NASH as well as BAKER, SMITH, HART, TALMADGE, COOKE by James Davis 10 Feb 1990 ------------------------------------------------ NASH: Thomas ( ? -1658) m. Margery BAKER (1600-1656) Mary John well documented line of New Haven +Joseph Sarah m. Robert Talmadge Timothy well documented line of Hadley Joseph (1625-1678) m1. Mary _______ ( ? -1654) +John 1650 (d. young?) Hannah 1651 Sarah m. Noah Cooke daugher -1654 ..................(m2. Margaret ___ ( ? -1693/4)) (widow of Arthur Smith) (she m3. Stephen HART) daughter (does she belong here or above?) Joseph by will gave to wife and dau. and if no issue by dau. to brother John of New Haven. Son John got no land in will or earlier as would usually be expected, so Jacobus is not sure of the Joseph-John connection. Jacobus does say that an excellent Nash Genealogy does make this connection. Places lived: Boston, Mass. Thomas 1637- came on Hector Guilford, Conn. Thomas 1639 didn't go there New Haven, Conn. Thomas 1639, 1643, 1658 New Haven, Conn. Joseph -1657 freeman Hartford, Conn. Joseph 1658 freeman of Conn. Branford, Conn. John 1677- m. Fairfield, Conn. John 1701,1710 lived Please send me citations (author, title, pub.year, total pages) for all known references to this family. Would like group sheets based on these citations. Would especially like copies of pages from books. James R. Davis, 6708 Austin Way, Sacramento, CA 95823 (916)-393-9186 ------------------------------------------------ NASH: John (1650-1683) m.1677 Elizabeth HITCHCOCK (widow of Anthony HOWD) Joseph 1678-1702 single +Thomas 1679/80-1748 m. Sarah ____ Elizabeth 1681 m. Stephen Foote Thomas (1679-1748) m. Sarah _______ (1676/7-1760) (widow of Capt. _____ THOMAS) (possibly this is Sarah Whelpley but Jacobus is not confindent of that) Joseph ?1706, bapt.1712/3, d. young Thomas 1708-1769 m. Rebecca Hull +Sarah 1712 m.1732 John Griffin of Redding Jonathan 1714-1757 m. Sarah Andrews (she m2. Nathan Godfrey) Eliz. 1717-1740 m.1735 John Burr Sarah (1712- / ) m.ca.1732 John GRIFFIN ( ? - ? ) Places lived: Branford, Conn. John 1677- m. Branford, Conn. Thomas2 1679- b. Fairfield, Conn. John 1701,1710 lived Fairfield, Conn. Thomas2 lived Fairfield, Conn. Sarah 1712- b. Redding, Conn. Thomas -1732 land to J.Griffin Westport, Conn. Thomas2 -1748 d. Is John's father Joseph of New Haven? Please cite your reference. Please send me citations (author, title, pub.year, total pages) for all known references to this family. Would like group sheets based on these citations. Would especially like copies of pages from books. James R. Davis, 6708 Austin Way, Sacramento, CA 95823 (916)-393-9186 123/949 7 Sep 90 06:02:51 From: James Davis To: Dorothy Roberts Subj: Thomas & Margery (Baker) NASH ------------------------------------------------ Dorothy, thanks for sending me copies of the NASH family (pages 24,25,26, 32,33, 40,41,42, 64,65). What is the title, publ.date, and author of this book? Here is what noted genealogist Donald L. Jacobus had to say about 1930 in "Families of Old Fairfield", CT about the parents of John NASH b.1650 New Haven: "Blacksmith, of Branford; his parentage is a problem. Thomas Nash, blacksmith, of New Haven, had three sons, John, Joseph, and Timothy. Of these, the families of Maj. John of New Haven and of Timothy of Hadley are well established by records. Corp. Joseph, by his first wife Mary, had a son John, b. at New Haven, 12 July 1650; he rem. to Hartford, m. (2) Margaret, widow of Arthur Smith, by whom he had an only dau., and his will, 1678, gives his estate to his wife and dau., specifying that if his dau. die without issue, his eldest bro. Capt. John of New Haven should inherit his lands. These are singular provisions for a man to make if he had a son living; yet the excellent "Nash Genealogy" advances strong reasons for accepting John of Branford as the son of Joseph born in 1650, supposing him to have received his full portion during his father's lifetime. A son usually received his portion in realty, and no records have been found to show that John ever received anything from Jospeh. In view of the terms of Joseph's will, we prefer to leave John's connection unsolved until stonger evidence is adduced." Jacobus in his 1927 "Families of Ancient New Haven", CT (Vol.IV) listed the NASH family and listed "John b.12 July 1650 NHV, bp 14 July 1650 NHC1, d. young" (as son of Joseph). He then seperately listed "John, blacksmith, of Bd 1651, d 1683; m 22 Aug 1677 BdV--Elizabeth Hitchcock, wid. Anthony Howd." Has any new data since 1930 been uncovered to give credence either to the 1853 conclusion about the Joseph-John connection or the 1930 question as to this connection? How are