Stickney Family in Rowley by Sandy Clunies Mon Feb 04 1991 ------------------------------- Not 10% of the early colonial arrivals are recorded with ship and date of arrival. Col. Chas. Banks did a monumental job on both sides of the Atlantic preparing his "Planters of the Commonwealth" and "The Winthrop Fleet" series - but knew he was just gathering up bits and pieces. In England, potential colonists were required to register for the trip, but most of those records disappeared over the years. Colonial diarists (like Gov. Winthrop himself) can be thanked for much data that remains, but they did not separate who came on what ship on what date. Burton Spear of Toledo OH has spent years, writing now over 13 volumes, trying to assemble from other sources, the identity of those who were aboard just ONE ship - the "Mary & John" in 1630. . One of my ancestors was one of those ship captains - Capt. John CUTTING made 13 known trans-Atlantic crossings bringing colonists over and back - but little remains of any passenger lists. One of the ships he captained in 1629 was called "Mayflower" but it was *not* the same ship that brought the Pilgrims in 1620 ! The record-keeping systems didn't always improve, either! I had an ancestor arrive 250 years later in July 13, 1863 in New York City (he wrote it many times in his life). 3 steamships arrived in NY Harbor that day, with passenger lists retained on microfilm at the National Archives. I have scoured each passenger list for the whole WEEK before and after July 13, 1863 .... his name simply is NOT there. He was a 20 year old Yorkshire lad, and I will just never know which ship. I find his name on a return visit in 1888... period. . Blodgette & Jewett's first reference to Wm. STICKNEY is that he is recorded admitted to the First Church of Boston "6: 11 mo. 1638". Between 1630 and 1640, an estimated 10,100 English persons arrived in the colonies. We know specific arrival data on perhaps 1,000. On my database, I just use things like "circa" or "by" with a date, based on whatever printed sources DO remain to place a family in a location on a date. . Noted genealogist Robert Charles Anderson is on a grant from NEHGS right now compiling a new "Great Migration" study from ALL existing sources - using every scrap of information to gather together data. The study should be finished and published in about 2 more years. . There's a great new book out called "Coming Over: Migration and Communication between England and New England in the 17th Century" by David Cressy, Cambridge Univ. Press (1987) - paperback. This gives a very readable account of the whole colonial emigration process: reasons, costs, controls, etc. I heartily recommend it to get the FLAVOR of what your ancestors experienced. . But, I suggest you will just have to accept that we will never know PRECISELY which ship brought WHOM on what DATE. ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ This file is from The Source of Magic, Ridgefield CT ³ ³ 203-431-4687, source for genealogy, radio, & Windows ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