HON DAH!

08/03/03 20:13:47

Name: Ricardo Barron

Email: Ricardo

COMMENTS: We are Tarahumaras from Chihuahua and would like to know more about our brothers, the Apaches . Here in Romigarachi, Nanarachi, Tehuerichi in the Ejido of Carichi are still many sites where Apaches used to run free, like las Tinajas where a few Apaches killed 24 men, or Tres Castillos were the Apache Vitorio was killed. Please understand that it is big surprise for us to see the poverty of the once great Apache nation. We are thinking about asking for help to you. from our Sabochi government. We would love to receive some stories, information and history of those Apache people who once ran free through this land.

1) The first university to arrest a Native American (Apache) for praying on our sacred mountain, a mountain the U.S. government has acknowledged as sacred to Native Americans.
2) The first university to demand prayer permits from native Americans praying on Mount Graham.
3) The first university to produce a written plan to eliminate the religion and traditional culture of the Apaches.
4) The first university to lobby to exempt itself from U.S. Native American cultural and religious protection law and U.S. environmental laws.
5) The first university to fight against listing and protecting an endangered animal species

We Apaches, our elders, our medicine people, and our tribal governments beseech all Americans not to let this university continue to inflict harm upon us, and to relocate their telescope to where they can conduct real science without harm to people or the environment - and without impaired visibility!

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I live in the U.K., and my mother has tried everything - even writing to American Chat Show hosts - to find someone who can arrange for me to spend some time with a tribe and to smoke the peace pipe! Any and all help would be greatly appreciated!

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Although I live in England, my roots are Apache. I have photos of my grandparents from the 1890s. My ancestor was the daughter of Mangus Colorados who married the ship's Captain Wright. I would be very happy to hear from any relations who can tell me more about my family history, so if you think we may be related, PLEASE Email me!
Craig Leonard

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I am Full-blooded Apache and member of an Apache Crown Dance group ("Gaan"). We dance many places, but we don't have money to pay for travel, motels, etc. off our Reservation. We have danced from Italy to California because we are the best group on the Reservation. If your company, group, or organization would like to see an Apache Gaan Dance - or sponsor us, please email me!

Comments: Thank you for sharing your culture with the world. Yours is a very special and intuitive culture. I have learned a lot reading this information.

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Keep with the Truth about your People, continue to honor the earth. I liked your site and what you have to say. I was looking for gov photos when I found your site. My luck. Good Wishes!
Scott Buchanan

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I am a Czech historian writing a book about Native Americans in the U.S. Army, who fought to defend Czechoslovakia between November 10, 1942 and May 9, 1945.
I would like to hear from all Native American veterans, especially those with photos and important stories or records of those events.
Your help is very important for my work and proof that Native American (Indian) soldiers risked their lives for Europe and Czech independence during World War II. Sadly the names of these heroes are not known to people in the Czech Republic and Europe. I thank you in advance for any help

Dr. Jindrich MAREK
Chudenicka 1068/1
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CZECH REPUBLIC

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I enjoyed reading and looking at all the pictures

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Rico, your words of IRON and the truth sometimes is twisted by those who would keep the APACHE in the DARK. In the end we will all answer the GREAT MYSTERY(death) for ourselves by ourselves. I give thanks to Usen for providing me with my Parents and Grandparents. Usen will provide for those that seek the LIGHT. Apaches never surrender and never will. DAGOTE

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It is good to have a place where we can go to contact the people. It is important we stay in touch with one another to rekindle our spirit. Thank you for this chance.
To borrow from the Dine, "May you walk in beauty!"

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My father is White Mountain Apache. I want to learn more about them. Maybe you can help. I live in Apache Junction, Arizona. Thank you.
Shadow.

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I really enjoyed reading the truth for a change that most people have no clue. Hope to tell many friends about your most informitive web site. We are trying to learn & study as much as we can & to give back to the true American people. Thanks again & keep us updated . Christoph & Phoenix

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Thank you! I am homeschooling my 6th grade son. We have been studying Native American life and how the white man attempted destroy it. I am glad to realize the white man has not totally succeeded. After seeing the BIA web site...I knew we needed to see the other side of the coin. My son found your site and we are enlightened! I was so struck by your passion. I am so far removed but felt that passion. I wonder now if it is possible that somehow I have Apache in me. I am an artist and have always felt equality with all the creatures of the earth. I hope that I can teach my children well. Thank you for showing us what you have discovered! = : - ) Chrisanthy

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Need information on Apache for history course. Extraordinary page with plenty of information; unfortunately, I must filter out too much otherwise, we would never finish this topic in world history!
Thanks

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Very interesting web site. I love the way you told of the "real" history of the Apache people and not the way we are taught in history class.

