Only 2 things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:34:59 PM): the earth is not 6,000 year old
mikemikeiamike (5:35:05 PM): lol!!! you can't disprove that
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:35:30 PM): yes you can
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:35:38 PM): you can disprove the earth is 6,000 years old
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:36:08 PM): have you ever heard of carbon dating, radio metric dating, or ice core samples taken in the antartic?
mikemikeiamike (5:36:18 PM): i can prove that it is not millions of years old so whos right?
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:36:39 PM): you cant prove thatthe earth is 6,000
mikemikeiamike (5:37:10 PM): i can't prove its exactly 6000, but i can prove that its not millions of years old
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:37:17 PM): how?>
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:37:19 PM): you cant
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:37:39 PM): but if you can provide a resonable reason why i'll listen
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:37:46 PM): but that doesnt mean i'll beleive you
mikemikeiamike (5:39:17 PM): there are tiny microscopic cells in the earth that only live for about 3 seconds and in the middle of their lives, they form a ring...there are fossilized rings from theses cells all over the earths core
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:39:41 PM): ahahha
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:39:48 PM): no ones been to the earths core
mikemikeiamike (5:40:17 PM): not the center of the earth! the layers outside
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:40:22 PM): the core is made up of solid iron and nickel. the only reason why its solid is because of the pressure exserted by the earth
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:40:27 PM): layers outside
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:40:33 PM): ok so whats your point
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:40:51 PM): "theses cells all over the earths core"
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:40:55 PM): you said core not layers
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:41:43 PM): i'll ignore the fact you said core and pretend you said layer
mikemikeiamike (5:41:46 PM): so the earth would have had to been formed around these cells and hardened in a matter of secondsfor them to become fossils
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:42:19 PM): first of all, how deep are these bacteria?
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:42:29 PM): what is the name of this bacteria?
mikemikeiamike (5:42:32 PM): all over
mikemikeiamike (5:42:34 PM): i don't know
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:42:37 PM): where did you hear this?
mikemikeiamike (5:42:48 PM): from a scientist
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:42:54 PM): well not knowing about it makes you said dis creditable
mikemikeiamike (5:43:14 PM): were you there?
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:43:16 PM): do you beleive in noahs arc?
mikemikeiamike (5:43:22 PM): yes
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:43:26 PM): i dont need to be there to know the earth is older than 6,000
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:43:41 PM): If you believe in Noah and the Ark, then you have to believe that God concealed all evidence of the flood and intended to fool scientists.
mikemikeiamike (5:44:01 PM): no
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:44:17 PM): The tallest point on Earth is approximately 29,000 feet tall. If it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, it would have had to rain 30.2 feet an hour. That equals to 6.04 inches a minute.
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:44:42 PM): During the monsoon season, most likely the most fierce rain storm there is on Earth, it rains 3 inches a day. That's with torrential down pours all day long.
mikemikeiamike (5:45:00 PM): thats why this only happened once
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:45:02 PM): Compare 3 inches a day to 8,700 inches of rain a day that the world supposedly got during Noah's arc.
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:45:19 PM): if it ever happened it would of left major erosion
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:45:43 PM): And if the Earth is only 6,000 years old, this erosion would still be visible. Did God cover up all this erosion to fool scientists?
mikemikeiamike (5:46:01 PM): no...there is evidence of the flood
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:46:13 PM): no there isnt
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:46:15 PM): name one
mikemikeiamike (5:47:47 PM): there is a layer of earth that has hundreds of fossilized fish and stuff in it, and to fossilize a fish, the fish has to die and have pressure on it, thereby saying maye it was raining that hard, then the erosion covered the corpses
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:48:21 PM): you dont need pressure to creat a fossil. fossils are created on land . there is no pressure there
mikemikeiamike (5:48:29 PM): there is also a large unknown wooden structure in Mt. Aratrat in Turkey
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:48:54 PM): wow.... there are alot of unknown struters
mikemikeiamike (5:49:10 PM): shaped like a boat described in the bible??
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:49:26 PM): and this "unknow structure" wouldnt be large enough to fit all animals into one boat
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rk ERK ERK YOU (5:49:33 PM): especially if it were made by one family
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:50:06 PM): and even if all the animals were crammed in to one boat... when the flood stopped the animals could not reproduce
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:50:23 PM): genetic variation would cause all the animals to be retarded and have birth defects
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:50:50 PM): this can be proven by the atlantic right whale
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:51:07 PM): right whales were almost completely hunted down in the early 1900
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:51:43 PM): there were only 3 females left. they found this out by tested all the right whales DNA and it only came from 3 mothers after the early 1900
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:52:06 PM): and now a days the right whales are going extinct because they all have birth defects and are deaf
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:52:31 PM): they werent deaf or retarded before the 1900, but DNA too closely related was mixed together, its called inbreeding
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:52:51 PM): and soon the right whales will go extinct if a new genetic pool is not introduced
mikemikeiamike (5:53:15 PM): science can't prove everything
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:53:22 PM): hahaha
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:53:27 PM): and you think religion can?