you going to handle this in your update? I would appreciate copies of the chapter on Thomas Nash ( -1658) (father of Sergeant Joseph Nash) and anything on his wife Margery BAKER. I'll be glad to pay the copying and mail costs. If you don't have copies of the two sources of information I cited I can send them to you. To anyone reading over our shoulders I'd like to find any records, especially land records relating to a John NASH (1650-1683). James R. Davis, 6708 Austin Way, Sacramento, CA 95823 (916)-393-9186 --------------------------------- Date: Tue Dec 11 1990 15:31:18 From: Dorothy Roberts To: All Subj: NASH/CT around 1850 --------------------------------- Would like to hear from descendants of the following NASHes who were in CT around 1850, or who were born in CT sometime before 1850: Albert Cone NASH, b. 10 Dec 1825, son of Capt. Burr NASH, m. 2 Mar 1852 Henrietta B. Tucker of New Haven, and in 1852 was an architect in Bridgeport, CT. Albert Henry NASH, b. 25 Sep 1843, son of Edmund Augustus of Middletown or New Britain, Ct. Listed in 1900 CT census with wife Lydia, b. NY Sep 1835. Andrew E. NASH, b. 29 Jan 1837, son of Dr. David H. NASH of Bridgeport, CT. Charles NASH, b. 6 Feb 1830 Westport, CT, son of Joseph NASH, Jr. Charles Edmund NASH, b. 22 June 1849 in Middletown or New Britain, CT, son of Edmund A. NASH. Daniel NASH, b. 10 July 1824 possibly in Fairfield, CT, son of Joseph. David NASH, b. 10 Aug 1834 in Westport, CT, son of Burr Sturgis NASH. Wife, Betsy A. b. March 1840, son David L., born July 1883. In addition to the ones named above, I want to hear from desc of any others in CT at that time. My address is 2733 Runningbrook Lane, Dallas, TX 75228. Date: Mon Oct 21 1991 23:20:57 From: Rodger Jordan To: Ed Ash Subj: Re: NASH Attr: genealogy ------------------------------- I have been reading with interest messages from you and James Davis. I am also a descendant of Thomas NASH & Margery Baker. I only found this out about 3 weeks ago thru a 4th cousin that I have been corresponding with. Here is my line: John BAKER m: Mary MADISTARD 1.Nicholas BAKER m: Mary HODGETS 2.Margery BAKER m: Thomas NASH 3.Mary NASH m: Roger ALLING 4.Samuel ALLING m: Elizabeth WINSTON 5.James ALLING m: Abigail PECK 6.Mehitabel ALLING m: Ebenezer ATWATER 7.Jesse ATWATER m: Rachel BLAKELY 8.Jesse ATWATER m: Lucretia MARTIN 9.Olive ATWATER m: Benjamin FULLER 10.Emeline FULLER m: Charles DAVIS 11.Ida DAVIS m: George W COFFIN 12.Charles D COFFIN m: Hulda PREGANT 13.Ida COFFIN m: Lawrence JORDAN ME --------------- 14.Rodger JORDAN I too would be interested in anything that you have and I will return anything that you may want. Do either of you have anything prior to Thomas NASH or John BAKER or their wives? Will be glad to reimburse you for any costs you may incur. I think between Ed ASH and James DAVIS, you are 8th cousins-once removed. Ed is my 9th cousin-once removed & James is my 8th cousin- once removed. So howdy cousins. I wonder how many cousins one may have? Will be waiting to hear from you. Rodger Jordan 1216 W State St Avon Park, FL 33825 --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: ANCESTRY TBBS * With a view to the past * 813-471-0552 (1:18/230) Date: Tue Oct 29 1991 05:02:27 From: James Davis To: Ed Ash Subj: NASH, BAKER Attr: genealogy ------------------------------- Ed, I sent out messages to you on 10/6 and 10/13 and did get your message of 10/8 and letter of 10/18 with the descendancy chart from Thomas Nash to you (thank you). I was hoping you had actually seen the references you mentioned and had other pages from them that I could get from you. I did see your messages to Rodger Jordan on 10/23. Did you see the following which I sent on 10/13? Ed, I am interested in getting copies of pages from your references: > "The NASH Family", by Sylvester NASH and > "History of Hadley", Sylvester Judd. > "NASH Notations". on my lines as follows: 1710? 1679 1650 1625 1600? --John GRIFFIN -Sarah--Thomas--John--Joseph--Thomas NASH | | | -Margery--Nicholas--John BAKER | | | | -Mary MADISTARD | | | -Mary HODGETS | | -Mary | -Elizabeth HITCHCOCK -Sarah WHELPLEY I'm willing to send copies of pages from the following on your lines: NASH References County Genealogies & Pedigrees of the Hertfordshire Families, date?