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I would like to tell you I really enjoyed reading your website. I am very intrested in Native American culture and want to learn more. Your web site provided much information. If there are any Native Americans who would be able to talk, or anyone who would like to talk to me, please e-mail me. I would appreciate it.
Thank-you!

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Hi,I loved your site! So much information! I bookmarked it so I can come back to finish reading everything later. I'm also wondering if you can email me information on how to send gifts to the Reservation. I make artifacts & would love to share them. Than you so much for sharing your views with me. I was brought up with Mescalaro background, from my fathers side. That is where I learned to make things. I consider it a great gift to be able to make these pieces of art. It is so hard for me to find informat on that is useful, your site is the first! I look forward to hearing from you.

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My father's mother's people are Apache. I have never known my people, so I was surprised to read that which I have always believed. It is good to know this. As a mixed blood, I am rarely accepted by any Indians, but I find that is no longer important; to know that I am not alone in thought, is. Ah-ho, for that.

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DA GO TEH, Greetings from a Chiricahua Apache. It is good to hear that some of the truth about my ancestors treatment is finally coming out. We need to know and so does everyone else............
Ahi Yi ee

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This is what a website should be. Thank you.

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I have just stumbled upon your site by mistake, and how glad I am that I did! I've spent the past 2 hours reading what you have to say, and it is VERY ,VERY interesting. You appear to have a wonderful way with words, and words that are so very TRUE! I am just an ordinary working class man from a little village in the west of England, and although I have always had an interest in the American Indian tribes, I have never yet had the opportunity to visit YOUR lands, but I am now determined to do so. I have always felt that your people were very badly treated by the Government, as were the African nation by the British and Dutch.........I say good luck to you, for all you stand for that is honest and right. I shall return to your site, as your words are most profound and thought provoking........thank you for your enlightenment. And I hope that one day I will see YOUR LAND with my own eyes......THANK YOU.
My very best wishes! Ross Smith

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Great granddaughter of Benjamin Franklin Two Feathers....
Thank you for putting down what I have been feeling since my childhood. I will share your words with my family and friends.
P.S. Columbus did not discover America, he invaded it....

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I saw my picture and read the comments you made about me. I really liked it!!!! Much success to you!

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Hon Dah!
I'm sorry that I do not know more about what you write. I stumbled across your web page by accident and stayed to read it. There is much truth in what you write. However, I don't understand some of it, I've never been blessed to visit FAIR. I've never see the wonderful signs you talk about... but even so.. the power and love behind your narration spoke to me. For many years, I have been troubled by the 'use' of land (misuse I think) that has been happening in America. I confess that I know nothing about who 'owns' what or any political things... I'm talking about the animals and life on the land being misused.
I grew up in a beautiful pristine land in the mountains of Maine. Our family protected that land for a century. But... it was sold to someone else, who broke with the agreement, and in turn sold the land to vacationers to build little cottages. The land h s been stripped of it's natural watershed and habitat. My friend, the beaver, has been 'relocated' (killed I think). The deer and bear, moose and sparrow have vanished. The water of the lake is spoiled and no longer crystal clear, drinkable. I hope you ca read how my heart still bleeds for that. I am ashamed I could not find a way to do anything more than what I tried.
I am a 'white' person. But I want to learn more. Your words express what I feel. Yet, I'm not one of you (to my knowledge). Is there a place I can go (I live in south Florida) or is there something that I can read that is about what you write? I don't want to read some trash from the 'Trust Me' government, I would like to know more about how you and others like you see life. kim

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Rico.. I was born and raised in a church.. attended it EVERY Sunday from the time I can remember until I was married, at which time, my husband was not a church goer and I became lax about attending.... but your account in Fort Apache Reservation.. the pictures.. the explanations are all WONDERFUL.. you are absolutely right on EVERY account as far as I'm concerned! I wish more people had the intestinal fortitude to tell it like it is!! My hats off to you and if the "Christians" don't like what you say, it's quite possibly because they don't like listening to the truth! I have been in your part of this website off and on for two days and have enjoyed all of it VERY much. Thank you! It is not only very informative, but also a nice tribute to the Apaches. Keep up the good work!!

