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The bright side to remember Message: Responses Thursday, 25-Nov-1999 18:07:09 209.222.160.171 writes: Who are you? 24.128.144.193 writes: Your arguments are an interesting view point, of I am sure other members of this co-op. Although I was under the impression that the purpose of a co-op was so that many mid and smaller businesses could join together for collective bargaining and together could have the power of a large business, in our case marketing. When I hear all this talk about survival of the fittest (or is that fattest), I am reminded that joining together in a co-op was to provide a size advantage to us all. I was not aware that the purpose also was to include the opportunity for larger members to cannibalize smaller members, or to take advantage of them. It has become apparent by your bold and candid posting that there are those amongst us waiting and plotting our demise. This throws a whole new light on the concept of cooperative membership. We have a lot of important issues to consider. Perhaps the purpose and value of this cooperative should be one of those things. Thank you for putting that issue right up on the table for consideration and being so open with your plans. It is certainly sobering. Don't measure our properties just yet. We plan on surviving. In some ways, smaller growers can survive hard times amazingly well. We have in the past. We have the resiliency of gnats. Part of our survival will need to include a clear understanding of exactly what agenda our co-op leadership holds for us, and plan our futures accordingly. I wish I knew your name. I wish no misery on anyone and I'd like to know who wishes misery on me. And if you represent the leadership of this co-op, than I sure would like to know that. L. Rinta See posting from Nov. 27 below regarding "Who are you." Thursday, 25-Nov-1999 23:35:06 24.128.144.193 writes: yes,and there will be no more wars, people will love one another,there will no longer be any sickness, and the south will rise again,look away dixie land paul rinta Friday, 26-Nov-1999 04:40:35 204.203.20.50 writes: After reading your posting many times I decided that this was not just a ploy to make us united and strike back now. There are apparently many of you with a great amount of operating capital and other large cash reserves who are happy that many of the small growers will be gone. This will also make your vote count more strongly when there are fewer total votes to be cast. You misjudged about being able to buy the land producing cranberries from the bank though. Some of the newer smaller growers are also financed throught the Farm Service Bureau (formerly FmHA) so it will take you much longer to 'grab" the farms for pennies on the dollar. I sincerely hope that you have almost unlimited cash reserves, because the fewer growers there are, the more cash it will cost you out of pocket to keep Ocean Spray going. I sincerely hope that Mr. Brown keeps this site going, so when you too are on the verge of losing everything we can watch your postings as you whine and bitch about losing the farms you intended to pass on to your children. From your message it sounds as if you are looking forward to becomming the "King of Cranberries." I hope that I don't know you personally because I don't want my children to even remotely know anyone with your type of thinking for fear some of it may rub off on them. Your thinking reminds me of an upcomming Christmas story by Charles Dickens and the small growers are the "Tiny Tims" of the Ocean Spray Family. The upcoming holiday season is the time of miracles so we sincerely hope that one happens and you are able to have some "Happy Holidays". John Gibson Friday, 26-Nov-1999 07:54:09 205.188.192.169 writes: I notice the original message was posted on 4:30 in the afternoon on Thanksgiving day, nothing better to do? I appreciate that those sentiments are out in the open because it helps the rest of us know what we're up against. I just wonder how much guts it takes to post such an incendiary message in the middle of a holiday with no name attached. The miracle for our children we wish for this Christmas Season is for them to be able to continue to grow up in the only way they know, on the family farm. FYI we have no mortgage on the farm only our house, but that makes no difference in the end. It's worse than if we did because there's no buffer. We're 3rd generation in a lease situation, we have no bog for Mr. Potter to take. bac Yaa....right....... 38.30.162.113 writes: This is BS..... just one SOB trying to start an electronic fight amoung us. He doesn't believe what is written and he probably isn't even a grower. Ignore the fool and enjoy your holiday. Mr. Neanderthal ! 208.200.8.181 writes: I like your analogy survival of the fittest. Competition is good but tell me why if things were so good with the " big guys" ,why did Mr Swendrowski side blind your kind so easily ? I would think twice about cutting down the little guys. A great deal of them have outside sources of income and are not dependent on the marsh totally for survival. I do not mean to offend the large grower. Most are no different than anyone else. But with the mentality of the original poster, I find it hard to restrain myself. This message is only intended for the author of the original post. The only comfort I find in a low barrel price is the fact that it hurts you much much more than it does me financially. You mentioned your precious stock, if you were not wearing blinders you would know that anyone selling an O S marsh is not being paid, for the stock they are holding. You can use the certificate to start your fire. Now Northland is another story at least they have stock that is worth something on the open market. Buy the way the growers selling out lately are not the little growers that you say cant make it. Think about a Secondary Agenda 12.18.241.176 writes: I agree with the person who believes this posting is designed to "add fuel to the fire." Consider the possibility that this "grower" has something to gain from the grower/owners fighting amongst themselves and take it with a grain of salt. There is little doubt that some growers feel this way, but an anonymous posting, like this one, on Thanksgiving day is not worth the disk space it consumes. Consider who benefits from these words and stay together as a group. That is the best asset you have. Business Person The bright side to remember 152.163.207.53 writes: Right, do not even read this posting. It is a hate-monger. Hey original poster, put it on the Extranet and prove you are a grower. If not, put some cranberry sauce in your mouth and think before you speak (or type)! Chew slowly, we wouldn't want you to choke on too many cranberries. Who are you? 24.128.128.146 writes: modem564.olynet.com is the Domain Name Server address of this individual. Olynet.com is a domain belonging to http://www.olynet.com/, which is an Internet Service Provider known as Olympic Network Communications serving the Olympic Northwest. The long and short of this is that this post came from someone, presumably a grower or interested party who has something to gain from small contracts being pissed off. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no "Big" contracts out there, relatively speaking anyway. So everybody just take a deep breath and don't believe every single thing you read here
to be the gospel truth. Don't be a sucker. This is the reason this format is dangerous;
anyone can be anything they want you to think they are. The bright side to remember 158.252.234.198 writes: I heard a grower say almost the same thing. . |
