McKinley County Water Board

M I N U T E S

July 15, 2005

McKinley County Commissioners Chambers

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:

                Paulene McCabe        Manuelito Chapter

                           Joan Sandy        Pueblo of Zuni

                        Sherry Botkin        Thoreau Water & Sanitation District

                 Charley Long, Sr.        Thoreau Chapter, Navajo Nation

                  Loline Hathaway        Yah-ta-hey Water & Sanitation District

                        Michael Daly        White Cliffs MDWUA

 

facilitators/staff:

                      Evan Williams        Northwest NM Council of Governments

                                Jeff Kiely        Northwest NM Council of Governments

                             Larry Winn        McKinley County Soil & Water Conservation District

 

 

I.                    OPENING & INTRODUCTIONS.  Board facilitator Larry Winn opened the meeting at 10:11 AM, and announced that several representatives of the NM Energy, Minerals, and Resources Department Mining and Minerals Division would be providing the Water Board with a presentation on the hydrologic impacts of El Segundo Mine adjacent to the Lee Ranch Coal Mine. 

II.                  MINUTES.

Joan Sandy moved, and Sherry Botkin seconded to approve the minutes from the “Small Systems Forum” of June 8, 2005.  The motion was approved by acclamation.

 

III.                OLD/NEW BUSINESS.

a.      EL SEGUNDO / MUSTANG PROJECT

                                                               i.      Larry Winn described that he was recently appointed to the Soil & Water Conservation Districts Board and was immediately tasked with serving on the NM Coal Surface Mining Commission, which holds a seat for a SWCD representative.  He also detailed to the presenters that the McKinley County Water Board has been charged to function as an unbiased voice in all possible activities having water impacts in McKinley County.

                                                             ii.      Background given regarding the potential El Segundo Mine:

1.      The mine will produce 5M tons a year and have a 30-year life of operation.

2.      The NM Mines and Minerals Division will oversee the reclamation work.

3.      The mine is located on a 15,000-acre parcel of private and state land.  The mine has 650 acre/ft per year in water rights.

                                                            iii.      The presenters then focused on the Probable Hydrologic Consequences and the John Shomaker & Associates model for the San Juan Basin and Gallup that determines the anticipated best & worst-case scenarios for aquifer draw down in the nearby major community, in this case, Crownpoint, NM.

                                                           iv.      The presenters discussed the mine’s San Juan well 120 in the Westwater Canyon and the worst case scenario of time lapse draw down effects:

1.      Westwater Canyon

a.      5 years – no effect in Crownpoint.

b.      10 years -.3 inches in Crownpoint.

c.      30 years – 2 ft. in Crownpoint.

d.      50 years – 2.6 ft. in Crownpoint.

Will this effect Crownpoint?

Crownpoint has 3 wells in the Westwater Canyon and 1 well in the Gallup Sandstone.  The amounts above represent less than 1.7% of water available in draw down.  Whereas, by NM EMNRD standards, 25% would reflect sufficient damage to surrounding resources.

 

2.      Gallup Sandstone

a.      5 years - .1 ft. in Crownpoint.

b.      10 years – 9 ft. in Crownpoint.

c.      30 years – 5 ft. in Crownpoint.

This represents 10.2% of water available in drawdown period.

 

3.      Dalton Sandstone

a.      5 years - .1 ft. of draw down in Crownpoint.

b.      10 years - .6 ft. in Crownpoint.

c.      30 years – 2. 7 ft. in Crownpoint.

 

                                                             v.      Jim O’Hara also discussed the use of the TICE Model, which is used by the State. The TICE Model is the worst-case scenario and implies that there is no recharge in the aquifer.

 

                                                           vi.      Jim O’Hara explained the permitting process and the 100 pages of regulations that must be followed.  He detailed the State’s control in the process, which required the applicant to submit a hydrological report and a cumulative hydrological plan.  The State also does independent analysis and requires monitoring wells to be drilled and monitored.  The State has the right and authority to stop mining at any time if the wells indicate an expedited draw down occurring.  The State can force the company to replace domestic wells that are harmed during the mining period.  The Dalton well if negatively affected will be reimbursed.

