Donjaber: the order object will have fields
and objects such as account information,
order information which has itself menu
items, waiter, status and will be the main
object used by our whole project
RaginAznXX: Ohh, okay.
Donjaber: I dont think you know what a java
bean is for now, but dont worry about it for
now, its just like an object which has a life
span of a session or something like that
RaginAznXX: 'kay.
Donjaber: so the check will be temporary and
will have a lifespan from initialization to
payment processing
Donjaber: whereas account information will
be permanent in database, so will the menu
gggusss: guys ill talk to u tomorrow in class,
gotta wake up @ 5:40, then drive for about
an hour tomorrow to get to my 8am class
RaginAznXX: Let me put Assignment 3
up as it stands so far.
Donjaber: sleep tight man, we'll update you
guys as soon as possible
gggusss: if u need me just im to my cell phone
gggusss: ill wake up if neccessary, ill cya guys
Donjaber: peace
PntMstrFlx: ok, had to deal w/ a noise
complaint.... oh the joys =P
RaginAznXX: Ha.
gggusss has left the room.
Donjaber: lol, RA, couldnt deal with a job like
that
RaginAznXX: Here, let me put it on my
webspace so I dont' accidentally
overwrite anything.
Donjaber: dont worry about it, you know
how it works, it was just a mistake
PntMstrFlx: haha... that was hillarious btw
=P
RaginAznXX: Yeah, but now I'm scared.
Donjaber: you will have to deal with the
website eitherways
RaginAznXX: Hehe, yeah.
RaginAznXX: But it's late and I'm
sleepy... so... Better safe than sorry?
Donjaber: Not to be a pain, but if you rewrite
it in a consistent format, then besides
dependencies, we would be good to go
Donjaber: and rich...
RaginAznXX: m'kay.
PntMstrFlx: yes?
Donjaber: documentation is going to be
ongoing process, just in case I read wrong
Donjaber: the coders dont have to always
write documentation, but to leave it to the
end would be hanging ourselves up
Donjaber: I've seen bibles written for this
class
PntMstrFlx: lol... yeah... it is an on-going
process....
Donjaber: I told the guys that we would
document our own coding as much as
possible, but whenever someone is stalling
or have nothing assigned to him, it would not
hurt documenting, plus it's great way to learn
PntMstrFlx: exactly
Donjaber: By the looks of it, our project
might end up being some much simpler then
we expected it to be, meaning less
functionality then we predicted
Donjaber: cause it would be hard to
implement everything we talked about. 10
weeks is nothing
Donjaber: We are going to have to come up
with the core functionalities and make up a
hierarchy of importance of the other
functionalities
Donjaber: sorry, thats not what i meant by
consistent format. Are you going to send it
as is, or are you going to take everything we
did so far and word them, phrase them,
standardize them into one format (yours).
Donjaber: it looks good I should say
Donjaber: just that it is a bunch of points. If I
didnt know what this was all about I would
be lost
RaginAznXX: Oh.
PntMstrFlx: at this point is there time to do all
the rephrasing?
RaginAznXX: Oh, I just realized that I also
overlooked some stuff while
reformatting that I have to realign.
RaginAznXX: But yeah
RaginAznXX: How should I rephrase
stuff?
Donjaber: Well, Im just commenting on it, but
not expecting J to do stuff if he cannot do
so. He did the core of it already
RaginAznXX: Wait, before you guys do
anything, there's some stuff I missed.
PntMstrFlx: k
Donjaber: We could start by dividing what
you have there into the different parts the
professor asked for, and introducing them
for example
RaginAznXX: Okay.
RaginAznXX: It's up.
RaginAznXX: Anything else I can do?
Donjaber: give me a minute
Donjaber: rich listen up
PntMstrFlx: sup
Donjaber: each group is asked to divide its
project into a set of minimum functionalities /
features, each as small as possible. The goal
is to enable them to be added incrementally,
so you could always have a deliverable
Donjaber: in the shortest time possible
Donjaber: Do you think we stated enough
what our minimum functionalities would be
for this project.
Donjaber: Lets clear that out for now
PntMstrFlx: well.... we stated the top view
and all the functions our program needs to
perform...
PntMstrFlx: general and a bit more specific
Donjaber: yeah we had functions alright, but
what is the minimum we want to have as of
now, and then if we have time we would
add the extras
PntMstrFlx: I think pretty much minus the
few optional ideas we floated around, what
we have is the minimum for the system to be
effective
Donjaber: so we have account information
(including payment infos), menu lookup and
setup, seat assignment and status, Logins,
Donjaber: and order
Donjaber: Lets think of the steps once more
to be clear about it, because we need to be
as clear as possible, this will be the basis of
our design
Donjaber: but lets think of it purely as of what
is minimal
PntMstrFlx: ok
Donjaber: 1- We need logins (guest or user)
Donjaber: We will have three positions
(Patron, employee, manager)
PntMstrFlx: yes
Donjaber: After login or user creation, which
will be done for all three positions we will
have these different steps
PntMstrFlx: k
Donjaber: Patron: access to menu, makes an
order ticket (menu items, price, linked up to
his account ticket)
PntMstrFlx: reserve table
Donjaber: fills in payment info that we will
simply store in database linked to his
account info
Donjaber: we will not go through payment
process, simple payment status
Donjaber: simply*
PntMstrFlx: agreed
Donjaber: so far, patron signed in new
account, signed in system, made order, filled
in payment, and makes reservation following
simply a schedule showing next available
table to be reserved, but not choosing from
a list of tables