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I love this site. I love that story. Thank you for creating this site.

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At first sight of the web-site I fully enjoyed the colorful photos of many young women that are now in their late twenties and early thirties. But, I noticed that this ceremony is being told through the eyes of a man who can only talk about the outline. If only this story could be told by a woman, there would be so much more that could be taught and told. I AM A FULL-BLOODED WHITE MOUNTAIN APACHE. My family participated in a few of these ceremonies, but there is still more to be told/shared with those who really want to know and learn. Interested people can write to me at the above e-mail address.

My Email: [email protected]

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Just saw your photo of old Apache artifacts and one of them got my attention. You can see a figure resembling a bird's track carved on it. For Finno-Ugrian peoples (Finns, Saami, Estonians, Hungarians, and many small nations scattered around modern Russia in Siberia) it is the symbol of Waterbird.
The old legend says that when Air Maiden was sleeping in the water, a waterbird that had not found a place to lay its eggs, made its nest on the knee Air Maiden. Out of the seven eggs the world got its beginn ng. Waterbird was a favoured motif in ancient jewellery, often the feet hanging loosely from the body of the bird, sometimes only the feet - or the track of a foot - making a pendant, because it was the symbol of fertility. So we may be far apart, yet cl ser than we think!
Margaretha Zidani - Finland

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I am a Warm Springs and White Mountain Apache, and I am giving the following information on a so-called Apache shaman called Morgan Eaglebear (Maez), who claims he is the great-great grandson of Geronimo. Ms. Ruey Darrow, former chairperson of the Oklahoma Apache Tribe states that person is not the grandson of Geronimo and should not be selling Apache religion. I have also received positive information of this FAKE shaman selling himself as a healer and spiritual reader. To quote Mr. Silas Cochishe, grandson of Naiche, "APACHE Religion is not to be bought or sold by fake Apache wananbe shaman. Usen will provide"

Comments: I really enjoyed reading about the Apache. I just spent a week of vacation in the New Mexico and Arizona area at Cochise's stronghold and at the Mescalero reservation. What a beautiful place! I am collecting Indian arts and crafts, and enjoy reading abou the natives of this country. Again thanks for the wonderful insight to the Apache people.

Comments: I'm a Norwegian boy who really respects the Apaches.

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Rico, You are my friend, mentor, advisor, and life line. Thank you, and thank you for this wonderful site.

n.b. - Purplehawk's kinder, gentler view of Apache culture is particularly suited to women - and American children who need to do a school report that parents and teachers will approve!

Deborah Orlowski - 04/07/00 22:18:36
My Email:[email protected]

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Thank you. The pictures are awesome....the spirit of the land is felt just by looking at them. I appreciate the time and effort you have put into this website but most of all, the trust you have placed in us all by sharing what you have shared.
Peace and joy!
Deborah

Heather - 03/19/00 06:22:54
My Email:[email protected]

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I had read quite a few articles regarding the Apache girls puberty ceremony but have never read such a detailed account of what the girls actually have to go through and cannot put into words my admiration of what they achieve. The photographs were superb! Aren't the Apache people beautiful! I never grow tired of looking at photos and reading books that tell me more about these people and cannot wait until I am actually standing in their "territory". Blessings to you.
Heather
Melbourne, Australia

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My name is Running Eagle, blood Apache. Your photos have been a godsend to my two daughters, who are breeds, and have no elders to teach them

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Let us pretend I visit your house: You offer me food and rest. I decide to stay. I order you and your family around, use your things and rearrange the rooms to my liking. I take down your photos and religious symbols, replace them with my own, and insist that you speak my language. One day, I dig up your garden and replace it with crops that I can sell. You and your family must now buy all your food from me. Later, I invite my father and his buddies over. They bring guns. We take your keys. I forge a deed and declare my father to be owner of your house. I bring more people. Some work for me. Some pay me to stay in your house. I seize your savings and spend it on my friends. You and your family sleep on the porch. Finally, you protest. Being reasonable, I let you stay in one corner of the house and give you a small allowance, but only if you behave. I tell you, "Sorry, I was wrong for taking your house." But when you demand your house back, I tell you to be realistic. You are part of this family now, whether you like it or not, I say. Besides, this is for your own good! For all that I have done for you, why aren't you grateful?"