(bef.1889), William Berry, pp.?. Shows: (Need copies) John BAKER Nicholas Baker m. Mary Hodgetts Margery Baker m. Thomas Nash Mary NASH John Sarah Joseph Timothy History of Fairfield, Fairfield Co., Conn., 1889, Eliz.H.Schenck,pp.423. Nash Family p. 396-398 (Have copies) Thomas Nash possibly from Lancashire, Engl. Wife died within 2 years after Thomas Nash. >1658 -<1660? Families of Ancient New Haven, 1927, Donald L. Jacobus, pp. ? Vol. IV: Thomas-Joseph-John p. 1312 (Have copies) Families of Old Fairfield, ca.1930, Donald L. Jacobus, pp.? Vol.I: Thomas-Joseph-John p.430, Thomas p.430/1 (Have copies) (Some question to connections here) ______ Smith p.568/9 (No Smith m. Marg.) (Have copies) If you know of other references please send them to me. Would like group sheets based on your citations. Would especially like copies of pages from the books. James R. Davis, 6708 Austin Way, Sacramento, CA 95823 (916)-393-9186 --- Opus-CBCS 1.14 * Origin: Dynasty PoBox 12, Elk Grove,CA 95759 916-686-6946 (1:203/10.0) Date: Thu Jul 30 1992 22:34:01 From: Janet Milam To: Ed Ash Subj: Nash;Kidwell Attr: GENEALOGY ------------------------------- EA>grandfather was Samuel NASH, B. 1864, Hadley, Hampshire Co., MA. He EA>descends from Thomas NASH, b. 1589, Worcester, England. Thomas settled in Ed, From what James DAVIS on this board says, I think we are probably cousins some way. I haven't really found the connection yet, I think through the BURR/SHEPHERD line which is on my father's side. My main NASH line is through my mother and they started out in NC in late 1700s early 1800s. They moved then to IN and on to MO. I do, however, have a copy of THE NASH FAMILY; OR RECORDS OF THE DESCENDANTS OF THOMAS NASH OF NEWHAVEN, CONNECTICUT. This starts with Thomas NASH and wife Margery BAKER. If this is your line, I'll be happy to make copies of any pages you need. One of these days, I'm going to sit down and figure out how Dad's line fits in with this group. Let me know if I can help. Janet Sue MILAM 109 W. Ollie Floydada, TX 79235 * SLMR 2.1a * NASH;GRAY;PISTOLE;LONG;KETTERING --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Pride of the Plains (806)983-3341 TX 9600 (1:3804/11) Date: Fri Jul 31 1992 21:04:04 From: Marlyn Lewis To: Ed Ash Subj: Nash family connection Attr: GENEALOGY ------------------------------- EA> In reading your mail, I see that you are researching the NASH line. My EA> grandfather was Samuel NASH, B. 1864, Hadley, Hampshire Co., MA. He EA> descends from Thomas NASH, b. 1589, Worcester, England. Thomas settled EA> in EA> New Haven, CT. I have a lot of information on this line. Let me know EA> if EA> there is any connection and if we are cousins. I am also using PAF. May I butt in?? I have just discovered that I'm probably a part of that Nash family from Hadley/Hadfield, MA. I'm still working the connection with the help of a friend in Salt Lake City and Marianne Montgomery in Tacoma. To give you the short version: Submit Scott married Moses Howe in 1773 (he was born in 1750). David Scott married Esther Belding in 1739 and they stopped having children in 1751 (Esther probably died then) and I think that he remarried to Submit NASH, daughter of Thomas Nash and Martha Smith. This Submit Nash was born in 1732. There is a cemetery record in Whately, MA which states: Center Cemetery, Whately, MA: David Scott b. 1717 (that's the only David Scott born in 1717, so he has to be the one above), died 7 Apr 1812 at age 95. Submit Scott, consort of David, d. 4 July 1809, age 77. That would make her born in 1732. The only Submit anyone born in 1732 is Submit Nash. However, the History of Hadley says that Submit Nash died unmarried. Well, that book has been wrong before on issues like this. My researcher in Salt Lake is checking on David Scott's will and looking to find Submit (Nash) Scott's will to see if they had a daughter, also named Submit who would have been mentioned then as Submit HOWE. So, what we have is circumstantial so far, but very likely. As to Thomas Nash, I have him born in 1693 at Hatfield, died 1773 age 80 same place. He married in 1727 to Martha Smith. This Thomas Nash was the son of another Thomas Nash who married in 1685 to Hannah Coleman. He died in 1728 and she died in 1722. Thomas was son of Timothy Nash and Rebecca Stone and Timothy was son of Thomas Nash and Margery Baker. I can fill in some of the generations for the wives, but I have nothing on the families. I'd be happy to share what I do have. Marlyn --- PPoint 1.31 * Origin: A Professional Point System (1:105/319.99) Date: Thu Aug 20 1992 18:24:17 From: Bill Allen To: LaVaughn Nash Subj: re: Nash Attr: GENEALOGY ------------------------------- LaVaughn, saw your message to Ed Ash. Do you have a Samuel Nash b. circa 1623, d. after 1682 in Duxbury, MA, whose daughter, Esther, married George SAMPSON about 1678? She was born circa 1656 and died 27 May 1727 at Plymton, MA. Appreciate any help you might be able to give. Thanks, Bill --- ConfMail V3.2 * Origin: Buzzard Bulletin Board, Hinckley OH (216)273-1340 (1:157/511)