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:53:35 PM): ok.. science cant prove anything?
mikemikeiamike (5:53:35 PM): no
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:53:47 PM): if it werent for science humans wouldnt have the technology we have today
mikemikeiamike (5:53:50 PM): science can't prove everything
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:53:57 PM): wo.,.. your making a convincing argument
mikemikeiamike (5:53:59 PM): i didn't say anything
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:54:21 PM): you have pursade me with your convincing arguments
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:54:39 PM): do you beleive in fossils?
mikemikeiamike (5:54:55 PM): sometimes
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:55:10 PM): what do you mean by sometimes?
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:55:31 PM): do you mean when it goes against the bible you dont beleive it?
mikemikeiamike (5:55:39 PM): no
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:55:46 PM): when what
mikemikeiamike (5:56:01 PM): i mean when scientists lie about what they find i don't believe it
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:56:21 PM): so your not very trusting with scientist are you?
mikemikeiamike (5:56:36 PM): not all of them
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:56:46 PM): ok
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:56:59 PM): but what when the scientist evidence is tested
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:57:02 PM): and it is correct
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:57:05 PM): then do you bleeive it?
mikemikeiamike (5:57:17 PM): no....not always
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:57:36 PM): but these are fossil;s tested by other scientist
mikemikeiamike (5:57:42 PM): carbon dating has been proven inaccurate, so maybe other types of tests are inaccurate as well
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:58:02 PM): even if carbon dating is not accurate it isnt going to be billions of years off
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:58:18 PM): and there are alot more accurate ways to date thing other than carbon dating
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:58:26 PM): have you ever heard of radio-metric dating?
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:58:33 PM): no i didnt think so
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:58:48 PM): what about ice samples taken in the antaric
mikemikeiamike (5:59:05 PM): they tested something from 1970 and the testing said the 30 year old object was about 4000 years old
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:59:38 PM): oh really? can you tell me where you heard this?
erk ERK ERK YOU (6:00:09 PM): and thats only 3910 years off it your telling the truth or if your "facts" are true
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rk ERK ERK YOU (6:00:14 PM): not billlions of years
erk ERK ERK YOU (6:01:07 PM): If you do not believe in Evolution, then you must think that 'God is a cosmic hoaxer who has created that whole vast fossil record for the sole purpose of misleading mankind'
mikemikeiamike (6:02:09 PM): and you must believe we are a mistake, we have no purpose and when we die, there is nothing, which explains nothing of all the miracles that happen in the present day and in the past
erk ERK ERK YOU (6:02:58 PM): well honestly humans dont do much
erk ERK ERK YOU (6:03:04 PM): they dont have much of a purpose
erk ERK ERK YOU (6:04:26 PM): The Tree of Knowledge represents the sum total of human understanding. Intellectual Tithing is the giving of new and useful information to the Tree of Knowledge. The Tree of Knowledge is what separates us from the animals. We all benefit from the knowledge that has been handed down to us.
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Oops, i guess i was making too much sence for mikemikeiamike.
I thought this conversation was going to be a bit more interesting because he said he could "prove it" using science. I've got to say, it was a disapointing waste of time.
mikemikeiamike (5:39:17 PM): there are tiny microscopic cells in the earth that only live for about 3 seconds and in the middle of their lives, they form a ring...there are fossilized rings from theses cells all over the earths core
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:42:19 PM): first of all, how deep are these bacteria?
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:42:29 PM): what is the name of this bacteria?
mikemikeiamike (5:42:32 PM): all over
mikemikeiamike (5:42:34 PM): i don't know
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:42:37 PM): where did you hear this?
mikemikeiamike (5:42:48 PM): from a scientist
Hummmm. sounds a bit sketchy. Sounds like mikemikeiamike isnt sure what hes talking about.
mikemikeiamike (5:46:01 PM): no...there is evidence of the flood
mikemikeiamike (5:47:47 PM): there is a layer of earth that has hundreds of fossilized fish and stuff in it, and to fossilize a fish, the fish has to die and have pressure on it, thereby saying maye it was raining that hard, then the erosion covered the corpses
I hate when people try to use science as a proof for the bible. They just make them selves look like an idiot. I do not even know where to begin with that last comment about how fossils supossivly occur. Let me just put it this way: No mikemikeiamike.no
mikemikeiamike (5:53:50 PM): science can't prove everything  
That right there allows you to disclaim mike says
erk ERK ERK YOU (5:54:39 PM):
do you beleive in fossils?
mikemikeiamike (5:54:55 PM): sometimes                  
  Fossils must be the work of the devil
mikemikeiamike (6:02:09 PM): and you must believe we are a mistake, we have no purpose and when we die, there is nothing, which explains nothing of all the miracles that happen in the present day and in the past

First of all, the "miracles" of the past have not been proven. And many have been disproven. Second of all, what miracles of today? I havent seen any sea partings or massive floods lately. Have you? These Christian "scientist" who try to prove the bible through science tick me off. They just dont know what their talking about yet they think its proof. I'm not sure which is worse: someone who beleives in the bible without reason or someone who believes in the bible because they "prooved" it.
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