Sarah DeMaster - 02/26/00 06:26:28
My URL: http://www.freezone.com
My Email: [email protected]

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Hi there,
I'm an editor for a kids' Web site, and we're going to do some April Fools stories about squirrels. You have some of the best squirrel photos we've seen! Would it be possible for us to use a photo from your site -- possibly the "dancing" squirrels (we will give you credit)?
Thanks!

Sarah DeMaster
Online Editor

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If you are trying to research Apache ancestry, remember Apaches never mention the name of a deceased person, so living Apaches seldom "recall" the names of their ancestors. If you believe an ancestor was an enrolled Tribal member, write to the Tribal Enr llment Office of that Tribe. Other resources are state Historical Societies, U. S. Army records, and the Bureau of Indian Affairs records at: http://www.doi.gov/bia/ancestry.html

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"First he came to us as by chance. We taught him how to fish. Next time he came he demanded we pay something he called taxes and promised to protect us against enemies we had never had. When he came the third time, he said he owned everything we had - land and water. We didn't know what he was really after. No nation ever conquered us, and we never signed any treaty". Ole Magga, spokesman for the Saami (or Lapps, living in the arctic borderlands of Finland, Sweden, Norway and Russia).

Finnish people are related to Saami, and to many other minority groups scattered around Siberia, people who practice their natural religion, people like the nenets, who still lead a nomadic life, people who still have shamans.

"Shamanism existed in its most classic form in central and northern Asia and in northern America"(Bean&Vane). Perhaps that is why I feel more kinship with Native Americans than with the Europeans who surround us.

Rico, your photos are great, and your writing makes sense!

Margaretha
Finland

Josesh Harris - 02/16/00 15:00:08
My Email: [email protected]

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This is the best site on the net for visualizing and having an introductory window into the White Mountain Apache Tribe and culture. Congratulations on an excellent site. Very superbly done.

Nun of the Above - 01/27/00 03:33:13

Comments: All who reject Jesus Christ are doomed to an eternity of misery. Even the most ignorant savage knows not to go against the flow. Your wicked words and ways are of your own choosing, but unlike our Lord, you lack the fortitude to suffer the consequences without complaint.

KennCreech - 01/24/00 17:14:54
My Email: medmanskr@aol

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Heya to you. I'm a 52 Yr.Old Creek-Cherokee mix blood. I have stood and prayed in the Huachucas, The Chiricahuas, and spent many hours in the Dragoons in awe of the beauty of that place, and the things that I feel there. The words you speak, the wonders in the pictures you have put in these pages, they speak to the deepest part of me. Thank you for Truth. I will come to see the beauty that I have seen through your eyes. I will set my feet upon that Sacred ground. Thank You for You. Peace. KennCreech

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Thank you very much for your insite into the Apache world; it is something I have been interested in since I was little, when I found out I was part Apache. I used to think thank god I was born off of Indian land but now I wish I was not burdened with the "necessities" of the "good life" also known as the white Christian life. If I had a choice I would have been born in a place where money and greed did not have their hand in everything.

Happy Hardy - 01/06/00 18:35:49
My URL: http://www.hpymed.net
My Email: [email protected]

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Rico, as always your words and pictures transport me beyond the mundane to a place of quiet reflection and questioning. Indeed, walking a mile in that youngster's moccasins would be an education of endurance and patience. Thank you for your presence and your presents. My life is richer for your friendship, your insights, and your humour.

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Enjoyed your site! I visited the rez two years ago with my Apache husband & fell in love with the White Mountain area! I'm mixed E. Cherokee, Irish, Spanish & Egyptian & understand how actions of some Christians have destroyed ways of life all over the world. Thanks for sharing your experiences with world! Maybe it'll bring some healing along the way. I also intend to go back to FAIR as often as possible & spend some of my sparse vacation money. We live in TN & can only get out there occasionally, but will do so with reverance and awe at a culture that has managed to stay afloat these many centuries. Respectfully, Scarlet Brubaker-Longfeather

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