 

                                                          vii.      Loline Hathaway asked a question referring to in-situ leech uranium mining.  The presenters stated they really only focused on coalmines and stated that coalmines have the most comprehensive regulations, unlike uranium mining.

 

                                                        viii.      Charley Long Sr. requested that all relative documents be sent to the Navajo Chapters for review.  He also asked what did the State and the company do to inform Navajo people of this potential operation.  The presenters stated that they had public hearings and presentations in three (3) nearby Chapters, sent letters to Chapter Presidents and Council Delegates, and that Navajo Minerals Department was informed. 

 

                                                           ix.      Mr. Long then explained to the presenters that the area around the present mine site has vast deposits of coal and wonders why it has not been developed.  The presenters felt it might be a question of economics and how deep they have drill to hit thick pockets.

 

                                                             x.      The presenters explained that this coal source would be used to fill gaps in region and the intention of this coal would to be sold locally (NM & AZ).

 

                                                           xi.      Loline Hathaway pressed on the accuracy of the hydrologic modeling over time and the amount of variables taken into account.  She questioned if future growth, increased demand, or a new mega-NHA housing facility was factored in the long-term equation?  The presenters responded by saying that a comprehensive mix of present factors were taken into account and minimal growth.  Jim O’Hara asked that information like the NHA housing project be forwarded to him, so he could keep this in his scope. 

 

                                                          xii.      Jim O’Hara stated that NM EMNRD could send the equivalent of his shop out to present information on uranium mining.

 

                                                        xiii.      Mark Hiles of Lee Ranch stated that the majority of the water used was for dust suppression and washing equipment.

 

 

Map of the El Segundo Mine site.

 

ACTION:  Water Board would recommend to the County Commission, based on the approval of New Mexico Environment Department Mines & Minerals Division and the informational capacity and knowledge gathered by the Water Board, that the Water Board sees an acceptable, minimal impact of the hydrologic resources to McKinley County and recommend that this project be supported by the Commission.

 

b.      SMALL SYSTEMS ASSOCIATION

                                                               i.      Jeff Kiely and Evan Williams facilitated a discussion involving the pros ad cons of the regionalization of small systems in McKinley County.  The Board defined the players in a possible association as the water associations including Water & Sanitation Districts and Mutual Domestics.  The Board also thought it would be feasible to involve all community-based systems and NTUA systems at their behest.

 

                                                             ii.      Charley Long, Sr. stated that he would like to see the Thoreau area get a share of the water from Navajo-Gallup Water Supply Project, and discussed an issue regarding a request from a family that moved onto the reservation that wanted to be hooked up to the Thoreau WSD system.  Sherry Botkin discussed several issues that needed to be resolved including a resolution, easements across, ROWs, and that this family was also close enough to hook into NTUA lines, which may be a faster solution.

 

                                                            iii.      Mike Daly stated that the group already had an association in the Water Board, and that this Board provided the sharing of information already and could be expanded with more players and resource sharing powers.

 

                                                           iv.      Jeff Kiely offered that the water associations have specific operating needs and that all are not represented at the table. 

 

                                                             v.      Loline Hathaway discussed the need for posting information and emergency information at Ya-tah-hey WSD.

 

                                                           vi.       Evan Williams introduced and presented for discussion a matrix of “Issues and Needs of Small Systems in Rural New Mexico”. (see below)

 

Matrix of Issues and Needs of Small Systems in Rural New Mexico

 

Main Category

Issues and Needs

Solutions discussed at the Small Systems Forum:

 

Burden of regulations

 

Ø       “Audits”

Ø       “Consumer Confidence Reports”

Ø       “Water testing”

Ø       “EPA regulations”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Capacity to service

 

 

Ø       “Economies of scale”

Ø       Office space

Ø       Full-time operator

Ø       Secretarial staffing

Ø       Equipment

 

 

Financial Burdens and Cost of Infrastructure

 

Ø       “Fiscal responsibility with reducing grant funding”

Ø       “Replacing aging infrastructure”

 

 

 

 

 

 

Water Rates and Bill Collection

 

Ø       “Facing water rate increases”

Ø       “Developing new rates and metering system”

Ø       “Changing locals attitudes towards value of water”

Ø       “Collection issues –one system reported to the group that approximately 50% of her customers default on their water bill payments”

Ø       “Major obstacle for small systems in McKinley County is in the collection of water rates”

1.                                     Enforce Rules & Regulations without variation, otherwise if one customer thinks someone is getting subsidized; then no one will pay.

2.                                     Run your operation like a business, and cut them off.

3.                                     If your going to cut people off – you may have to go to court, which costs in attorney fees, but if you can educate the judge – he can throw out cases.

4.                                    Your clients choose a rural lifestyle and it is more expensive to pump water so they have to pay more.

 

 

 

Water rights

 

 

Ø       “Defining and securing water rights”

 

 

System’s Personnel Capacity

 

Ø       Matt Holmes made the comment that a water association needs to have the fiscal capacity to hire a professional operator.

Ø       “Running a system with volunteer(s)”

Ø       Employability of workers

Ø       Training

 

 

Water conservation and standard of quality

 

Ø       “Water testing”

 

Collaboration and Sharing Resources

Ø       “Coordinating efforts between NTUA, IHS, and Chapters”

Ø       “Coordination between water associations”

 

1. Sharing meter reader across water association – example of White Cliffs and Yah-ta-hey.

 

Incorporating New Technologies

Ø       “The potential of reuse and technological advances in the case in Cloudcroft”

Ø       “The potential of water conservation in the case of Albuquerque”

 

 

Burden of Litigation

Ø       Gamerco WSD example

 

Emergency/ Safety/ Homeland Security

Ø       Emergency Tie-ins

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                          vii.      The Board discussed several options for regionalization including:

1.      Have a County meter reader(s) that could rotate and was familiar with various or all the systems, and could be on-call.

2.      Have a central billing system and collections firm.

3.      Having a central office that could have informational storage, shared office equipment, and shared staff to answer phone calls, etc.

4.      Sharing equipment, such as, a backhoe and trailer, which could be housed at a County yard and scheduled for use.  An issue that arose was insurance.

5.      Pooling together on sampling and testing equipment.

 

                                                        viii.      Larry Winn wanted a dynamic structure of the association that could be self-defined and its constituents would grow for certain issues and needs and shrink for others.  He also talked about systematizing and common rate structure.

 

                                                           ix.      Jeff Kiely agreed that the association could be light on structure and heavy on resources with simple rules that allowed for individual autonomy.

 

                                                             x.      Joan Sandy added that once this association showed success that everyone would want to jump on board, but that it will important to invite everyone to the initial meeting.

 

                                                           xi.      Sherry Botkin and Loline Hathaway shared information on keeping track of meter readings.  Sherry offered that Butler’s Office Supply carries meter-reading cards that are essential to handling this issue.  felt his discussion with HRI made him re-think his stance on the Crownpoint proposal.  Edward Wemytewa commented that the URI presentation was very informative on the process of in-situ leech mining. Evan Williams noted that HRI staff discredited the ENDUAM modeling, but that it was a high-level scientific and theoretical argument and not based on concrete evidence of how the aquifer would behave in Crownpoint.  The Board felt comfortable still about the Churchrock operation and the effects of that project on the groundwater. 

 

GENERAL CONSENSUS: The Board decided to pursue “firming up” a draft concept for regionalization and take a look at examples of water associations.

 

 

IV.                OTHER ISSUES & ANNOUNCEMENTS

V.                  ADJOURNMENT:  Paulene McCabe moved, and Joan Sandy seconded to adjourn; the Board meeting adjourned at 12:07 PM. Next meeting will be at the McKinley County conference room at 10 AM on Friday, July 15th, 2005.

Respectfully submitted,

 

 

                                                                        Evan Williams, Associate Planner

                                                                        Northwest NM Council of Governments

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